littleRedPanda
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Feb 23rd
Zoo Wuppertal Bili the Bonobo
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littleRedPanda
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Positive reports from the zoo
Gute Nachrichten von den Bonobos
I'd post the translation, but I'm totally confused by the copyright situation now, having ahd a photo deletd from the gallery, but allowed to stay in a thread and previous posts deleted for copy/pasting
Gute Nachrichten von den Bonobos
I'd post the translation, but I'm totally confused by the copyright situation now, having ahd a photo deletd from the gallery, but allowed to stay in a thread and previous posts deleted for copy/pasting
FunkyGibbon
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Positive reports from the zoo
Gute Nachrichten von den Bonobos
I'd post the translation, but I'm totally confused by the copyright situation now, having ahd a photo deletd from the gallery, but allowed to stay in a thread and previous posts deleted for copy/pasting
A synopsis translation is considered good form
(I appreciate this is an area where communication may not have been fantastic).
littleRedPanda
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In summary, the article says:
Bili's mixing with various selections of the group is going well, with maybe 3 others at a time separated with him. The article feature's videos of him with 55 year old Mato, his constant ally, as well a mother and daughter called Muhdeblu and 5 year old Akeena. The youngster on her own does play with Bili, but unlike before, he can not only tolerate her, but manage to say "enough, ya little brat!" without being ganged up on. Grooming including Bili has also been observed, as well as hanky-panky with Muhdeblu.
The goal is still to integrate him into the whole group, rather than have two and the possibility of later aggression is still there. The zoo are still working with outside agencies and experts to achieve a manageable group for Bili to blossom within.
To summarise what WAMS and GAP have said about these positive signs:
Actually, WAMS posted 2 tiny clips to highlight how busy their car park has been in line with other zoos expressing how busy they've been.
Bili's mixing with various selections of the group is going well, with maybe 3 others at a time separated with him. The article feature's videos of him with 55 year old Mato, his constant ally, as well a mother and daughter called Muhdeblu and 5 year old Akeena. The youngster on her own does play with Bili, but unlike before, he can not only tolerate her, but manage to say "enough, ya little brat!" without being ganged up on. Grooming including Bili has also been observed, as well as hanky-panky with Muhdeblu.
The goal is still to integrate him into the whole group, rather than have two and the possibility of later aggression is still there. The zoo are still working with outside agencies and experts to achieve a manageable group for Bili to blossom within.
To summarise what WAMS and GAP have said about these positive signs:
Actually, WAMS posted 2 tiny clips to highlight how busy their car park has been in line with other zoos expressing how busy they've been.
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littleRedPanda
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From today
Rough translation from German:
Bili now with Birogu and Kichele. Bili was not afraid but very careful and carrying wood wool. He has watched very much and has only paid attention to the distance. It changed after a while and he came closer or followed them. Later, Bili was with Kichele on the top right and you came pretty close for a long time (groomen, etc.)
Another one posted today, but from two sessions
Rough translation from German:
Bili now with Birogu and Kichele. Bili was not afraid but very careful and carrying wood wool. He has watched very much and has only paid attention to the distance. It changed after a while and he came closer or followed them. Later, Bili was with Kichele on the top right and you came pretty close for a long time (groomen, etc.)
Another one posted today, but from two sessions
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Take away some of the group members and the united 'power' they present is removed. So Bili is no longer the 'victim' and more able to establish positive relationships. They may have to do this a long time though so he establishes a permanent niche for himself, before re-uniting them all, or it still might not work again and they would need to remove some individuals permanently if they want to keep him.
At the best of times integration of new bonobo is a time-consuming process and particularly so the males given the social structure and hierarchy in a bonobo troupe.
littleRedPanda
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My friend has told me now that Another male,Birungo, has suffered some injuries recently, leading to WAMS claiming that Bili and Mato should be sent with him to Wales for their safety.
They recently rescued other monkeys from Spain ….. how many animals are they ignoring in order to complete these more romantic causes? Are ther really no other less exotic animals in 'poor' conditions closer to Swansea?
They recently rescued other monkeys from Spain ….. how many animals are they ignoring in order to complete these more romantic causes? Are ther really no other less exotic animals in 'poor' conditions closer to Swansea?
littleRedPanda
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"On the recommendation of the European Conservation Breeding Program (EEP), the zoo has now decided to send Eja to another zoo in good time so that the bonobo males have the chance to finally integrate properly."
Affen: Angriffe auf Bonobo Birogu im Wuppertaler Zoo
Affen: Angriffe auf Bonobo Birogu im Wuppertaler Zoo
I don’t believe LittleRedPanda was saying that. I think they were saying that there are many primates that ‘rescue’ resources would be better utilised for.