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tigris115

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So I noticed that for many forest living animals such as tigers, Asian elephants, and gorillas, they are exposed to the sun in their exhibits. I'm sure they're fine with it but I think there's a way to make an exhibit look like it has a canopy without having trees that will be killed within a fortnight.

My idea is to simply have a reinforced mesh over the exhibit and have vines or ivy grow on it. That way, you get the illusion of animals being under a jungle canopy.
 
More or less but think like the utilitrees if they were less obvious and held up the mesh

I know what you're aiming for but with gorillas (one of your examples) you'd have to make sure that the vines/plants are harmless to the apes, just in case they decide to have a taste. :)
 
I think that for climbing animals, I should hotwire the uppermost meter or 2 of the tree. Not just because of that but also you don't want them breaking anything, ruining the plants, or escaping
 
Well I think that if you did it right it would be pretty expensive. Right being the support of the mesh being artificial tree(s).
Other wise I think if you tried to half it, it might look cheesy. Kinda thing I guess you would need to have illustrated before you build it. It would provide shade and an increased cooling via transpiration. It might be difficult to train the vines or ivy, but I don't think that would be prohibitive.
 
Another thought; if said enclosure was covered by a canopy, along with being worn down naturally by the animals anything grow on the ground? I'm not knowledgeable on horticulture but it seems counter-productive to try and simulate a canopy whilst trying to have plants on the ground?

One for @Zooplantman maybe?
 
Do any zoos use camouflage mesh to provide shade over the enclosure? I imagine it wouldn't be suitable for primates but it might work for some species
 
More or less but think like the utilitrees if they were less obvious and held up the mesh
If for primates then is it ok in your exhibit that they climb these things? If not, how do you keep them from climbing them. And IF you could keep them from climbing the structures then why not simply use live trees (and protect them)?
 
So I noticed that for many forest living animals such as tigers, Asian elephants, and gorillas, they are exposed to the sun in their exhibits. I'm sure they're fine with it but I think there's a way to make an exhibit look like it has a canopy without having trees that will be killed within a fortnight.

My idea is to simply have a reinforced mesh over the exhibit and have vines or ivy grow on it. That way, you get the illusion of animals being under a jungle canopy.

IMO zoo exhibits do not, in general, really replicate the dense forests where these animals live for several reasons:
1. It is too hard to find a tiger in the dense understory;
2. In temperate zone zoos a dense tree canopy usually results in a bare ground layer. So.... dirt floor;
3. These animals can be very destructive of groundcovers and shrubs, especially in moderate-size exhibits. So again, dirt floor;
4. Asian elephants can be very hard on trees and on the root systems of trees so planting lots of live trees in an Asian elephant exhibit will prove to be a waste in a year or two.


So back to your idea:
If you create a large, high unclimbable structure which will simply provide shade
1. that is a large expense just to provide some shade (especially over an entire elephant enclosure);
2. Animals are more easily spotted and photographed in brighter light;
3. When we see these animals in the wild it is not the light level that we first notice but rather the huge trees and lushness of the plantlife. Placing an awning over elephants would just feel like an awning over elephants.
4. There are some excellent exhibits that suggest animals-in-the-forest. The gorilla enclosure at Disney Animal Kingdom comes to mind.
5. Any vines grown over the mesh will be destroyed by the elephants, primates or any other folivore
6. Your idea brings to mind this Islands - Rotation Exhibit - ZooChat
 
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Another thought; if said enclosure was covered by a canopy, along with being worn down naturally by the animals anything grow on the ground? I'm not knowledgeable on horticulture but it seems counter-productive to try and simulate a canopy whilst trying to have plants on the ground?

Good observation. More shade will result in fewer choices for ground plants and - depending on locale and other factors - less vigorous plant growth. In order to keep a zoo exhibit for these animals lush one must have vigorous plant growth.
 
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