While Captain America suddenly got a body that could physically withstand and go toe to toe with the very same Thanos who beat up an enraged Hulk? Thor might be out of shape, but he still is the God of Thunder - or rather, the Co-God of Thunder, next to Captain America. Sorry, but that's just lazy writing.
Umm... Cap got his ass handed to him by Thanos. It wasn't until Cap had Molijnir that he was able to go toe to toe with Thanos for a bit, and even then he got his ass handed to him again. It's not lazy writing, it's reality. It doesn't matter how strong you once were, if you sit on your couch playing videogames, eating pizza, and drinking all day every day for five years you're going to be off your game in your very first fight back. Meanwhile, Cap has done nothing but train and fight every day since he woke up out of the ice. And yeah, Thor still is the God of Thunder, that's why he's able to do as well as he did (which was a lot better than Cap did without Molijnir).
Both Sam and Bucky got the shield in the comics, despite Bucky having the same kind of history and psychological baggage.
Bucky Barnes first appeared in the comics in 1941 and has had a very long and complicated history since then, as have most comic characters. But this ain't the comics. To say, "it made sense in the comics so it makes sense in the movies" is to completely ignore all the context surrounding the completely different stories told in both mediums. Again, Bucky has been a villain more than he's been a hero in the MCU (which is
not the case in the comics), most of the other remaining Avengers dislike him (and that's putting it mildly in some cases), he's a serious liability, and since there's a lot more transparency in the MCU than in the comics, the public knows him as the Winter Soldier and know most of the things he's done. It makes absolutely
ZERO sense for Bucky to be given the mantle over someone well known and well liked amongst the Avengers and the public, and who's never assassinated any Presidents. I still don't understand why you're ok with Sam getting the shield in the comics, but when it's in the movies it's suddenly an agenda.
I would agree that Captain Marvel And Thor are at about the same power level, but there’s a difference between them; Thor earnshis power while Captain Marvel does not. Is Thor strong at the beginning of his first movie? Yes, but he isn’t nearly as powerful as he is by the end of Infinity War (he can barely defeat that Metal Giant thing for goodness sake). It takes Thor 3 full movies, plus 2 Avengers movies, plus a solid half of Infinity War to get to that insane power level, but Captain Marvel on the other hand? Half a movie, and it would’ve been sooner if she’d known how powerful she is. And yes she trained with her powers for 6 years, but they were severely limited by the Kree, so all her training doesn’t really help her, it’s not as if they told her how to fly to spaceships, and that’s not the kind of thing one just learns right away. It’s like the movie said “yep she’s the most powerful being in the universe, just accept it, she doesn’t need to learn how to harness or fully utilize her powers, she’s a natural!
Thor doesn't earn his powers, he was born with them. That's the actual definition of "[h]e's a natural!" And Thor's power level stays about the same throughout all of his movies until IW, when he gets Stormbreaker and is suddenly 10x more powerful. Yes he grows as a character and his personality changes, but apart from in Ragnarok when he needs to learn that he doesn't need his hammer to use his powers, we never see him expanding his powers. As for the Destroyer, if by "can barely defeat" you mean,
losing when he's mortal but then completely decimates it in a lightning tornado he created the moment he gets his powers back, then yes. Also you can't say she's a natural or doesn't need to learn how to harness her powers when you admit that she's had six full years of training. Yes she has an inhibitor on, but once she takes it off her abilities are the same, just pack more of a punch. As for Endgame, it's literally been 28 years since the events of her solo film. I agree they should be showing us this training, but she hasn't even been in the MCU for six months, give her time to have three full movies plus 2.5 Avengers films and we'll see what they do with her. If they expand upon and encourage this "I'm better than you" attitude moving forward and never show her to have much struggle or learn anything over the films then I'm likely to change my position. For now, though, I think she's been used very well.
Im surprised you found the laboratory fight scene easy to follow it was jerkily-cut and way too dark imo. Regarding the clamps, I found it hilarious how she broke out of the clamps that stopped her powers by... using her powers really hard. Funniest part of a terribly dull movie. And I wouldn’t say she fought Ronan’s ships, it was more like she flew through them in 2 seconds and then he retreated. And I’m fine with the Jude Law thing at the end, ifthere’s another big action fight, because there really wasn’t one at the end of the movie. I get what the director was going for, but it makes for a boring ending without a big battle.
She used her powers to break out but she had to push them really hard to do so and only managed in a moment of extreme duress (ie knocked down and surrounded on all sides). Kind of reminds me of Thor getting his lightning back in Ragnarok but only when he's on the edge of being beaten by the Hulk. I agree the third act could have had a bit more action, but there was still plenty to be had between everyone fighting to escape the ship and CM destroying Ronan's ships. If you wanted a bigger action setpiece that's fine, but that's your preference.
I don’t really have a problem with the Kree empire as a villain, I actually think that could make for an interesting movie, but my main problem with the villains in Captain Marvel is that they don’t stand a chance against Captain Marvel. Ronan is afraid of her, Jude Law is obviously not strong enough, and neither are the rest of his team. Say what you want about the other MCU villains (even the terrible ones like Malekith), but at least they stood a chance against the hero. Look at Thor in Thor:Ragnarok, he’s obviously extremely powerful, but so is Hella, and while Thor obviously wins, he takes a beating and even loses an eye. Did Captain Marvel even break a sweat beating the bad guys? In every other MCU movie, the fight with the villain used all the heroes energy, and I didn’t see that in Captain Marvel. Weak villains are boring, and Captain Marvel has the weakest villains in the MCU (and I didn’t like Thanos in GOTG by the way)
The villains in CM don't stand a chance against her only after she removes the inhibitor, which is well into the third act of the movie. She gets her ass handed to her repeatedly throughout the movie before then. And as I said before, she's never able to actually defeat Jude Law's character in hand to hand combat because he's so much better than her at it. "Weak villains are boring" that's just... a bad way to look at storytelling. Some of the best villains in history, including in the MCU, had more brains than brawn. Loki is a prime excellent example of this, as is HYDRA.
Here's a list of MCU villains weaker than the villains in Captain Marvel: Zemo, Zola, Whiplash, Alexander Pierce, the Mandarin (both of them), Justin Hammer, The Vulture, Crossbones, Batroc the Leaper, Agent Sitwell, The Collector, The Grandmaster, Taserface, Ayesha-- I could go on but you get the point. None of these characters are stronger than Yon-Rogg or Ronan.
You not liking Thanos in GotG is fine, but my point was that saying Ronan is a bad villain based on his mere minutes of screentime in CM when he's clearly planned for future movies is akin to saying overall Thanos is a bad villain just because he wasn't used much in GotG.
Glad we agree on this, it was a terrible decision.
Yep, I genuinely thought they were going for a running gag about how he kept injuring his eye but not losing it yet until I realized the movie was over. I get where TLD's coming from, but I still don't like it.
That's the very same issue that has been animadverted in regard to the character of Rey in the new SW movies as making her a "Mary Sue".
Comparing CM to Rey is ridiculous. Rey discovers brand new abilities five times a movie and is immediately perfect at virtually any task she tries for the first time. She also receives no training but is more skilled than everyone at everything. CM repeatedly fails throughout her movie, from falling for the Skrulls' trap, to losing them on Earth, to even struggling to pass her training to become a fighter pilot in her flashbacks. She also has the same powerset in both her movie and in IW. Once the inhibitor is removed she's more powerful, but her powers remain the same. And again, SIX YEARS is a long time to learn how to use your powers. 34 years is even longer. She doesn't even save the day in Endgame, that's still up to Iron Man. And remember guys, Thanos punches her out cold and she's out of the fight for the entire rest of the movie. That's never something we've see with Rey, who's randomly more powerful than even Luke Skywalker despite using the force a grand total of maybe four times up to that point despite not knowing those abilities are possible.
~Thylo
