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The zoo continues to promote the new Master Plan which is not animal exhibit -centric
Minnesota Zoo planning new visitor experiences: camping, country’s longest elevated trail loop

I see that @ANyhuis was quoted in the article, but as a zoo nerd I find the proposed future development of the Minnesota Zoo nothing but a massive disappointment. There have been complaints over the years at the lack of elephants, lions, great apes, etc., and adding non-animal attractions doesn't entice me to visit again in the future. It's clearly a very good zoo, but there seems to be no desire to take that next step towards greatness, and adding camping opportunities and adventure ropes courses won't bring in visitors like another Russia's Grizzly Coast-type exhibit complex did back in 2008.
 
I see that @ANyhuis was quoted in the article, but as a zoo nerd I find the proposed future development of the Minnesota Zoo nothing but a massive disappointment. There have been complaints over the years at the lack of elephants, lions, great apes, etc., and adding non-animal attractions doesn't entice me to visit again in the future. It's clearly a very good zoo, but there seems to be no desire to take that next step towards greatness, and adding camping opportunities and adventure ropes courses won't bring in visitors like another Russia's Grizzly Coast-type exhibit complex did back in 2008.
I'm disappointed, but I think a ropes course would be better additions to the zoo than elephants, lions, great apes, or the like. Minnesota Zoo is currently focused on cold climate animals and it should be kept that way, it makes it unique. If people want to see a boring ABC zoo they can go over to Como Park.
 
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I'm disappointed, but I think a ropes course would be better additions to the zoo than elephants, lions, great apes, or the like. Minnesota Zoo is currently focused on cold climate animals and it should be kept that way, it makes it unique. If people want to see a boring ABC zoo they can go over to Como Park.
Lesser kudu, Tufted puffin, and a number of tanage species?
 
Lesser kudu, Tufted puffin, and a number of tanager species?
More like gorillas, polar bears, giraffe, ostrich, zebra, big cats, seals/sea lions. There may be overlaps (African penguins, sloths and maybe a couple primate species), but Como's got a smaller campus with bigger draws. Hence the "attraction" (attraction in terms of verb and noun), with the kudu/tanager/tufted puffins for us zoo enthusiasts.
 
Golden-headed manakin gone?
I'm not completely sure but I suspect so. My last visit was a couple years ago but at that time they really didn't have a bird collection anymore. :p I saw only three passerines in the entire zoo: Blue-Gray Tanager, Saffron Finch, and some sort of cotinga that I only got a two second look at.
 
Alright, this thread has gotten derailed quite a bit from the original post that sparked the conversation. Yes, Como is not a major zoo and offers a very limited selection of animals that mostly focuses on the ABCs. I've heard it brought up repeatedly and pretty much anytime Como is mentioned on this site. My overall response is a big fat "WHO CARES." It clearly has worked for them as they are managing to open their third $10+ million dollar exhibit (this one at $20 million) since 2010 this summer while charging no admission. On top of this you can add on the small, species lacking Tropical Encounters at $2.1 million. On the flip side of this, Minnesota really hasn't done much since opening Russia's Grizzly Coast in 2009. The only other notable thing was the renovation to the aquarium, which didn't change much from the visitor perspective other than swapping out the dolphins for the monk seals. Clearly, the ABC animals are working for Como. Yes, their are obvious downsides, such as the lack of species that entice zoo nerds on this website to visit. However, as mentioned repeatedly on this site, we make up a very small percentage of the total zoo going population. Unfortunately, zoos aren't targeting us with their plans and that isn't likely to change. Como is on a very limited footprint and what you see is what you get. I think it is unfair to call it boring (as I don't know if I have ever really thought that about any zoo I have been too), but I can definitely see where it leaves the visitor wanting more and everyone has their own opinion. If you want more information on why Como does so well compared to Minnesota, I refer you to my previous posts a page or two back, where most of this has already been discussed. I will bring up a few more I didn't really discuss their here though.

Now to get back to the article this was initially about and the zoo. I, like others have already said, also find the plan disappointing and lack luster in scope. I do truly believe the zoo needs something exciting once again and this really isn't it, but I can see where the zoo is going. The zoo is trying to become self-sustaining as David Frawley, the zoo's director, states in the article because "I think Minnesotans and the state expect us to be a smart business model." This has become very relevant, like at many other zoos of late, especially since the Great Recession in 2008/2009. Due to the zoo being owned by the state, unlike all but one other zoo in the country, it has one very different and significant barrier to getting government funding than a city zoo. This is the fact that the zoo is supposed to the "Minnesota's zoo", and it does serve about 3.5 million (within an hour or so drive) of the states 5.6 million people by being in the Twin Cities area, but it isn't exactly easy access for the rest of the state, especially the northern part. For this reason, many state law makers are very hesitant to approve funding for the zoo as it isn't very accessible for many of their constituents. By comparison, a city zoo gets funding from the city it is in which makes it easier to justify the expenses to its tax payers as they are the ones that it is most likely to benefit. Yes, obviously city zoos still struggle. On top of that, the zoo lost a lot of trust and good will it had going with the state, and the population, with that aquarium renovation. When the zoo asked for the funding from the state, they told the state that they were going to keep the dolphins and bring them back. Low and behold, after the state approved the funding, they announced that the dolphins would not return (it wasn't quite that quick, but that is eventually what it boiled down too). Although, I believe this was absolutely the right decision, it is a lot harder to explain that to the general public. Couple this with what I said in my previous post that a good amount of people prefer Como specifically because it has the ABC animals the general public wants to see and it makes it very hard for the zoo to convince the state to give them funding. State law makers see what Como is able to do with free admission and wonder why Minnesota can't do the same with what is seen as a steep admission cost (seen this way simply because Como is free).

Due to all of that, I think it is a smart move for the zoo to at least strive to be more self-sufficient. Do I think this will get the zoo fully there? No, but it is a start. Some of it doesn't really make sense to me though. Why spend $22 million to renovate the old monorail into this Treetops Trail? I think it is a good use for this structure, but the fact that it covers largely the same exhibits as the Northern Trail (and misses others on it), along with a decent amount of non-exhibit area it seems like a possible renovation that will not have the true payoff they anticipate and many guests won't utilize. Unless they do plan to add some exhibits, I'm not sure how much it would be used. The only benefit I foresee currently is that it puts you over the lake in the Musk Ox enclosure and may give you a better view of them. Lets just say I'm skeptical about. I think the camping, along with the other things mentioned, could be quite a good idea and it sounds a little more unobtrusive (at least in the article) than at some other zoos.

I think the zoo does need to add some ABC animals unfortunately. In my mind they don't need to be the same ones that are held at Como, and they shouldn't be for that matter. However, I think the zoo does need to do more to get visitors in the door in terms of animals and Como proves that those animals work to do it (along with being free). Your average zoo visitor wants to see those animals and though they may not be the most exciting animals to see for all of us I do still enjoy them. I think that is a necessary step to making the zoo self-sufficient and allow them to do more of what they want with their original focus. It would definitely take some work to stick with the current focus of the zoo and cold weather animals in most areas, but I think they can continue to do it. It would obviously just take some work.

I don't really know much about David Frawley still, but I remember thinking when he was first hired, he did not seem to be the type of director that would aggressively work to expand the zoo, but would instead focus on the conservation aspects and be more focused on maintaining what was their. I think this is shown in the article by them not wanting to expand and destroy nature as it is not within the scope of the zoo's goals. It is definitely commendable, but I'm not sure it will work out in the long run if the zoo wants to be self-sustaining. I don't think they need to develop all of the 500+ acres they have, but I do think they should develop some of the additional space.

Lastly, does anyone actually have a copy of the master plan? I looked for it a bit, but didn't find it. Didn't do a deep dive though. Are their any new plans for animals in it?
 
I don't want to continue to derail this thread, but when I was last able to spend a significant amount of time at Como a year ago I saw the manakin, along with ground dove, sunbittern, violaceous euphonia, and several tanagers (burnished buff, paradise, etc.). It just takes patience to search around the saffron finches and blue-gray tanagers to find them.

Getting back to the Minnesota Zoo, I agree entirely with the points made by @NSU42. In an ideal world, the zoo would strive for a few more ABCs. It won't really ever feel complete unless/until it exhibits a great ape, a couple megaherbivores, and more herp/insect vivaria. What's been publicly announced of the new facilites plan in the recent article doesn't really suggest any of that. However, I am less pessimistic than others might be. The key point that @NSU42 made was that the zoo needs to do a better job of revenue generation. The plans suggested in the newspaper article do that. In reality, they are mostly tweaked versions of items from the 2012 master plan developed under Lee Ehmke anyway. Overnight accommodation as Northwoods camping instead of "African" camping. Climbing/ropes course out front using the old IMAX building instead of in back behind the lake. You get the picture. The main new item is the treetop trail, and that is the first initiative by the zoo in a very long time that seems to have sparked the interest of major private donors. I think John Frawley is doing a smart thing by focusing first on revenue generation along with dealing with eyesores like closed exhibit areas and defunct monorail tracks. My hope is that this will eventually generate the momentum needed to position the zoo to bring in a few of those missing key species and provide a more complete experience.

As far as the complete facilities plan goes, I've not seen it anywhere yet either. I did notice that the zoo recently pulled the 2012 plan off the web, and obviously has made the press aware of some of their plans. I'm hoping it might show up in full once the next state legislative session gets going (since the state legislature would be responsible for funding construction costs of these plans).
 
I just read the article about the new plans and I like the idea of reusing the monorail track for an elevated walkway. I think it's a good reuse. I realize the lack of new animal exhibits is disappointing to ZooChatters, but investing in infrastructure is a necessary part of running a zoo. The only truly disappointing part of the article is the paragraph that gives undue validation to the voices of zoo critics: "...some zoo officials across the country are rethinking the purpose of zoos amid debates about the ethics of keeping exotic animals in captivity." Really? Which zoo officials? And who is debating the ethics of captivity other than a small minority in fringe animal rights groups? They make no mention of this after their sweeping statement.
 
I just read the article about the new plans and I like the idea of reusing the monorail track for an elevated walkway. I think it's a good reuse. I realize the lack of new animal exhibits is disappointing to ZooChatters, but investing in infrastructure is a necessary part of running a zoo. The only truly disappointing part of the article is the paragraph that gives undue validation to the voices of zoo critics: "...some zoo officials across the country are rethinking the purpose of zoos amid debates about the ethics of keeping exotic animals in captivity." Really? Which zoo officials? And who is debating the ethics of captivity other than a small minority in fringe animal rights groups? They make no mention of this after their sweeping statement.

Every serious zoo professional should (and probably does) think about ethics. Ethics is about more then whether captivity is right/wrong. It is also about how you present, keep and treat animals and the relationship humans have with animals.
 
You'll see that the link answers your musings about his previous experience

Yeah, that's where those musings came from originally. It was just really a gut reaction to the previous experience, I think whether it will actually be true or not remains to be seen. Even with this initial plan they announced. I do think this is a step in the right direction for the zoo. As @Gondwana said, it is the first thing that the zoo has actually been able to get donors to back in quite awhile.
 
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