Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen

amur leopard said:
China and Vatican city are easily forgettable because they were both really short visits (2 and 1 days respectively), and Cyprus I just had a mind blank. I've obviously been to the last two (I've posted photos in the gallery of them) and I can show you photos of China (although none of them are wildlife related since they were all taken by my parents. I have already talked to 2 people about this, and I know, it's just a result of clumsiness. Switzerland was largely because when I went I thought it was part of Germany so I forgot about it :D. I haven't actually been to the Netherlands or Belgium?
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I smell a rat either that or its an elephant load of manure. I think we have gained a new lesser fijian troll!
 
amur leopard said:
China and Vatican city are easily forgettable because they were both really short visits (2 and 1 days respectively), and Cyprus I just had a mind blank. I've obviously been to the last two (I've posted photos in the gallery of them) and I can show you photos of China (although none of them are wildlife related since they were all taken by my parents. I have already talked to 2 people about this, and I know, it's just a result of clumsiness. Switzerland was largely because when I went I thought it was part of Germany so I forgot about it :D. I haven't actually been to the Netherlands or Belgium?
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amur leopard said:
Neither. I'm just clumsy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sure, but there is a fundamental difference between one (somehow) forgetting they've been to a country (twice), and one specifically stating that said country is one of the top 5 they'd like to visit one day because they have never been there. ;)

~Thylo
 
amur leopard said:
China and Vatican city are easily forgettable because they were both really short visits (2 and 1 days respectively)
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You went to China for 2 days:confused:? According to google it’s a 13 hour flight from London to Guangzhou, so you’d be spending 26 hours round-trip(plus time waiting at the airport) on planes just to be in China for 48 hours:eek:.
 
TZDugong said:
You went to China for 2 days:confused:? According to google it’s a 13 hour flight from London to Guangzhou, so you’d be spending 26 hours round-trip(plus time waiting at the airport) on planes just to be in China for 48 hours:eek:.
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Well, if you don't see your mother that regularly its a sacrifice you are often willing to make.
 
I'm not too sure if some of these species are that rare or have been seen by many zoochatters, but I have yet to see that many mention seeing these.

Mammals
Bush dog
Tanuki
Blue duiker
Red-flanked duiker
Gerenuk
Eld's deer
New Guinea singing dog
Dhole
Black-footed cat
African wild cat
Mongoose lemur
Collared lemur
Lion-tailed macaque
Black duiker
Grant's gazelle
Arabian oryx
Green monkey
Patas monkey
Pied tamarin
Fishing cat
Pacific white-sided dolphin
Drill
Lowland anoa
Geoffery's tamarin
Giant panda
Babirusa
Guanco
Barbary striped mouse
Fossa
Indian crested porcupine
De Brazza's monkey
That's all rare mammals that come to mind
 
Birds
Again, I don't know if these are even considered rare sights, but these are animals I've just haven't seen or heard mentioned much.

Great Indian hornbill
Rhinoceros hornbill
Lesser flamingo
Green woodhoopoe
Venezuelan troupial
Bali mynah
Green junglefowl
Knob-billed duck
Black curassow
Harpy eagle
Macaroni penguin
Andean condor
Milky eagle owl
Yellow-billed stork
Black-crowned crane
Secretary bird
Red-headed cardinal
Amethyst starling
Cinereous vulture
White-cheeked turaco
Great blue turaco
Aplomado falcon
Bruce's green pigeon
Wood stork
Raggiana bird-of-paradise
Red-crowned crane


Reptiles
Mexican alligator lizard
Cuban crocodile
Fiji banded iguana
Blue tree monitor
Jamaican boa
Boelen's python
Chinese moccasin
Armenian viper
Mexican lance-headed rattlesnake
Chinese crocodile lizard
Guatemalan beaded lizard
Black beaded lizard
Orinoco crocodile
Loggerhead sea turtle
Urutu
Rhinoceros viper
Fer-de-lance
Chinese alligator
Tropical rattlesnake
Chinese mountain viper
Black tree monitor
Mexican cantil
Burrowing python
Mata mata
Galapagos tortoise
Bog turtle
Pig-nosed turle

Amphibians
Fringed leaf frog
Waxy monkey tree frog
Panamanian golden frog
Tomato frog
Hellbender
Lake Zacapu salamander
Titicaca water frog
Hourglass tree frog
Strawberry poison dart frog
Caecilian
Surinam toad
White-spotted glass frog
Mossy tree frog
Smoky jungle frog
Greater siren
Black-legged poison dart frog

Fish, which is where I'll stop since it's so much
Horse-eyed jack
Paddlefish
Potato grouper
Queensland grouper
Whale shark
Manta ray
Lesser devil ray
Garibaldi
Ratfish
Mutton snapper
Great hammerhead
Remora
Freshwater wolffish
African tigerfish
Wolf eel
White-tip reef shark
Oceanic blacktip shark
Weedy sea dragon
Port Jackson shark
Hogfish
Humphead wrasse
Swell shark
Wobbegong
Electric eel
Filefish
Archerfish



 
Davdhole said:
I'm not too sure if some of these species are that rare or have been seen by many zoochatters, but I have yet to see that many mention seeing these.

Mammals
Bush dog
Tanuki
Blue duiker
Red-flanked duiker
Gerenuk
Eld's deer
New Guinea singing dog
Dhole
Black-footed cat
African wild cat
Mongoose lemur
Collared lemur
Lion-tailed macaque
Black duiker
Grant's gazelle
Arabian oryx
Green monkey
Patas monkey
Pied tamarin
Fishing cat
Pacific white-sided dolphin
Drill
Lowland anoa
Geoffery's tamarin
Giant panda
Babirusa
Guanco
Barbary striped mouse
Fossa
Indian crested porcupine
De Brazza's monkey
That's all rare mammals that come to mind
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For mammals, mongoose lemurs, fishing cats, geoffroy's tamarin, fossa, and de brazza's monkey are fairly common in zoos. Red-flanked duiker, black duiker, Eld's deer, pacific white-sided dolphin, giant panda, and babirusa I'd classify as rare. The rest are dependent on interpretation of the word, I think.

I've seen blue duiker, gerenuk, singing dog, dhole, black-footed cat, african wild cat, arabian oryx, fishing cat, lowland anoa, giant panda, barbary striped mouse, fossa, and indian crested porcupine. The primates I'm not sure of, I don't pay as much attention to species that I see in person (should probably make a list).

From your other lists, ones I'd say are common:
Andean Condor
Black-crowned Crane
Chinese Crocodile
Fiji Banded Iguana
Rhinoceros Viper
Mata Mata
Hellbender
Blacktip shark
Wobbegong
Electric Eel
 
animal_expert01 said:
I know I have posted a list on this thread previously but I would like to update my list. I know quite a few will have seen the species on my captive list but has anyone seen any of the species on my wild list?

Captive
Julia Creek Dunnart
Proserpine Rock Wallaby
Leopard Seal
Proboscis Monkey
Bridled Nailtail Wallaby
Yellow Bellied Glider
Southern Corroboree Frog

Wild
Rufous Bettong**
Australian Bustard
Paradise Riflebird
Mary River Cod
Banded Plover*
Black Bittern
Blind Shark
Ornate Rainbowfish
Ragged Snake Eyed Skink
Elegant Snake Eyed Skink
Red Kangaroo* **
Rose Crowned Fruit Dove
Emu* **
Spinifex Pigeon
Leaden Flycatcher
Emerald Dove
Australian Pratincole
Fairy Penguin* **
Blue Billed Duck
Major Skink
Platypus* **
Comb Crested Jacana

*means I think quite a few people would have seen them in the wild but I'm asking just in case.
** means I have also seen the animal in captivity
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Ive seen a blue billed duck in the wild before
 
Davdhole said:
I'm not too sure if some of these species are that rare or have been seen by many zoochatters, but I have yet to see that many mention seeing these.

Mammals
Bush dog
Tanuki
Blue duiker
Red-flanked duiker
Gerenuk
Eld's deer
New Guinea singing dog
Dhole
Black-footed cat
African wild cat
Mongoose lemur
Collared lemur
Lion-tailed macaque
Black duiker
Grant's gazelle
Arabian oryx
Green monkey
Patas monkey
Pied tamarin
Fishing cat
Pacific white-sided dolphin
Drill
Lowland anoa
Geoffery's tamarin
Giant panda
Babirusa
Guanco
Barbary striped mouse
Fossa
Indian crested porcupine
De Brazza's monkey
That's all rare mammals that come to mind
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Seen all but the Green Monkey and dolphin :)

Davdhole said:
Birds
Again, I don't know if these are even considered rare sights, but these are animals I've just haven't seen or heard mentioned much.

Great Indian hornbill
Rhinoceros hornbill
Lesser flamingo
Green woodhoopoe
Venezuelan troupial
Bali mynah
Green junglefowl
Knob-billed duck
Black curassow
Harpy eagle
Macaroni penguin
Andean condor
Milky eagle owl
Yellow-billed stork
Black-crowned crane
Secretary bird
Red-headed cardinal
Amethyst starling
Cinereous vulture
White-cheeked turaco
Great blue turaco
Aplomado falcon
Bruce's green pigeon
Wood stork
Raggiana bird-of-paradise
Red-crowned crane


Reptiles
Mexican alligator lizard
Cuban crocodile
Fiji banded iguana
Blue tree monitor
Jamaican boa
Boelen's python
Chinese moccasin
Armenian viper
Mexican lance-headed rattlesnake
Chinese crocodile lizard
Guatemalan beaded lizard
Black beaded lizard
Orinoco crocodile
Loggerhead sea turtle
Urutu
Rhinoceros viper
Fer-de-lance
Chinese alligator
Tropical rattlesnake
Chinese mountain viper
Black tree monitor
Mexican cantil
Burrowing python
Mata mata
Galapagos tortoise
Bog turtle
Pig-nosed turle

Amphibians
Fringed leaf frog
Waxy monkey tree frog
Panamanian golden frog
Tomato frog
Hellbender
Lake Zacapu salamander
Titicaca water frog
Hourglass tree frog
Strawberry poison dart frog
Caecilian
Surinam toad
White-spotted glass frog
Mossy tree frog
Smoky jungle frog
Greater siren
Black-legged poison dart frog

Fish, which is where I'll stop since it's so much
Horse-eyed jack
Paddlefish
Potato grouper
Queensland grouper
Whale shark
Manta ray
Lesser devil ray
Garibaldi
Ratfish
Mutton snapper
Great hammerhead
Remora
Freshwater wolffish
African tigerfish
Wolf eel
White-tip reef shark
Oceanic blacktip shark
Weedy sea dragon
Port Jackson shark
Hogfish
Humphead wrasse
Swell shark
Wobbegong
Electric eel
Filefish
Archerfish
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Only missing Urutu, Chinese Mountain Pitviper, and the glass frog.

~Thylo
 
Najade said:
Other than the fish (never paid that much attention to them so don't know if I saw 'em or not) I've seen every species on your wild list (incl. the Shelduck). Compared to some other stuff out there none of them are really all that rare though.
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I never said any of them were rare, in fact in certain locations some of these species can be quite abundant (as I’m sure your quite aware). I just based my list of species that had limited ranges or were found in places people don’t usually visit.

So probably the only things that could be considered rare sightings amongst zoochatters would be Mary River Cod, Ornate Rainbowfish, Paradise Riflebird, Australian Bustard, Emu, Spinifex Pigeon and Red Kangaroo.

On a side note, I would be very interested in seeing your list.
 
animal_expert01 said:
In the wild or captivity? If you are talking about the wild no they are not rare at all, just not many zoochatters have seen them. The ease of seeing them in the wild is also heavily dependent on the rains.
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I really don't see you point - if you say they are not rare in the wild (and they are certainly not rare in captivity), then the only reason most ZooChatters haven't seen them in the wild, is because most ZooChatters don't live in Australia.
 
Andrew Swales said:
I really don't see you point - if you say they are not rare in the wild (and they are certainly not rare in captivity), then the only reason most ZooChatters haven't seen them in the wild, is because most ZooChatters don't live in Australia.
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Yes... hence they have rarely been seen by Zoochatters. The same as saying few Zoochatters have seen Grey-shanked Doucs because few Zoochatters have been to Vietnam. That's generally how something being rarely seen works - they are either wild or captive in places to which few Zoochatters have been. It's not difficult to understand.
 
How easy has it been to see Black Footed Cat historically? We got very lucky with seeing the last one at Port Lympne in the year before it died.
 
Zia said:
How easy has it been to see Black Footed Cat historically? We got very lucky with seeing the last one at Port Lympne in the year before it died.
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For some reason I have in my head that black footed cats are one of those animals whose presence varies far more dramatically between regions than one would expect. As of 2018, at least 19 US collections had them.
 
Zia said:
How easy has it been to see Black Footed Cat historically? We got very lucky with seeing the last one at Port Lympne in the year before it died.
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Until the decade or so before the species disappeared from Europe, it was faring pretty well in European collections - not many collections held the species relatively speaking, but they bred ridiculously well in those collections which did hold them; Wuppertal alone had a breeding population of something like 20 individuals in the early 1990s.

Then the population crashed due to genetic bottlenecking allowing fatal kidney disease to become prevalent in the captive population, sad to say. To give an idea of how fast the decline hit, of the 24 collections listed on ZTL as having held the species, 14 still did so within the 2000s and 2010s.
 
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