No longer kept/rarely kept species in North American zoos?
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Meaghan Edwards
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I noticed that, too! I rarely see African Leopards in North American zoos. I can't complain about the leopards I do see, of course. They're all gorgeous cats.From what I can find, it seems that Leopards are usually the missing piece of the Big Five puzzle for some other zoos. But that doesnt mean that Cape Buffalo arent rare too
Neat bit of trivia, Cape Buffalo were in the Toronto Zoo's Planning Map
Along with many now-rare or even "extinct" animals in North America. Maned Goose, Blesbok (I believe they're rarely kept in N.American collections), Giant Eland, Cora (Arabian) Gazelle, Serow, Quokka, etc. http://www.zoochat.com/532/1972-planning-map-toronto-zoo-39833/
And speaking of big fish, how many facilities in North American have Ocean Sunfish? Not many, I imagine.
Zebraduiker
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Blesbok are to be phased out in North America, they sould only be kept now in europe and the zoos zoos keeping bontebok.
And teh Berlin Aninnmal park is the best wexample for a zoo, who is in many things evry bad for the animals, but zoofreinds loves this place, becuase it has such a wonderful collection of rare animals. Si I belive, mayn zoofreidns are not very intersted in the welfare of animals....Or why can it be, a zoo like Berlin east which is more than 160 hectares in size has so small elephants exhibits ?
And teh Berlin Aninnmal park is the best wexample for a zoo, who is in many things evry bad for the animals, but zoofreinds loves this place, becuase it has such a wonderful collection of rare animals. Si I belive, mayn zoofreidns are not very intersted in the welfare of animals....Or why can it be, a zoo like Berlin east which is more than 160 hectares in size has so small elephants exhibits ?
drzoomi
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Red titi monkey- as far as i know nobody have them in the US or in Canada
Mountain tapirs- i've seen 6 - LA zoo, SF zoo and Mountains view (canada) each had a couple.
Bairds tapir - saw only one, in SF zoo.
Giant pandas- i know the 4 zoo has them : Memphis zoo, Atlanta zoo, SD zoo and the NZ. so i guess there are around 10 in the US (someone here wrote 3?)
Sumatran rhino- LA zoo had one , and Cinceneti zoo had 3 of them (all in one family)
Red Uakari- saw them only in LA Zoo.
red wolf- saw them only in 2-3 zoos
Brown Hyeana- i know of only 1.0 in Moutains view (CA)
Sifaka- saw them only in 2 zoos - The maryland zoo and Cleavland zoo
black lion tamarin- i know only about a group in Central park zoo
vancouver marmoot- only in Mountains view
species i haven't seen or heard about in the US OR CA:
any Three toed Sloth- any one know's about them?
Pangolins, asian lions, syrian brown bears, arabic leopard.
About Hyeanas: I think most zoo faded their Hyeanas in order to bring african wild dogs, it the trend at the moment.
and about Tierpark Berlin- i agree, they have an amazing collection!
Mountain tapirs- i've seen 6 - LA zoo, SF zoo and Mountains view (canada) each had a couple.
Bairds tapir - saw only one, in SF zoo.
Giant pandas- i know the 4 zoo has them : Memphis zoo, Atlanta zoo, SD zoo and the NZ. so i guess there are around 10 in the US (someone here wrote 3?)
Sumatran rhino- LA zoo had one , and Cinceneti zoo had 3 of them (all in one family)
Red Uakari- saw them only in LA Zoo.
red wolf- saw them only in 2-3 zoos
Brown Hyeana- i know of only 1.0 in Moutains view (CA)
Sifaka- saw them only in 2 zoos - The maryland zoo and Cleavland zoo
black lion tamarin- i know only about a group in Central park zoo
vancouver marmoot- only in Mountains view
species i haven't seen or heard about in the US OR CA:
any Three toed Sloth- any one know's about them?
Pangolins, asian lions, syrian brown bears, arabic leopard.
About Hyeanas: I think most zoo faded their Hyeanas in order to bring african wild dogs, it the trend at the moment.
and about Tierpark Berlin- i agree, they have an amazing collection!
ANyhuis
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From what I can find, it seems that Leopards are usually the missing piece of the Big Five puzzle for some other zoos. But that doesnt mean that Cape Buffalo arent rare too
You're right -- especially AFRICAN leopards. In fact, even Jacksonville's complete "Big Five" collection is somewhat cheating, since their leopard (who is displayed among the African animals) is actually an Asian leopard.
ANyhuis
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To my knowledge, Monterey Bay is the only one.
ANyhuis
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DrZoomi: A few points -- LA Zoo no longer has Sumatran rhinos. The Cheyenne Mountain Zoo (in Colorado Springs) is the 3rd USA zoo with mountain tapirs. As for Bairds tapirs, red wolves, and sifakas, they are all much more common than you say. I can count between 7-12 zoos where these 3 species are seen.
As for Tierpark Berlin, it wasn't the most modern zoo, but I didn't see many problems that would affect the animals' welfare.
drzoomi
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i wrote "had" which means that when i was there(almost 3 years ago) they had a male, i know he was sent to Sumatra.
about those 3 species: from what i saw i haven't saw them too much, and so i think they are pretty rare, but still.
Tierpark Berlin is not the newst and modern zoo i've visited, it's exhibits are not "milion dollars worth" but they have an amazing collection, a very profersional staff and great breeding in many of the species.
i loved that zoo, altough not every exhibit was the best one. they still have some cages. but in General i loved it
drzoomi
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and still you don't see them that much in zoos......or at list the one i visited, and by the way, some of those 100, a bit number i guess are living near tacoma in their breeding program up in the mountain.
I didnt say that you dont see them at all...but you dont see them that much.....
I didnt say that you dont see them at all...but you dont see them that much.....
Obviously we have a different idea of what is "rare" when it comes to zoos. My idea is along the lines of about half dozens zoos and less than 25 individuals. Here are the current numbers for Red Wolves if you are interested:
Current as of July 2008.
# individuals in captive population: 198
# of facilites holding red wolves: 42
# of those facilites that are public: 37
# of wolves at Tacoma: 44
Current as of July 2008.
# individuals in captive population: 198
# of facilites holding red wolves: 42
# of those facilites that are public: 37
# of wolves at Tacoma: 44
drzoomi
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well okapikpr, i didnt know that there are so many, in my trip i haven't seen so many,
you are right that 198 is not so "Rare" but you have to agree that 198 total number of animals is not so "common" .but lets not argue about it. thanks for the numbers!
Meaghan Edwards
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From the "Bat Zone" thread, Vampire Bats to the list in the rare category. The last time I saw them in a North American zoo was at the Toronto Zoo around 2000. They didn't have them for very long.
Hippopotamus
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But there are still Vampire Bats in Jacksonville Zoo.
Hippopotamus
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There are still Island Flying Foxes in Brevard Zoo, as well as Malayan Flying Foxes in Disney's Animal Kingdom, I suppose.
Very true, however these are one of the few facilities actually holding them in North America.
Hippopotamus
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Actually I was wrong. Rodriguez flying foxes and large flying foxes are at Disney's Animal Kingdom, and little flying foxes are at Brevard Zoo.
Buckeye092
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I don't know why but the Columbus Zoo seems to have three rare bat species, two species from Okapikpr's List: the Lesser Dog Faced Fruit Bat, Malayan Flying Fox, and Golden Mantled Flying Fox. All of these species are also at Lubee. I'm not sure but I think that's where we got all of our bats.