pretty simple most of PECO at philly
Why?
pretty simple most of PECO at philly
Most of the exhibits seem a bit small and overcrowded. Also outside exhibit for orangutans could have more climbing structures I’ll elobarate in more detail laterWhy?
Yeah, PECO was underwhelming to me as well. I believe it was built not too long ago (late 90’s?), and yet it the exhibitors is fairly old-fashioned. Not the worst building ever - it has aye-ayes and Zoo360 - but probably the worst exhibit at the zoo.Most of the exhibits seem a bit small and overcrowded. Also outside exhibit for orangutans could have more climbing structures I’ll elobarate in more detail later
*puts on helmet for protection*
Bad exhibits at great zoos
Toledo Zoo - 1. some of the tanks at the aquarium are on the small or overcrowded side, 2. Tembo Trail is a big mish-mosh of mammals from all over: African elephants and Indian rhino, yaks and brown bear (in an ugly exhibit), and Tasmanian devils? What were they thinking? At least San Diego's Elephant Odyssey is mish-moshed for a clear reason (representing Ice Age-era California using living species as proxies) 3. the tigers and snow leopards
Cincinnati Zoo - I might forgive the reptile house if they didn't have that awful Chinese alligator/snapping turtle pond. In the Africa section, I didn't like the "group" composition of the herd animals (kudu, wildebeest, warthog) because they were alone or just in pairs. The exhibit itself was lovely, but the group compositions I believe were not appropriate. To be fair, I only went once in 2018, so it could very well be different now.
Fort Worth Zoo - coyote, bear, penguins/eiders (the eiders flew real fast to the other side of the exhibit every time someone went by. It also feels more cobbled together than like an actual pleasant zoo exhibit experience). Also didn't love the tigers, but mostly because of the iron bar fencing that looks like a vestige of the bad old days of zoos (to be fair, they are working on their master plan, so some of these exhibits may look different in a few years)
Columbus Zoo - Humboldt penguins. The okapis could have used more privacy; also didn't love the gorilla habitat but I think they plan on renovating it
Brookfield Zoo - Tropics World (ugly, sterile. Decent immersion level, though)
Shedd Aquarium - California sea lion; they had a cane toad once in a waaaaaay too small terrarium, but I don't think they still have it.
Bronx Zoo - Reptile House mostly because it is dark in some spots. Aquatic Bird House (looks like bathroom).
Detroit Zoo - some of the exhibits in the reptile house were a bit on the small side.
Philadelphia Zoo - small mammal house (same as Bronx Zoo aquatic bird house)
St. Louis Zoo - echidna/tree kangaroo and some of the farm animals in Children's Zoo looked like they could use more space. Same goes for some of the big cat exhibits.
The Wilds - parakeet aviary. The carnivores (African hunting dogs, cheetahs, and dholes) could have used more space or at least more privacy)
Dallas Zoo - one okapi had a smallish enclosure with no greenery and little in the way of shelter, the other was near the hippo exhibit (space looked ok) and the day I was there, they were cleaning the hippo pond with loud hoses. I felt bad for the okapi who I believe was hidden or not on show.
Good exhibits at bad zoos (not that I think these are totally bad zoos, just showing age or in need of a facelift)
Buffalo Zoo (not so much bad, just showing its age) - Rainforest Falls (immersive Venzualen Amazon exhibit with free-flying birds, giant anteaters, ocelots, vampire bats, and caimans.
Franklin Park Zoo - nice lion and tiger exhibits, not Detroit-tier, but looked to be enough space and with enough privacy. Also nice African hoofstock (including giraffes) exhibits. I have a friend from the Boston-area who called this zoo "sad", and I think he sold the place short.
Bad exhibits in good zoos.
Good exhibits in bad zoos.
Ive only been to 2 bad zoos (philip island wildife park and Werribee zoo)
Werribee zoos vervet monkey and orange bellied enclosures are brilliant examples of what the zoo should have been like all throughout. I don’t hate Werribee for the enclosures though I hate it for other reasons.
What are your reasons for hating Werribee? It's one of the top zoos in the country.
I wouldn’t say L.A zoo is that bad but it’s your opinion, not mineWorst at good zoos
San Diego Zoo - Asian Passage grottos, Horn and hoofstock mesa and the other miscellaneous animals in Northern frontier (They should have done something to that area when they built Elephant Odyssey or updated Northern Frontier)
San Diego Zoo Wild Animal Park- African Woods (it feels like they didn't put the same amount of care when building it as compared to African Outpost)
Bronx Zoo- The World of Birds (I'm ok with nostalgia feel of the park, but the World of Birds Building ruins it), Birds of Prey exhibits (Definitely need to be updated and made larger)
Central Park Zoo- Sea lions (I hate it when zoos build lazy sea lion exhibits it just feels like they aren't trying)
Miami Zoo- Tiger Exhibit(it feels baren besides the temple)
Best at bad zoos and aquariums
L.A. Zoo- The LAIR, Rainforests of the Americas, and Chimpanzees of the Mahale Mountains
Santa Barbra Zoo- California Trails (Best California exhibit I have ever seen)
Seaworld San Diego(While not terrible many of their recent decisions to add roller coasters instead of exhibits has caused me to put them here)- Wild Arctic (Still holds up after 20 years), and Penguin encounter (possibly one of the largest penguin colonies in America with Emporer, King, Adelie, Gentoo, Chinstrap, and Macaroni penguins; also the outdoor exhibit with Magellanic penguins and misc. seabirds.
While it isn't terrible my problem is how old the exhibits are. I feel like most of the zoo has been in need of a remodel for many years and we're just now receiving one that will not be in effect until 2023. I put it in the bad zoo category because the exhibits I talked about were much better than the other regular exhibits you would find at the zoo because all of the other exhibits (Except for elephants of Asia and campo reserve) are outdated.I wouldn’t say L.A zoo is that bad but it’s your opinion, not mine
Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that.While it isn't terrible my problem is how old the exhibits are. I feel like most of the zoo has been in need of a remodel for many years and we're just now receiving one that will not be in effect until 2023. I put it in the bad zoo category because the exhibits I talked about were much better than the other regular exhibits you would find at the zoo because all of the other exhibits (Except for elephants of Asia and campo reserve) are outdated.
That was the old Madagascar exhibit, had three or four lemur species (including mongoose lemurs) and the radiated tortoises now oddly placed in what was Australasia. Over the years there has been a number of out of place uses for the exhibit. Perhaps the worst was when there was north american river otters in it, but it has also had american alligators, great-horned owls, north american porcupine, and some other stuff. If I was to name a bad exhibit in the zoo though, I would probably say that World of Adaptations us a disappointment. The old Australasia was superior and had a lot of better animals. The king vultures are not a good use of the old aviary and I miss some of the unusual herps and fish species that were taken out when they got the Komodo dragon and when they made the new tree roo exhibit. The northern tree shrews were also a very interesting species removed from the exhibit.Bad exhibits in good zoos:
At Roger Williams Park Zoo, there are like 3 or 4 weird box enclosures right outside the Marco Polo trail which I find extremely out of place. I believe they were once home to lemurs, and last time I visited I remember seeing a North American porcupine in one of them.
St. Louis Zoo polar bear exhibit definitely falls short of the rest of the zoo.
I did not say that it was truly a bad exhibit, just that it falls short of the rest of the zoo. When you compare the polar bear exhibit to Penguin and Puffin Coast, River's Edge, Sea Lion Sound, etc. it definitely does not compare with the other newer exhibits at the zoo. It also is a little disappointing seeing that this is the new bear exhibit. It definitely does not compete in the same league with other polar bear exhibits, such as Polar Fronteir at Columbus or Arctic Ring of Life at Detroit.How so? I was just there today (well now yesterday) and think they have a pretty good polar bear exhibit. A decent pool, maybe could be deeper, and plenty of natural substrate. Not a lot of trees or shade structures, but the same can be said for the Arctic.