Chester Zoo Chester Zoo sold out of membership entry tickets but can book advanced tickets

Do we know if they (none turn ups) are members or non-members?
As been said if you have to book up 4 weeks in advance and the day of your trip turns up and it's raining hard then the casual zoo visitor would probaly not bother to turn up but doesn't everyone have to pay before hand for there tickets.
 
Do we know if they (none turn ups) are members or non-members?
As been said if you have to book up 4 weeks in advance and the day of your trip turns up and it's raining hard then the casual zoo visitor would probaly not bother to turn up but doesn't everyone have to pay before hand for there tickets.
The article is about members. Non members do have pay up front, so the zoo would not be losing out so much if they were the ones not turning up.

"... on a few occasions this week we’ve had a number of days where more than 1,000 members haven’t turned up and visited the zoo – despite booking slots."
 
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I don't think there's anything hugely shocking about it - if you have to book to visit 4+ weeks in advance, which is currently the case, there's always a risk that you might have to change your plans. Perhaps more publicity for the cancellation option (discussed by SMR/littleRedPanda above) would be a good step?

But people commit to holidays much further in advance, and often to get tickets for a concert you have to book it a year early. By comparison, reserving a place to visit a zoo a month ahead doesn't seem that much. I know its something people are not used to, but maybe we have to accept it and get used to it. If I was that firmly against visiting in bad weather, personally I wouldn't pre-book for an outdoor attraction.

I just don't see that many people genuinely not being able to visit on a date they've booked - some will I'm sure, but I suspect most are just booking more slots than they need solely because they get in for free. If that's the case, then I think its very selfish of them.
 
Presumably then Chester did not deliberately source a second rate system from Code, and until it was properly tested by volume after re-opening, they would not have been in a position to know exactly how deficient you say it is - and by then it is too late to start from scratch...
Anyone with even a moderate level of digital marketing experience would know that once launched, the zoo's booking platform would quickly become incredibly busy. There was already a precedent for this, across many other organisations, and historically when high demand tickets go on sale. It's not a case of launching something that is untested and then falls over under load, it's a case of launching something that has been tested under load. The efficiency and positive impression alone outweigh any fees if using a third party, and there's the saving on time and development resources in the first place. Additionally, the commercial CEO wouldn't have to keep writing to members to apologise.

Incidentally, I doubt Code had anything to do with this, I only mentioned them as the zoo have historically outsourced their web builds.

To the OP, I think this article sums up the main problem: Chester Zoo have had more than 1,000 'no show' visitors this week

The reporting in that article is questionable, and the text contradictory. "Chester Zoo issues plea to visitors after more than 1,000 'no shows' in a week". Presumably that means over 1,000 people failed to turn up across seven days. Then later: "...on several occasions there have been a number of days where more than 1,000 members who have booked slots, haven't turned up...". So that's individual days? I'd suggest the former is correct.

I find it really shocking that people who supposedly support the zoo act like this. Presumably if the zoo didn't limit the number of free member tickets per day, they might book up all the available slots, robbing the zoo of much-needed income.

It was wholly predictable, and largely down to the increase in members. In 2011 the zoo had 38,500 members, in 2013 they had more than 50,000, and in 2018 they were celebrating 100,000 members. All of them have paid, something in the region of £100 for adults and £60 for children. That's a lot of income already in the bank.

Moreover, you have to look at the visiting habits of annual members, who are used to popping into the zoo for a few hours when the weather is fine, or when there's a new elephant/bear/rhino etc. That's going to be a hard habit to break, and the culture is fostered in part by the zoo who have encouraged such a huge number of members. The fact that here in Chester it keeps raining, really isn't going to help.
 
Perhaps a deposit system for members could help discourage no shows not a lot say £5 or £10 per head which could be refunded on entry or if cancellation a few days in advance with a choice of cash back to there account or vouchers to use in the zoo to retain funds for the zoo
 
What exactly is the problem with the booking system itself?

I don't mean the limitation on ticket numbers - but the system / process of booking (and then cancelling if you need to) a ticket assuming one is available?
 
Its rather clunky, in more ways than one, compared to most booking systems.

The biggest problem I've had is a lack of availability though, which just compounds the annoyance at the clunky booking system. There has been no announcement when extra dates have been made available, and they've been released piecemeal. Weeks have gone by and I haven't been yet. However, I do now have two Sunday afternoons booked, one in August and one in September. But it took a lot of getting there.
 
What exactly is the problem with the booking system itself?

I don't mean the limitation on ticket numbers - but the system / process of booking (and then cancelling if you need to) a ticket assuming one is available?
I don’t know how good this system is my self as having used it yet but as I am sure most places are experiencing it’s the cancelling if you need to thing with members whom are getting a free ticket in effect so aren’t all cancelling as they have nothing to lose
 
I would suggest the zoo opt for a pay when booking a time slot to discourage no shows.
I am sure that they are doing so, like all zoos - for general tickets.
It is the allocation of 'free' at booking slots being taken and not used, thereby depriving the zoo of selling tickets to the general public which is their issue. We only have around 5000 season ticket holders, and as I have mentioned before, currently the use is lower than normal at the moment. If the system starts to become abused (which in six weeks, hasn't happened yet) we will simply reduce the numbers of codes sent to members. In the meantime we have added an afternoon slot which might suit their 'pop-in' requirements better.

If with hindsight Chester's failures are so wholly predictable (which I personally doubt given the size of the organisation), then surely it would have been so simple for them to have taken the right steps following the right advice in the first place. Maybe the same advisers could have advised National Government too, as they don't seem to have got everything right either.

None of us have been here before...
 
Its rather clunky, in more ways than one, compared to most booking systems.

The biggest problem I've had is a lack of availability though, which just compounds the annoyance at the clunky booking system. There has been no announcement when extra dates have been made available, and they've been released piecemeal. Weeks have gone by and I haven't been yet. However, I do now have two Sunday afternoons booked, one in August and one in September. But it took a lot of getting there.

When a place would normally be getting 15,000 visitors each day but is only allowed to have 5,000 # availability is going to be a problem.

Personally I'm delighted tickets are hard to come by as it means the zoo is maximising revenue. In the current circumstances the zoo needs to fill its quota every single day, ideally with non-members.

# - these figures may not currently apply.
 
My beef is not with the cap/limitation in numbers of tickets issued to members. Its the haphazard and random way they've been released. It would be sensible to announce something in advance, or at least have a regular release pattern, rather than have me check the clunky booking system four times a day just to see if there is any new availability.

Like I say, I've got tickets now, but not without a ball ache and waste of my time along the way.
 
I think @Kifaru Bwana is suggesting a refundable fee for members; book a tkt, pay a fiver and have it returned when you use the tkt. I've no idea how easy that is to do, but I wouldn't object.
Oh - thank you - sounds pretty simple, and I would have though any system should be able to incorporate that. Though, to protect the Zoo from the revenue loss following a member over booking and subsequent no-show, by which time it was too late to re-sell the space, the fee would need to be set at the same price as a ticket - but that would be no problem if it was genuinely needed as it would be refunded on use. Sounds simples..!
 
I think @Kifaru Bwana is suggesting a refundable fee for members; book a tkt, pay a fiver and have it returned when you use the tkt. I've no idea how easy that is to do, but I wouldn't object.
I think I was trying to suggest this and possibly kifaru also though am not sure they where getting mixed up with members and public anyways it doesn’t matter, in addition to a deposit I also said this could be returned on entry to discourage members not turning up as cash returned to there card or a voucher for the zoo keeping the money in the zoo which would be better as nobody ever seams to spend every penny of a voucher or if they do will often add to it when they over spend creating more income that they may well have not even spent in the first place. Whilst the zoo can quite rightly justify this sort of deposit scheme by the number of no shows they are experiencing
 
Just a quick update for everyone .
Plenty of tickets for members for August on Chester zoo web site.
 
Weekends too, for the latter half of the month. Obviously some new blocks of tickets released to members.
 
Weekends too, for the latter half of the month. Obviously some new blocks of tickets released to members.

Only after 2pm slots available though...which no good for me.

I will wait to go back then, I have two weeks off coming up and looks like I shall be spending them at home.
 
I've opted for the 2 o'clock slots as I've assumed, rightly or wrongly, that a lot of day trippers will be leaving a little earlier than in the old world.. leaving the zoo progressively quieter as the afternoon goes on. We'll see.
 
I’m thinking of buying a membership for either twycross zoo or Chester although I don’t know What one to pick Chester zoo let 3 years and younger go for free which would be beneficial but twycross is closer less expensive to get a membership and has more apes ( which I love ) so which should I choose also how much do carers pay for a membership at both
 
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