JurassicMax
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Sounds like a good plan and efficient use of land.
Mixed species enclosures and other changes for Burgers Zoo
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Sounds like a good plan and efficient use of land.
Thank goodness, for a moment I thought you were going to scold me because that would be impossible or something
We don't want to scold you we want to help you build a better design for Burgers. I am very sorry if anything I said came off as me scolding you.
Oh no, definitely not. Just couldn't think of a better word there
Moving on the the freshwater region, you enter the aquarium that I want to pick a creative shape or decoration for but can't think of one so for now it's just a plain brick building through a very normal door.
At first sight there's immediately a slightly plain aquarium based on the Dutch Sluice gates and Amsterdam canals, with rusty bike and everything! It includes European salmon, Maraena, North Atlantic Brown trout and freshwater eels. It has the normal information boards on the animals, along with a board on fish that migrate from salt to fresh water and how the Sluice gates obstruct that.
There's also smaller freshwater aquariums with sticklebacks, roaches and gudgeons, but also an aquarium for the European crayfish.
Then you move on to the more interesting region.
You walk over a bridge (I think I have a bridge problem) over a small creek with standing water, filled with small fish, freshwater crabs, and freshwater mussels.
The bridge slowly descends into the mud before making way for an underwater tunnel with pikes, carps, sturgeons and catfish. Again based on a mixture of the Amsterdam canals and the Friesche waterways.
You eventually you come into an underground tunnel and move on to see the underwater viewing for both the European otter and European beaver
At first sight there's immediately a slightly plain aquarium based on the Dutch Sluice gates and Amsterdam canals, with rusty bike and everything! It includes European salmon, Maraena, North Atlantic Brown trout and freshwater eels. It has the normal information boards on the animals, along with a board on fish that migrate from salt to fresh water and how the Sluice gates obstruct that.
There's also smaller freshwater aquariums with sticklebacks, roaches and gudgeons, but also an aquarium for the European crayfish.
Then you move on to the more interesting region.
You walk over a bridge (I think I have a bridge problem) over a small creek with standing water, filled with small fish, freshwater crabs, and freshwater mussels.
The bridge slowly descends into the mud before making way for an underwater tunnel with pikes, carps, sturgeons and catfish. Again based on a mixture of the Amsterdam canals and the Friesche waterways.
You eventually you come into an underground tunnel and move on to see the underwater viewing for both the European otter and European beaver
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JurassicMax
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Would European lobsters be interesting to house in on of the different aquariums?
So maybe you could start of in a salt water area with species that migrate from salt to fresh, after this you enter the freshwater area?
So maybe you could start of in a salt water area with species that migrate from salt to fresh, after this you enter the freshwater area?
you should deffintivly not put a european catfish together with them. They are very capeble of hurting/eating the other fish
Tempting, but I think I want to keep it freshwater. They are definitely going into Burger's Wad though, the plan B if Burgers Arctic falls through
Even a sturgeon?
Dang, that's a shame. They looked so cool!
I'll make a large seperate aquarium for the catfish then, anything that could go along with them?
So there is no such thing as a bridge problem bridges are great. For the outside, I would suggest doing a gothic architecture. And I would try to get in contact with a European aquarist to verify that eels are safe with salmon and trout
Iam not worried about the sturgen, but the other fish
Atleast are Catfish a species, that doesnt need much space
and again about the bongos in the nights house. You realize that it would mean that one of the main paths of the zoo, owuld be inside the night house itself. Both a anyoence to animals and human. And aswell, that would be for safty reasons (like a fire) be not allowed to be build
I'll ask ecomare first, maybe also give them a visit first to see if they currently have a shared enclosure with the eels
As discussed before, the path will be going over and the night house will have a small area underground. There are two paths that are easily accessable and unless the goliath frogs somehow get a fire started I don't think there's a problem for that. Then again, I'm no expert but I'll let Burger's zoo decide
Sorry to keep bothering you with questions, but would it be safe to house large fish (antarctic toothfish and spiny dogfish) with penguins (king and adelie)? I imagine the dogfish would be okay (they just eat shellfish) but I'm unsure about the toothfish. it grows to 1.7m and could probably eat an adelie. If that doesn't work, might move them to another tank and replace with some kind of Antarctic seabird. Any suggestions for species? I don't know much about birds.
I don't think any fish would work, the penguins would still fish them up and eat them in pieces, most flying seabirds do work I believe, as long as they aren't predatory
Alright then, the final region of Burger's Woods: Owl castle (Or bat castle, not sure yet. It will probably get a German or French translation though).
It's rather hard to describe this one, actually.
You enter on a small sort of plaza with one wall to the side, through the glass you can see sables jumping around on branches and fallen logs. You move through the tower gate (Similar to the entrance to Doornroosje's castle in the Efteling). In the left tower you can see a small, inside area for the sables. The areas next to the pine martens and around the stoat tower go upwards with staircases, to make a bigger height difference.
If you take the left route, you'll go along a wall with some windows to view the pine martens before being faced with a small, barred window where you can view the owls. You enter the owl enclosure through double doors. If you want, you can climb up the staircase to the watchtower and get a top view of the forest. When you go back down you can walk over the rest of the path to a door that leads to the dungeons. You take a spiral staircase down and walk through the rat enclosure (Not walkthrough enclosure, but windows on both sides). The large stone bricks are seperated, and a glass covering prevents escapes and feet getting stuck. This way, the rats can freely walk from the one side of the enclosure to the other. You continue on to a typical French wine cellar with bats flying about. The final enclosure belongs to either the Eurasian lynx or the Iberian lynx, prison-like iron bars, along with glass of course, seperate them from the path, finally you exit through the right tower of the exit tower gate.
The middle route will take you past the upper enclosure of the Lynx, which has a similar bars and glass mixture as a viewing point. The larger middle tower houses stoats in an enclosure filled with rocks, logs and branches. Through a double-door seperation similar to the owls you'll enter the raven aviary, the path goes downward before coming to the exit gatehouse, with a double door seperation.
You can also just not enter the castle, if you want. You'll go down a staircase around the tower for viewing into the lower lynx enclosure through small, barred windows similar to archer holes found in medieval castles. On the right side you'll also have the predatory birds aviary. You eventually come down to the same plaza that the other two paths come out into
Sorry for going quiet for a bit, but this one was really difficult
It's rather hard to describe this one, actually.
You enter on a small sort of plaza with one wall to the side, through the glass you can see sables jumping around on branches and fallen logs. You move through the tower gate (Similar to the entrance to Doornroosje's castle in the Efteling). In the left tower you can see a small, inside area for the sables. The areas next to the pine martens and around the stoat tower go upwards with staircases, to make a bigger height difference.
If you take the left route, you'll go along a wall with some windows to view the pine martens before being faced with a small, barred window where you can view the owls. You enter the owl enclosure through double doors. If you want, you can climb up the staircase to the watchtower and get a top view of the forest. When you go back down you can walk over the rest of the path to a door that leads to the dungeons. You take a spiral staircase down and walk through the rat enclosure (Not walkthrough enclosure, but windows on both sides). The large stone bricks are seperated, and a glass covering prevents escapes and feet getting stuck. This way, the rats can freely walk from the one side of the enclosure to the other. You continue on to a typical French wine cellar with bats flying about. The final enclosure belongs to either the Eurasian lynx or the Iberian lynx, prison-like iron bars, along with glass of course, seperate them from the path, finally you exit through the right tower of the exit tower gate.
The middle route will take you past the upper enclosure of the Lynx, which has a similar bars and glass mixture as a viewing point. The larger middle tower houses stoats in an enclosure filled with rocks, logs and branches. Through a double-door seperation similar to the owls you'll enter the raven aviary, the path goes downward before coming to the exit gatehouse, with a double door seperation.
You can also just not enter the castle, if you want. You'll go down a staircase around the tower for viewing into the lower lynx enclosure through small, barred windows similar to archer holes found in medieval castles. On the right side you'll also have the predatory birds aviary. You eventually come down to the same plaza that the other two paths come out into
Sorry for going quiet for a bit, but this one was really difficult
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The classic rule of aquatic aquaria is if it can fit in the other's mouth then it is a no go because the penguins will get eaten. The spiny dogfish should work with the penguins or a California leopard(or zebra shark I don't remember what Australians call it), so pretty much anything in the Hound Shark family or Squalidae/dog shark family.