White-headed langur news

Zorro said:
Would anyone have an update on any of the other species of Snub nosed monkeys?
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The golden snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited and bred in almost every large Chinese zoo; the Guizhou snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited only in Beijing Zoo, which has a pair and their three children, and this species are also kept and bred in the breeding center in Fanjing Mountain, Guizhou; the Yunnan snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited and bred in Beijing Zoo and Kunming Zoo; only one Nu River snub-nosed monkey (Mynamar snub-nosed monkey) is in captivity now, which is kept in Lushui Wildlife Rescue Station of Gaoligong Mountain Reserve, Yunnan.
 
baboon said:
The golden snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited and bred in almost every large Chinese zoo; the Guizhou snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited only in Beijing Zoo, which has a pair and their three children, and this species are also kept and bred in the breeding center in Fanjing Mountain, Guizhou; the Yunnan snub-nosed monkeys are exhibited and bred in Beijing Zoo and Kunming Zoo; only one Nu River snub-nosed monkey (Mynamar snub-nosed monkey) is in captivity now, which is kept in Lushui Wildlife Rescue Station of Gaoligong Mountain Reserve, Yunnan.
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Thank you for this update! :)
 
baboon said:
In fact when I went to Chongzuo in 2015 the natural park was closed, but the local researchers were glad to let us enter. Now it seems that they only allow domestic ecotourism groups to explore this area, and to be honest, the ecotourism there is still immature.
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Oh right, that is interesting.

Well I tend to think that even if this ecotourism is undeveloped it is a promising venture and could be an important component of long-term community based conservation of this species.

I don't want to sound patronising but I have to say that frankly I'm just really impressed that there are domestic ecotourism trips to see these primates and protected areas in China. It is very encouraging to hear and read about.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
Oh right, that is interesting.

Well I tend to think that even if this ecotourism is undeveloped it is a promising venture and could be an important component of long-term community based conservation of this species.

I don't want to sound patronising but I have to say that frankly I'm just really impressed that there are domestic ecotourism trips to see these primates and protected areas in China. It is very encouraging to hear and read about.
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Yes I think there are fewer people in China interested in wildlife viewing than western countries, but now more and more people fall in love with wildlife, especially the young ones, who grow up with wildlife documentaries, zoos and books. And the wildlife viewing industry, though still rather undevelopped, is growing quickly in China. Now we have some great ecotourism destinations that provide people with reliable oppotunisties to appreciate our wildlife, even including snow leopard.
 
baboon said:
Yes I think there are fewer people in China interested in wildlife viewing than western countries, but now more and more people fall in love with wildlife, especially the young ones, who grow up with wildlife documentaries, zoos and books. And the wildlife viewing industry, though still rather undevelopped, is growing quickly in China. Now we have some great ecotourism destinations that provide people with reliable oppotunisties to appreciate our wildlife, even including snow leopard.
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@baboon Would you have an idea as to what zoos within China hold the rarer species like a listing of them?, Thanks!
 
baboon said:
Yes I think there are fewer people in China interested in wildlife viewing than western countries, but now more and more people fall in love with wildlife, especially the young ones, who grow up with wildlife documentaries, zoos and books. And the wildlife viewing industry, though still rather undevelopped, is growing quickly in China. Now we have some great ecotourism destinations that provide people with reliable oppotunisties to appreciate our wildlife, even including snow leopard.
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Agreed, the younger generations are definitely more aware of the environment around them. I do think over time this will have an amalgamating fixing the world effect. Most probably, ecotourism in PR China will be a growth industry as will increased visitation of natural parks and zoos.
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
It would be interesting to know how many white-headed langur would be "hiding" in Chimelong's off-exhibit and how large the colony in the specialised breeding center in Wuzhou is now.
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Sorry but there are no white-headed langurs in Wuzhou now. Since the zoos are not allowed to catch animals in the wild now, the white-headed langur's disappearing from zoo world is inevitable.
 
baboon said:
Yes I think there are fewer people in China interested in wildlife viewing than western countries, but now more and more people fall in love with wildlife, especially the young ones, who grow up with wildlife documentaries, zoos and books. And the wildlife viewing industry, though still rather undevelopped, is growing quickly in China. Now we have some great ecotourism destinations that provide people with reliable oppotunisties to appreciate our wildlife, even including snow leopard.
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I think is an excellent generational trend within Chinese society and it holds a lot of promise for protected areas and endangered species within the country.

Very encouraging indeed and I hope that the ecotourism industry continues to grow.

baboon said:
Sorry but there are no white-headed langurs in Wuzhou now. Since the zoos are not allowed to catch animals in the wild now, the white-headed langur's disappearing from zoo world is inevitable.
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However, this doesn't seem to be a very positive development and I think that the white-headed langur would benefit from ex-situ assurance populations within either Chinese or foreign zoos.
 
Zorro said:
@baboon Would you have an idea as to what zoos within China hold the rarer species like a listing of them?, Thanks!
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Beijing Zoo has the best collection, which includes three species of snub-nosed monkey, a large breeding population of black muntjac, two subspecies of argali, two subspecies of takin, two species of goral, two species of red deer, two species of wild ass, Siberian ibex, Siberian roe deer, yellow-throated marten, crested ibis, black-faced spoonbill, Himalayan snowcock, Tibetan eared pheasant, etc.
Chimelong Safari Park has the best exhibits and best management.
But Shanghai Zoo is the top one zoo of China in my opinion, regarding its species collection, management and exhibition design.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
However, this doesn't seem to be a very positive development and I think that the white-headed langur would benefit from ex-situ assurance populations within either Chinese or foreign zoos.
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Hi I don't think ex-situ population is necessary for white-headed langurs because the species's threat has been removed and everything in the wild is going better and better, though I would be happy if there are some zoos exhibiting this species :D
 
baboon said:
Hi I don't think ex-situ population is necessary for white-headed langurs because the species's threat has been removed and everything in the wild is going better and better, though I would be happy if there are some zoos exhibiting this species :D
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I still don't know much about this species, however, I would think that even if things currently appear to be moving in a positive direction with in-situ efforts the future is still uncertain for these primates.

I think maintaining ex-situ populations would be a very good idea in case of stochastic events that may occur.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
I still don't know much about this species, however, I would think that even if things currently appear to be moving in a positive direction with in-situ efforts the future is still uncertain for these primates.

I think maintaining ex-situ populations would be a very good idea in case of stochastic events that may occur.
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Yes but it depends on the willings of zoos to keep this species, what I mean is, there should be some zoos to treat them as real treasures rather than "another species of monkey". And the ex-situ program must be planned carefully and managed by responsible leaders or organizations. Thus maybe it is not the right time to do this now.
 
baboon said:
Yes but it depends on the willings of zoos to keep this species, what I mean is, there should be some zoos to treat them as real treasures rather than "another species of monkey". And the ex-situ program must be planned carefully and managed by responsible leaders or organizations. Thus maybe it is not the right time to do this now.
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Yes I agree, that goes without saying.

But do you think that Chinese zoos would not treat well or prioritize this species in someway or would lack responsible leaders / organization to do this ?
 
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baboon said:
Sorry but there are no white-headed langurs in Wuzhou now. Since the zoos are not allowed to catch animals in the wild now, the white-headed langur's disappearing from zoo world is inevitable.
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Are you (also) saying the Specialised Primate Breeding Center here is no longer operating?
Or do you mean they still manage and do conservation breeding with the Francois leaf monkeys (only)?
 
Kifaru Bwana said:
Are you (also) saying the Specialised Primate Breeding Center here is no longer operating?
Or do you mean they still manage and do conservation breeding with the Francois leaf monkeys (only)?
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They only breed Francois langurs now.
 
Onychorhynchus coronatus said:
Yes I agree, that goes without saying.

But do you think that Chinese zoos would not treat well or prioritize this species in someway or would lack responsible leaders / organization to do this ?
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The studbooks of Golden snub-nosed monkey, Francois langur and northern white-cheeked gibbon have just been written and most species in Chinese zoos still don't have studbooks, not to mention population management; thus it may be not the right time to introduce a new species into zoo world ;)
 
baboon said:
The studbooks of Golden snub-nosed monkey, Francois langur and northern white-cheeked gibbon have just been written and most species in Chinese zoos still don't have studbooks, not to mention population management; thus it may be not the right time to introduce a new species into zoo world ;)
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Would you have any idea of the overall numbers of the rarer species in Chinese zoos?
 
baboon said:
The studbooks of Golden snub-nosed monkey, Francois langur and northern white-cheeked gibbon have just been written and most species in Chinese zoos still don't have studbooks, not to mention population management; thus it may be not the right time to introduce a new species into zoo world ;)
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I see what you mean, for some reason I assumed that these things would already be in place and well organized by zoos over there.
 
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