Mixed species enclosures and other changes for Burgers Zoo

Alright, here's an incredibly crazy idea:

What if I make it a tropical Africa house with Okapis and pygmy hippos, and make the bush fully south american
There is an exhibit similar to this at the Bronx zoo it’s called Congo gorilla forest. That is a great way to do an African forest exhibit because it’s dark and you can control the views better
 
Where in the zoo do you want to have this tropical Africa house? Would you also add enclosures of the great apes to this building?

Yes, I meant make a tropical Africa house instead of a great apes house. With outside areas for the apes as well.
Give me a second I'll make a quick sketch
 
Yes, I meant make a tropical Africa house instead of a great apes house. With outside areas for the apes as well.
Give me a second I'll make a quick sketch

Alright, I'm going to look into it more tomorrow morning, but right now I'm going to bed. As you can see by my manner of speech, I am sleepdrunkles and not in a state to do proper research, good night.

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I like the idea, this would also fit in nicely with the ''theme'' of the zoo. This would be another good ecodisplay for Burgers, I look forward to your more detailed plans tomorrow!
 
Alright, I'm going to look into it more tomorrow morning, but right now I'm going to bed. As you can see by my manner of speech, I am sleepdrunkles and not in a state to do proper research, good night.

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You should defentivly put Drils instead Mandrils in the enclosure. they are smaler (need less space, which is allways good) Are unlike Mandrills an endangered species, And is aswell a much less commen species in zoos.

And unrelated, you made a big map of your ideas for the Burgers Zoo, how did you did that ? I would like to do somethink like that with my "totally objective" opinions
 
Alright, I'm going to look into it more tomorrow morning, but right now I'm going to bed. As you can see by my manner of speech, I am sleepdrunkles and not in a state to do proper research, good night.

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and if you theme this kongo area, you should make somethink similar to Rimba.
 
So I took some of the species you talked about and added a few for how I would place the exhibits, It starts on an overlook to look out over the building and then goes down with the river (I felt I needed to clarify that part)
 

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You should defentivly put Drils instead Mandrils in the enclosure. they are smaler (need less space, which is allways good) Are unlike Mandrills an endangered species, And is aswell a much less commen species in zoos.

And unrelated, you made a big map of your ideas for the Burgers Zoo, how did you did that ? I would like to do somethink like that with my "totally objective" opinions
I use speedy painter, I think it just came with my computer though so if you don't have that try bamboo paper. Also, that is if Burger can acquire a drill, as you said they aren't common in zoos so acquiring one could be a problem.
 
I use speedy painter, I think it just came with my computer though so if you don't have that try bamboo paper. Also, that is if Burger can acquire a drill, as you said they aren't common in zoos so acquiring one could be a problem.
17 collections in Europe allone allready keep them, and they breed very succesfully. Compeared to some realy rare animals in Burgers Zoo should drills be quite easey to optain.
 
And unrelated, you made a big map of your ideas for the Burgers Zoo, how did you did that ? I would like to do somethink like that with my "totally objective" opinions

Might sound silly, but I use powerpoint, the colour options for drawings are very similar to the ones on the map. My theory is that the original map was actually created on powerpoint too
 
That is if Burger can acquire a drill, as you said they aren't common in zoos so acquiring one could be a problem.

You can actually check this on ZooTierListe, they keep check on the animal collections of all EAZA countries (All european countries, colony islands, and also some middle eastern countries)
 
So I took some of the species you talked about and added a few for how I would place the exhibits, It starts on an overlook to look out over the building and then goes down with the river (I felt I needed to clarify that part)

I like it, but I'm planning on mixing the duikers with the pygmy hippos, just like they did in the old enclosure.

I can now also move the central African night house there, maybe make a back route with nocturnal animals. And then I can move the South American night house to the old location of the Afican night house
 
Also, I've heard of Okapis mixed with waterbuck, duikers and red river hogs, so could it perhaps be possible to mix the colobus monkeys and okapis together with the blue duikers and pygmy hippos? Or perhaps the red river hogs as well?
 
Also, I've heard of Okapis mixed with waterbuck, duikers and red river hogs, so could it perhaps be possible to mix the colobus monkeys and okapis together with the blue duikers and pygmy hippos? Or perhaps the red river hogs as well?
I would defentivly advice agianst mixing okapis or red river hogs with pygmy hipps (in a "normal sized" enclosure. The risk would be in my opinon be to high. I know of succesfull mixing with antilopes, but the behavior of the hogs and okapi would get get very problematic
 
I literally checked on Zootierliste...

That was for WestCoastPerson, since he seems uncertain about animals being in European collections

I would defentivly advice agianst mixing okapis or red river hogs with pygmy hipps (in a "normal sized" enclosure. The risk would be in my opinon be to high. I know of succesfull mixing with antilopes, but the behavior of the hogs and okapi would get get very problematic

Alright then, so okapis, red river hogs and monkeys together, and pygmy hippos and blue duikers together?
 
Alright, so since I'm making the bush fully South-American, I'm removing all the Asian birds and the otters. I looked up the distribution of the Elephant shrew and the hingeback tortoise, and they appearently live in East Africa. I wanted to move them to Burgers Congo (Still undecided on the title), but appearently they're better suited for the Safari.
My question is, would it be possible to move both the tortoise and the elephant shrew into the galago enclosure in the nile house (Which also still needs a name, since most of the animals there aren't actually from the nile region)

And also, what South American species can fill up the two newly empty enclosures. I was thinking rock cavy for the aardvark enclosure and guinea pigs for the aardvark seperation, but there's no South American otters in European zoos apart from the giant otter, which I think might be too big for the enclosure (Though maybe they can be placed alongside the capybaras? Or otherwise in the pool of the big waterfall, if I add some land parts)
Would a crab-eating raccoon work here?
 
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That was for WestCoastPerson, since he seems uncertain about animals being in European collections



Alright then, so okapis, red river hogs and monkeys together, and pygmy hippos and blue duikers together?

That would work well, pygmy hippos and duikers being allready mixed succesfull together, aswell as okapis and redriver hogs. But you should choose a aboreal species of monkey for this kind of mix.
 
That would work well, pygmy hippos and duikers being allready mixed succesfull together, aswell as okapis and redriver hogs. But you should choose a aboreal species of monkey for this kind of mix.

I'm going for a colobus monkey, as per WestCoastPerson's suggestion
 
Alright, so here's the new plan for the Central African night, it's basically the same apart from the layout and the addition of the senegal bushbaby. Along with that, the aardvark enclosure is now a sort of walkthrough, with very small fences (not sure how to describe it but they're used quite often in walkthroughs and children's zoos). It borders Burger's Congo and exits into it as well. The pangolin enclosure is similar to the Ringtail enclosure with different viewing panels from different angles in different places, similar to the giant living reef, though smaller of course.
I've done it in a way that there's only one animal to view at a time.

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