Mixed species enclosures and other changes for Burgers Zoo

Mr Gharial said:
And also, what South American species can fill up the two newly empty enclosures. I was thinking rock cavy for the aardvark enclosure and guinea pigs for the aardvark seperation, but there's no South American otters in European zoos apart from the giant otter, which I think might be too big for the enclosure (Though maybe they can be placed alongside the capybaras? Or otherwise in the pool of the big waterfall, if I add some land parts)
Would a crab-eating raccoon work here?
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A raccoon would work but it might feel a little out of place, I think I already suggested it but how about a Brazilian Porcupine or Kinkajous, for the smaller exhibit you could include a reptile like a green Iguana.
For the shrew and tortoise yes it could be possible to mix the tortoise with the tortoise exhibit you had planned, the elephant shrew would need a new exhibit though maybe where the bushbaby was.
 
Westcoastperson said:
A raccoon would work but it might feel a little out of place, I think I already suggested it but how about a Brazilian Porcupine or Kinkajous, for the smaller exhibit you could include a reptile like a green Iguana.
For the shrew and tortoise yes it could be possible to mix the tortoise with the tortoise exhibit you had planned, the elephant shrew would need a new exhibit though maybe where the bushbaby was.
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Brazilian porcupines and kinkajous are both nocturnal and are planned for the South American night house.
There's already free-roaming green iguanas in the bush.
I was actually planning to mix them both in with the bushbaby, not the tortoises. Since the tortoises and elephant shrew are both ground dwelling and the bushbaby is almost exclusively arboreal
 
Mr Gharial said:
Brazilian porcupines and kinkajous are both nocturnal and are planned for the South American night house.
There's already free-roaming green iguanas in the bush.
I was actually planning to mix them both in with the bushbaby, not the tortoises. Since the tortoises and elephant shrew are both ground dwelling and the bushbaby is almost exclusively arboreal
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Ok then how about a pond with mata-matas and cane toads and maybe a basilisk lizard
 
Westcoastperson said:
Ok then how about a pond with mata-matas and cane toads and maybe a basilisk lizard
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Mata-matas! Of course!
They're my favourite turtle and I've been trying to fit it in somewhere, but now I can!
Cane toads would be awesome, apart from the fact that they're australian. I have them planned in the outback though
 
Mr Gharial said:
Mata-matas! Of course!
They're my favourite turtle and I've been trying to fit it in somewhere, but now I can!
Cane toads would be awesome, apart from the fact that they're australian. I have them planned in the outback though
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They actually come from central/South America and were introduced into Australia but another great amphibian could be a Rococo Toad
 
Westcoastperson said:
I don't see why not as Mata Matas only eat fish and Rococo toads are docile and Cane toads only eat smaller reptiles
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Great! Now, second question: Would the black hornbills from the bush be able to freely roam in the congo dome? Same for the other African birds from the bush
I'm a little worried about them with the gambian pouched rats and the dwarf mongooses
 
By the way, this is the current map for Burger's Congo, does anyone know of anything to go together with the pouched rats or the drills?

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Mr Gharial said:
Great! Now, second question: Would the black hornbills from the bush be able to freely roam in the congo dome? Same for the other African birds from the bush
I'm a little worried about them with the gambian pouched rats and the dwarf mongooses
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Ya I wouldn't include predatory birds
 
Raplacing burger most iconic and well known area still sounds like a terrible idea. It is both in animal and plant life mostly are asian/african. With the new higglight, the Hornbills aswell being asian. It aswell would reduce the diversity of animal life. For the case of animal welfare/ conservation. But just because you would personally like to make it a diffrent kind of exhibit, doesnt mean it is a good choice
 
GiratinaIsGod said:
Raplacing burger most iconic and well known area still sounds like a terrible idea. It is both in animal and plant life mostly are asian/african. With the new higglight, the Hornbills aswell being asian. It aswell would reduce the diversity of animal life. For the case of animal welfare/ conservation. But just because you would personally like to make it a diffrent kind of exhibit, doesnt mean it is a good choice
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I know, but there's only one Asian enclosure animal left and the birds, though pretty, aren't easily recogniseable as Asian, African, or South American.
I highly doubt they'd take the idea, but what Asian animals could we add to make it Asian and South American?
And the black hornbills in the bush are African, the Wrinkled hornbills in the aviary in the back of the park region are Asian, I'm going to look into the birds of the aviary and their continent of origin when I'm going to visit.
 
Huh, I thought that the Wrinkled hornbills were living in the bush and the Black hornbills in the back of the park?
The black hornbills (Anthracoceros malayanus) are native to Asia and not Africa, unless they keep a different black hornbill species.
 
Mr Gharial said:
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And the black hornbills in the bush are African, the Wrinkled hornbills in the aviary in the back of the park region are Asian, I'm going to look into the birds of the aviary and their continent of origin when I'm going to visit.
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they keep wrinkled hornbill, native to Thailand, Malyasia and Inodnesia at the bush.
The ironic part is that he black hornbill aswell is from south east asia. And what part of the Bush is south american, only the capybara and the caiman. Just 2 enclosures
 
JurassicMax said:
Huh, I thought that the Wrinkled hornbills were living in the bush and the Black hornbills in the back of the park?
The black hornbills (Anthracoceros malayanus) are native to Asia and not Africa, unless they keep a different black hornbill species.
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you are correct in both cases, they keep wrinkled hornbils in the bush, and the black hornbills, they keep (Anthracoceros malayanus) are native to southeast asia. They are even called Malyain Hornbill in german.
 
Mr Gharial said:
I know, but there's only one Asian enclosure animal left and the birds, though pretty, aren't easily recogniseable as Asian, African, or South American.
I highly doubt they'd take the idea, but what Asian animals could we add to make it Asian and South American?
And the black hornbills in the bush are African, the Wrinkled hornbills in the aviary in the back of the park region are Asian, I'm going to look into the birds of the aviary and their continent of origin when I'm going to visit.
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Ok how about Dholes (They aren't known to prey on birds), slow loris, langur, siamang, gibbon, red-crowned crane, Indian Peafowl, tarsier, or tapir if there is space.
 
For my Africa exhibit, would it be safe to cohab a Mbu Puffer and Dwarf Crocodiles? Also what Antarctic seabirds would work with King Penguins and Adelie penguins?
 
Westcoastperson said:
Ok how about Dholes (They aren't known to prey on birds), slow loris, langur, siamang, gibbon, red-crowned crane, Indian Peafowl, tarsier, or tapir if there is space.
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first of all, Burgers Bush has not nay space left for most these species.Dholes, even though not typical bird hunters would still be succeful in epsically hunting the larger birds (ducks, pidgeons hornbills) not even talking about the leguans. Burgers allready had a great Simang and speceled langure enclosures in the asia themed area that was RECENTLY BUILD, Rimba. The red-crowned crain, is lives in the cold nothern parts of asia, not the tropics, trasiers don'T surive in captivity for more than a few weeks. And indian peafowl would be .... very boring. (there would be much better choices in other related species)
 
GiratinaIsGod said:
first of all, Burgers Bush has not nay space left for most these species.Dholes, even though not typical bird hunters would still be succeful in epsically hunting the larger birds (ducks, pidgeons hornbills) not even talking about the leguans. Burgers allready had a great Simang and speceled langure enclosures in the asia themed area that was RECENTLY BUILD, Rimba. The red-crowned crain, is lives in the cold nothern parts of asia, not the tropics, trasiers don'T surive in captivity for more than a few weeks. And indian peafowl would be .... very boring. (there would be much better choices in other related species)
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good points for all but what about the slow loris, my only worry for them would be stress. Here are some more options: Southern Brown Tortoise, Indian Star Tortoise, Lion-Tailed Macaque, Northern Treeshrew, Tufted Deer, Reeves Muntjac, and Giant cloud rat
 
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