Old world monkeys in Latin American zoos
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No, I'm too shy to do that.Did you contact them ?
I'm not sure what a common baboon is
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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I see, but if you are curious you should just send them a message, they wont bite your head off
I have sent a message, but they haven't answered it yet.
Great found, Enzo!
It looks pretty much like a diana monkey. The exhibit doesn't looks great though... I tend to think it's one of the chainlink enclosures in the zoo's primate row (that nowadays keep very few primates).
The baboon species kept at Bauru is Papio hamadryas, the most common in the country.I'm not sure what a common baboon is
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Great find Enzo, well done !
It is very hard to make out because the footage is really grainy but without seeing the chestnut markings that are characteristic of the Diana monkey it is really hard to identify it as such.
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Yeah, it's difficult to see due to the quality of the footage. Once the video is from 2010 and the diana monkey individual living at GYN died in 2011, it must be actually the same individual. I doubt this zoo kept other species of guenon...
I don't think that is a Diana... it is either a Mangabey(most likely- possibly Sooty) or maybe a Green monkey or something like that. Diana would be much sharper blacker/white-looking.
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Colors are too highlighted for a mangabey, and the fur is too dark for a green monkey. The shape of the snout makes me really think it's a diana. Besides that, Goiânia zoo is not the kind of institution that would have many variations of exotic animals. We already know the place kept a single diana monkey until 2011, and I really doubt there was any other kind of guenon or similar species being kept there at this time.
Edit: At the same channel that posted the previous video, there's another one that clearly shows the chesnut marks and we can be almost sure it's actually a diana monkey. Check it out on minute 1:55
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Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Yes, I slowed the 2nd video right down to 0.25 play back speed and the monkey that is shown clinging to the bars appearing from 1:43 minutes onwards is beyond any doubt a Diana monkey.
It has the black fur on its back and up to the head, white fur on throat and chest and the chestnut fur on the thighs and the rump, there is no way it could be any other species.
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Onychorhynchus coronatus
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I agree with you about the footage in the 1st video that Enzo found.
It looks to me like a mangabey far more than a guenon.
The fur is not as striking as a guenon, the face is much longer and lacks the angular lines of the Diana monkey.
Oh yes, that's a Diana no doubt, its not what I looked at in the first video though.
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Yes the first video is almost certainly not a Diana, I would say it is a mangabey but it is really hard to tell even with the footage slowed down.
Not actually, because they mentioned in of the stories that they had a male sacred baboon and a "common baboon" (probably a female), so it may not be a sacred baboon.
Ah, yes, I get it. So I tend to think it's a guinea baboon (Papio papio). It's the nearest we can get from "common baboon".
The individual in the first video may not be the same from the second one... There's always the possibility. I am starting to think it's actually a green monkey, as you said, @Pertinax . It looks darker though, but it could be the illumination at the moment.
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Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Yes, I think it is far more likely to be a green monkey but then the 2nd video definitely shows the Diana monkey.
When did the Diana monkey arrive at the zoo ? It must have been quite an old individual really.
Yeah, the second one was definitely the diana individual that lived there. It was a female that arrived in 1985. She was already an adult, estimated in 10 years at the time, and died in 2011 with an estimated age of 35.
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That is a really good age for a Diana monkey to live to so she must have had been looked after very well.
I know that there have been a couple in Europe that have reached their mid to late 30's in zoos, there was apparently a female for example at one of the Aspinall parks that lived till about 35 too.
Yeah, it was surely a very old individual. I don't know how the zoo estimated her age in 10 when she arrived, but anyway she passed the life expectancy. Her exhibit was not actually what one could call nice, but the methods of handling might have been satisfactory to keep it alive for so many years.