I don't know if it's currently open at the moment, but it was open for times after it opened in July.
Leopard and Goat Farm Private Collection in Cornwall
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Andrew Swales
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Perhaps - but as ThomasNotTom said, it very likely that the species arrivals were planned and organised and funded, (and maybe even happened) well before the pandemic, just as were Twycross' enclosures - hence my comparison. We know very well that such moves can take much longer to plan and execute, than the actual construction work on the enclosures - and once long awaited permits actually do materialise, moves have to be arranged or the opportunity is likely to evaporate.
Yes, as illustrated by the Kobe example, we have to continue to plan assuming we will get through this, rather than roll over and give up.
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R E Pennell
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Sadly it's only a fleeting glimpse!
Todd commented on a instagram post that there are 4 holders of shoebills in Europe correcting the original poster's hashtag claiming that there are three. This might imply that He has shoebills now.
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Good news; shoebills are cool.
Bad news; one more cool rare animal just down the road that I have a minimal chance of seeing!
Yes, I know I'm jealous. Let's be honest, we're all jealous!
Best to wait for confirmation rather than jumping to conclusions mind you!
Let us have fun wildly speculating though!
It's statements like this that give ZooChat a bad name.
I'm sorry. I'll try to be more pious in future.
Then it is now public information then
Sausagefingers
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Bearded saki too, hadn't seen them referenced here before. Nice
Sausagefingers
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Abit of a long one but. From a quick Google search a list of dwa licenses issued in cornwall contains a rough list of what's held with numbers. There are 8 in Cornwall I think we can all agree number 2 sound alike leopard and goat farm. Any ideas on the others?
License list
1.
Ruffed lemurs x3
Lyns x2
Servals x2
2.
Clouded leopard x6
Cheetah x6
Snow leopard x2
Asian golden cat x2
Marbled cat x2
Lynx x2
Yellow throated marten x6
Honey badger x2
Ferret badger x6
Wolverine x2
Red panda x2
Fosa x5
Spotted hyena x2
Brown hyena x3
Sun bear x2
Bush dog x2
Tapir x2
Pygmy hippo x2
Dik Dik x2
Cassowary x4
Lemur or sifaka x6
Gibbon x2
Langar x3
Maned wolf x2
Otter x4
Red backed bearded saki x10
2.
European luna x3
Malayan leopard cat x2
Rusty spotted cat x2
Serval x6
Puma x2
Asian fishing cat x2
Jaguraundi x2
Ocelot x1
Ruffed lemur x2
Ringtail lemur x2
Striped mongoose x2
Yellow mongoose x2
Kusamanse x2
Meerkat x2
4.
Camel x2
5.
Ostrich x4
6.
Serval x2
7.
Camel x4
8.
Adder x3
Zoo licenses in operation are
Monkey sanctuary
Screech owl sanctuary (has 2 separate licences for same address)
Newquay zoo
Cornish seal sanctuary
Porfell
Camel creek
Cornish birds of prey Centre
Blue reef aquarium
Paradise park
I think its interesting that lemur or sifaka is listed unlike the other licenses listing ruffed or ringtail. Perhaps hiding an interesting species? And such a large number of saki.
List was from August 2020 so may not be completely accurate now, and obviously doesn't cover non DWA animals.
License list
1.
Ruffed lemurs x3
Lyns x2
Servals x2
2.
Clouded leopard x6
Cheetah x6
Snow leopard x2
Asian golden cat x2
Marbled cat x2
Lynx x2
Yellow throated marten x6
Honey badger x2
Ferret badger x6
Wolverine x2
Red panda x2
Fosa x5
Spotted hyena x2
Brown hyena x3
Sun bear x2
Bush dog x2
Tapir x2
Pygmy hippo x2
Dik Dik x2
Cassowary x4
Lemur or sifaka x6
Gibbon x2
Langar x3
Maned wolf x2
Otter x4
Red backed bearded saki x10
2.
European luna x3
Malayan leopard cat x2
Rusty spotted cat x2
Serval x6
Puma x2
Asian fishing cat x2
Jaguraundi x2
Ocelot x1
Ruffed lemur x2
Ringtail lemur x2
Striped mongoose x2
Yellow mongoose x2
Kusamanse x2
Meerkat x2
4.
Camel x2
5.
Ostrich x4
6.
Serval x2
7.
Camel x4
8.
Adder x3
Zoo licenses in operation are
Monkey sanctuary
Screech owl sanctuary (has 2 separate licences for same address)
Newquay zoo
Cornish seal sanctuary
Porfell
Camel creek
Cornish birds of prey Centre
Blue reef aquarium
Paradise park
I think its interesting that lemur or sifaka is listed unlike the other licenses listing ruffed or ringtail. Perhaps hiding an interesting species? And such a large number of saki.
List was from August 2020 so may not be completely accurate now, and obviously doesn't cover non DWA animals.
A quick note....just because someone holds a DWA license does not by any means mean they keep the animal. They may just have the license to allow for potential housing of said species. I would take all of the above list that hasn’t been confirmed (ESPECIALLY pygmy hippo
) with a hefty grain of salt...
Sausagefingers
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True but definitely an idea for plans etcA quick note....just because someone holds a DWA license does not by any means mean they keep the animal. They may just have the license to allow for potential housing of said species. I would take all of the above list that hasn’t been confirmed (ESPECIALLY pygmy hippo
Not really the best idea to post wild speculation about the matter however
not only is there the pretty good chance of putting two and two together and making five, but even *if* speculation about future plans/aims was indeed on the money, posting said speculation might well damage the chances of said plans coming to pass; something which applies to private collections much as it does for public collections.
Sausagefingers
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Not really the best idea to post wild speculation about the matter however
Then my point would be don't have the DWA license as they are public record, and considering this was taken from local press and is widely available on the Internet and has been since August I haven't really done anything.
Having the licence implies they either have the animals, have had the animals or are in thr process of obtaining the animals.
And posts on this site seem to be 70% 1st hand accounts 30% speculation, fantasy or back handed comments so I'm not exactly shattering the glass even if I was posting wild speculation.
This is incredible news. I saw a Shoebill in Zurich and was mesmerised by it. Wonderful birds!
Pootle
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How is this private collection funded? He can’t have a money tree or bush as they are long extinct, so how does he keep all these animals, pay keepers wages, any other staff possibly involved and not have the public paying to visit? I know there may be grants for bits and bobs etc, (these will be very small I guess if even offered). Is he very wealthy, or what is it about this rather intriguing situation that keeps these animals fed, housed and in health?
I believe he made a lot of money in the growing "insect chocolate" industry and other such artisan foods - and continues to do so, hence the non-zoological aspect of his current site and the existence of a farm shop selling his wares nearby.