Goldman's Jaguar/North American Jaguar?

Westcoastperson

Westcoastperson

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Does anybody know anything about Goldman's Jaguar. The only info I have found is that Cameron Park zoo has them and that they live in Central and North America. I'm slightly confused by it's taxonomical existence so if anybody has any information on them that would be great.
 
How common are they in the wild? I would expect that they would struggle in more arid areas and that competition with Pumas would be particularly bad in North America.
 
Westcoastperson said:
Does anybody know anything about Goldman's Jaguar. The only info I have found is that Cameron Park zoo has them and that they live in Central and North America. I'm slightly confused by it's taxonomical existence so if anybody has any information on them that would be great.
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goldmani is the Yucatan Jaguar, supposedly restricted to the Yucatan Peninsula south through Belize to Honduras. I have not heard of it being combined as being North American as well.

The North American subspecies have been arizonensis, hernandesii, and veraecrucis (the latter two combined with the first since the 1930s), while in the rest of Central America there has been centralis (south to Colombia).

However, as noted by the others above, subspecies are not generally recognised for Jaguar today. Especially in the North and Central American region there is no basis for separating populations as subspecies.
 
Chlidonias said:
goldmani is the Yucatan Jaguar, supposedly restricted to the Yucatan Peninsula south through Belize to Honduras. I have not heard of it being combined as being North American as well.

The North American subspecies have been arizonensis, hernandesii, and veraecrucis (the latter two combined with the first since the 1930s), while in the rest of Central America there has been centralis (south to Colombia).

However, as noted by the others above, subspecies are not generally recognised for Jaguar today. Especially in the North and Central American region there is no basis for separating populations as subspecies.
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Ok that cleared up the history of Jaguar subspecies although is there any reason why there were so many different classifications even though they had no basis for separation?
 
Westcoastperson said:
Ok that cleared up the history of Jaguar subspecies although is there any reason why there were so many different classifications even though they had no basis for separation?
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Well you're going back 120 years. There were different ideas on speciation then, they used geographical (and political) boundaries, minor physical differences, etc, and they had no genetic testing obviously.

What we can say now about taxa separation is not equivalent to what they knew or understood over a century ago.
 
chaotic_froggie said:
They don’t tend to share territory, and Pumas are a lot more suited to more arid areas than Jaguars.
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It's partly true, at least for Central America. I quote from Wainwright's "The mammals of Costa Rica":

The puma seems at first glance to fill a feeding niche similar to that of the jaguar. When two apparently like animals occur together, however, there are generally subtle ecological differences between them. ( ) In some regions, pumas seems to prefer higher, drier ground than do jaguars, or to avoid areas with high densities of jaguars. Several studies suggest that, when pumas and jaguars occur together, pumas tend to take less large prey.
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