Roger Williams' ladies are my home elephants, and I'm really confused at what "fantastic care" they have that isn't standard practice in the AZA. There Exhibit isn't bad, but it's definitely not something to brag about. Have you seen the elephant Exhibits at National Zoo, Dallas, Houston, OKC, DAK, Cleveland, Los Angeles, and/or San Diego? All of these zoos, some of which I've seen some of which I haven't, have elephant exhibits in a whole different league as Roger Williams- plus equally good "care"Iove Roger Williams because of their fantastic animal care
Ive talked to the keepers their before and they truly care about the elephants and how happy they areRoger Williams' ladies are my home elephants, and I'm really confused at what "fantastic care" they have that isn't standard practice in the AZA. There Exhibit isn't bad, but it's definitely not something to brag about. Have you seen the elephant Exhibits at National Zoo, Dallas, Houston, OKC, DAK, Cleveland, Los Angeles, and/or San Diego? All of these zoos, some of which I've seen some of which I haven't, have elephant exhibits in a whole different league as Roger Williams- plus equally good "care"
Have you seen these? What is it about each that makes you rate them so highly?I think that Cleveland, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and St louis have some of the best ones
With all due respect, I don't think that caring about the elephants is something that stands out about Roger Williams. I've talked with Buttonwood's keepers once and they also really care about their elephants- and I wouldn't call their habitat one of the best, far from it. Every zoo professional I've met cares deeply about every animal in their collection, from the smallest gecko to the largest elephant. There is nothing about Roger Williams' animal care or exhibitry that sets it above any other zoo mentioned in the thread.Ive talked to the keepers their before and they truly care about the elephants and how happy they are
ok thats fairWith all due respect, I don't think that caring about the elephants is something that stands out about Roger Williams. I've talked with Buttonwood's keepers once and they also really care about their elephants- and I wouldn't call their habitat one of the best, far from it. Every zoo professional I've met cares deeply about every animal in their collection, from the smallest gecko to the largest elephant. There is nothing about Roger Williams' animal care or exhibitry that sets it above any other zoo mentioned in the thread.
I think that indianapolis has got to be one of the best. Right?For me, naturality is a key component of an exhibit. This would be why I am personally not a fan of San Diego's exhibit. For African Elephants, I would rank Birmingham, Cleveland, DAK, Dallas, Fresno, North Carolina, Omaha, and Wichita at the top. Atlanta, Indianapolis, and Tucson coming in close seconds. There are not as many 'natural' Asian Elephant exhibits, but some of my favorites are Denver, Fort Worth(what I've seen of Elephant Springs), Houston, OKC, Oregon, Saint Louis, and the Smithsonian.
I agree. I dont understand why bronx gets so much hate for their elephantsOf the elephant exhibits I've seen, in terms of African elephants I would highly rank Disney's Animal Kingdom, North Carolina, Miami and San Diego Zoo Safari Park. All take a highly naturalistic approach (San Diego Zoo Safari Park doesn't necessarily reflect the natural ecosystem of African elephants given a massive stand of eucalyptus trees), but the former three have differing takes on immersion, particularly in East Africa. In terms of Asian elephants, I would say Bronx and Miami are tied as the best I've seen, alongside San Diego's Elephant Odyssey. Bronx and Miami win in terms of naturalism, San Diego wins in terms of having purpose-built facilities for aging elephants. (I still think San Diego should switch to a bachelor herd of elephants and mix all of the hoofstock in with the elephants as per the original plan).
the only one here that I have been to is San diego. I have heard a lot of good things about St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland. All three of these facilities have very large exhibits and two of them are fairly new(Pittsburgh,Cleveland)Have you seen these? What is it about each that makes you rate them so highly?
(I like to understand how people evaluate exhibits)
So it is size you are responding to?the only one here that I have been to is San diego. I have heard a lot of good things about St. Louis, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland. All three of these facilities have very large exhibits and two of them are fairly new(Pittsburgh,Cleveland)