Zoo d'Amneville Amneville zoo news

Amneville has changed ownership after coming very close to bankruptcy (before the covid19 crisis). Based on an interview posted on leszoosdanslemonde.com it seems that the new owner wants to get back into EAZA and will discontinue the tiger shows. The show arena will likely be used for other performances (theaters, concerts etc.).
 
Great day : the zoo announce the end of the tiger show. The Tiger World building will be no more in the zoo visit. They are looking for a partner to use it as an event center.
But there will be new tigers exhibits to better show tigers life.
 
Antoine said:
Great day : the zoo announce the end of the tiger show. The Tiger World building will be no more in the zoo visit. They are looking for a partner to use it as an event center.
But there will be new tigers exhibits to better show tigers life.
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A major step forward, I do believe.

Does this also mean the end of "white" (mutant Bengal/Siberian) tigers?
That would be an added bonus!
 
@Kifaru Bwana I don't believe in Santa Claus nor St Nikolau so I don't think it will be the case. I think it will be difficult for them to relocate all the hybrid tigers in other parks. Another step could be just stop breeding these hybrid tigers !
 
Antoine said:
@Kifaru Bwana I don't believe in Santa Claus nor St Nikolau so I don't think it will be the case. I think it will be difficult for them to relocate all the hybrid tigers in other parks. Another step could be just stop breeding these hybrid tigers !
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Shame on you (for being a non-believer)! :rolleyes:

Could it be they are about to get re-accepted into EAZA (or that this move was somehow triggered by EAZA doubling down on them)?
 
While I can see some advantages in behavioral enrichment by doing such tiger shows, I also prefer that they will end at Zoo Amnéville, because this gain can not equalize or even top the risk of (deadly) accidents for the trainers. Also, as much as I like tigers as a species, breeding hybrids in any color should have been stopped many decades before. It is absolutely incomprehensible that this still happen at Amnéville or any other zoo. However: Even with an immediate breeding stop we have to care for the hybrids as good as possible for the rest of their lives.
 
zoomaniac said:
While I can see some advantages in behavioral enrichment by doing such tiger shows, I also prefer that they will end at Zoo Amnéville, because this gain can not equalize or even top the risk of (deadly) accidents for the trainers. Also, as much as I like tigers as a species, breeding hybrids in any color should have been stopped many decades before. It is absolutely incomprehensible that this still happen at Amnéville or any other zoo. However: Even with an immediate breeding stop we have to care for the hybrids as good as possible for the rest of their lives.
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I totally agree with you. I even go so far as to say that the breeding of white tigers is cruelty to animals. Unfortunately, EAZA does not see the need to stop this within its members. This association loses some of its credibility, especially since it has tolerated the circus shows with elephants, e.g. in Hanover and Whipsnade, for decades. Only the tiger show in Amnveille was enough for the EAZa to exclude the zoo Amneveille - why not whipsnade for his elephant show ? I watched the tiger show in Amneville. I'm not a fan of wildlife in the circus-but I have no problem with the dressage of wild animals, even in the zoo-as long as it is done in a way that is not detrimental to the animal. This was the case in Amneville. The performance was absolutely in order, as was the keeping of the animals after the show. When I look at how the great Hagenbeck Zoo still keeps its lions today....or the elphants....both still tolerated by EAZA. Why doesn't the EAZ actually exclude those zoos that have a bird of prey show in their program and the birds have to live tied to poles ? This is cruelty to animals per excellence...It was absolutely irresponsible of Amneville to allow direct contact between humans and tigers.
 
Tromso, the last polar bear in Amnéville died last March 4th at the age of 34 years.
We don't know what will arrive to the enclosure. I doubt they could welcome other polar bears in it as the enclosure is too small and not suitable regarding new standards and the zoo is not EAZA member at the moment.

Better news, birth of cotton top tamarins twins February 19th :)
 
Sad news about the polar bear indeed. However, the exhibit itself isn't that bad imo. A little on the small side maybe, but well structured with (at least partial) natural substrate. Leaving the fact of the missing (but of course important) EAZA membership aside, I think it should be possible to extent the exhibit (maybe on cost of the enclosure of the Amur tigers, who could be placed anywhere else in the zoo) for a future polar bear holding.
 
Amneville, imo, has one of the better polar bear exhibits in Europe. Many exhibits in Amneville are above average to among the best for this species in Europe - quite to the opposite of the often vilified zoo.
 
@zoomaniac @Jurek7 It's a joke about polar bear enclosure ? If not, I think you must come back to see it again. There is nothing, absolutely nothing good there. The size is good for a small cat, there is electric fence everywhere with some piece of natural land (vegetation, trees...), no second enclosure (it was turn in an aviary and now a. inturong enclosure) and the bears have just view on wall and glass. This is just a jail.

I suggest you to go to CERZA and le Reynou to see what are real polar bears exhibits.
 
Actually it wasn't a joke, although I must confess that it is a couple of years ago since I have visited Zoo d'Amnéville for the last time and I obviously did not knew about the reduction of the exhibit. So no objection on this to people who are closer to this institution.
BTW: As you wrote with your examples of CERZA and Reynou there are always better examples. But there are always worser too - and that's what I meant here with "it isn't that bad".
 
Antoine said:
@zoomaniac @Jurek7 I This is just a jail.

Doesn't it fit - didn't you know that animals in zoos live in captivity? And what is the conclusion from this: zoo = captivity = prison (or jail house):)

Yes, the polar bear enclosure in Amneville is really not a hit, but it is not much worse than the two much too small rock chunks for polar bears in the two Berlin jailhouses or Hagenbeck, which is only 9 years old-and let's not talk about the Wilhelma Polar bear "exhibit", now used for a single cheetah...THIS was a bear prison..;) By the way, there is a second exhibit in Amneville , but the last time I was there it was used for waterfowl...:).I hope "Tromso" doesn't end up in the dump ?;)
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