Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Yes, totally agree, both extremes are bad and it is important to maintain that middle ground where we can view and debate things openly and constructively.
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Yes, totally agree, both extremes are bad and it is important to maintain that middle ground where we can view and debate things openly and constructively.
Yeah, I’m the end it’s two groups of people at opposite ends of the same spectrum.
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Yes and neither wants to listen to the other which makes dialogue impossible and I think that is a shame as we do need open dialogue.
Exactly.
Biting my lip or tongue.
My first grade librarian thought tigers were female lions...
Your joking, right? I mean the average citizen who has barely any animal knowledge would not think that.
Nope...
I have a similar view but I also feel zoos are vital in inspiring the next group of conservationists. I developed my love for animals from tv but nothing made me more determined to study, care and conserve animals than when I first saw a gorilla in person. Just my opinion
My Maths teacher showed us a video about an Orca attack at SeaWorld to pass the time and laughed at how a ‘stupid’ student in his previous class had tried telling him how Orcas are a member of the dolphin family.
When was this?
The video was probably of the infamous attack that occurred in 2006 with Kasatka and Ken Peters. The fact that Kasatka eventually let him go, and that Ken was an exceptional diver were the main reasons why Ken survived.
Even at my school, we watched the video of this incident a few years ago and were asked to write about Orcas and their health in captivity. My teacher believed that Orcas should be released back into the wild. There are many reasons that I believe, why this can't really happen.
Oh boy, I saw the video. In regards to releasing the orcas, that's another conversation.The video was probably of the infamous attack that occurred in 2006 with Kasatka and Ken Peters. The fact that Kasatka eventually let him go, and that Ken was an exceptional diver were the main reasons why Ken survived.
Even at my school, we watched the video of this incident a few years ago and were asked to write about Orcas and their health in captivity. My teacher believed that Orcas should be released back into the wild. There are many reasons that I believe, why this can't really happen.
Oh boy, I saw the video. In regards to releasing the orcas, that's another conversation.
Yeah, the video was pretty tough to watch. It's a credit to Ken that he survived that ordeal.
No, it was an incident at the same park two weeks prior. It involved an Orca named Orkid, who dragged a trainer underwater during a show.
What’s amazing about this video is how many people in the crowd were oblivious to what happened. The show carried on, the music kept playing; and when rescued by the other trainers (including Ken Peters) distracting Orkid, the injured trainer just quietly limped off stage:
It's nerve wracking watching him smack the water (to recall Orkid) and seeing if she'll respond!
You'd also think two serious incidents would have made them rethink their interactions with Orca. And that's two we're aware of. There's surely many others not online. It took the 2010 incident/death to make a change.
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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I have a similar view but I also feel zoos are vital in inspiring the next group of conservationists. I developed my love for animals from tv but nothing made me more determined to study, care and conserve animals than when I first saw a gorilla in person. Just my opinion
I agree with you that they do inspire the next generation of conservationists.
I know that they have inspired me at times in my life and good zoos continue to do so.
That said, I do occupy the middle ground with regards to zoos.
My stance is pretty simple really, in essence good decent zoos that contribute to conservation and education are great IMO and bad zoos that don't and claim to can go **** themselves.
The 2010 death was completely different. It involved Tilikum, a non waterwork whale, who pulled his trainer in when she was only in ankle deep water (known as a slideout).
In previous incidents such as the two that occurred in 2006, with Orkid and Kasatka, both whales were removed from waterwork following these events.
Orkid is a very smart Killer Whale, and it is widely believed she was just playing around with Brian, as he presented her with an opportunity to grab his foot, and she took it before eventually let him go. Even so, it was determined an incident like this couldn't occur again with her again, and she was removed from waterwork.
In the Kasatka incident, it is believed she was aggravated at the fact she was separated from her young two year old calf, Kalia for the performance. Kalia was apparently releasing distressed vocals throughout the whole performance, and Kastaka, who was known to have very strong bonds with her calves, eventually cracked and took her anger out on Ken in a very unfortunate way.
The 2006 incident involving Kasatka was also a result of Seaworld not having enough Killer Whales to perform. At the time, San Deigo had 7 Killer Whales; two were banned from waterwork (Ulises and Orkid), two were rather young (Nakai and Kalia) and three were waterworks performers (Corky, Kasatka and Sumar). On this day, Corky was rested from high duty performances after being heavily raked by Kasatka. This left Kasatka and Sumar to perform the majority of the show, and meant more time Kasatka was separated from her calf. With more and more whales being removed from waterwork, more whales were put under the immense pressure to constantly perform and this may be one of the other reasons why Kasatka cracked on that day in 2006.
Well said
Onychorhynchus coronatus
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Well said
Thank you but I think I shouldn't have actually phrased it so bluntly in that way, lol.