Columbus Zoo and Aquarium Columbus Zoo May Lose AZA Accreditation

Does anyone think this loss of accreditation says anything about future accreditation cycles? Are we going to start hearing about more losses of accreditation as AZA doubles down on it's own rules or is Columbus Zoo and Safari West a one-off incident?
 
Really weird that they throw Jack under the bus, but try to make light of the financial stuff.

The part about Jack:


The part about the financial stuff:
Yes that did seem like Jack was sort of “fed to the wolves” so to speak regarding where the animals acquired for shows or media appearances were from. Although he isn’t named, it’s does seem whom they are referring to. And it is rather brushed away about their financial losses due to their leadership, which somehow they’re trying to make the lesser of two evils at least in my opinion.

From my impression of people on Twitter, it appears that many aren’t happy with the lack of transparency and even in some replies that they are deserving of their loss of accreditation. Also indicating that the zoo needs to do more for animal welfare to be accredited again and be more forthcoming with their members base. And it appears to be either members or dedicated followers of the zoo, not just random AR activists so far.
 
I'm not sure if they are making light of anything. They admit fault in both regards. I think they just needed to explain the animal related charges because that is what most people are going to latch onto.

But one only goes against their personal policies, and they gave multiple paragraphs explaining it in detail and singling out one person (who everyone knows they're talking about). For the other, which is the reason they lost AZA, they gave a short paragraph that's extremely vague and mentions nothing about what happened ("mistakes") or who was responsible.
 
Does anyone think this loss of accreditation says anything about future accreditation cycles? Are we going to start hearing about more losses of accreditation as AZA doubles down on it's own rules or is Columbus Zoo and Safari West a one-off incident?

I'm not sure what you mean. There's an average of one loss a year, with none last year because of Covid. The Safari West one has been building for years, and the Columbus one is a huge scandal. They're both one off incidents.
 
That's hilarious, that Cbus had a stance on how non-AZA accredited institutions should operate, but now they don't think that those ideas should apply to themselves.
Not to mention, didn’t Cbus push for the regulation in Ohio that only allowed AZA zoos and GFAS sanctuaries to keep dangerous wild animals (and night monkeys and tamarins)? I would find it hilarious if law enforcement took away Cbus’s dangerous animals bc of a law Hanna and Cbus zoo pushed.
 
Not to mention, didn’t Cbus push for the regulation in Ohio that only allowed AZA zoos and GFAS sanctuaries to keep dangerous wild animals (and night monkeys and tamarins)? I would find it hilarious if law enforcement took away Cbus’s dangerous animals bc of a law Hanna and Cbus zoo pushed.
Why night monkeys and tamarins? What is it about these that dictates only AZA/GFAS facilities housing them? I agree it would be ironic and funny if they lose animals due to this.
 
Why night monkeys and tamarins? What is it about these that dictates only AZA/GFAS facilities housing them? I agree it would be ironic and funny if they lose animals due to this.

I might need to understand your question and the law a bit better. But I will give you this instead.

OH - Exotic - Chapter 935. Dangerous Wild Animals and Restricted Snakes | Animal Legal & Historical Center

I had a hard time going to the Ohio Department of Agriculture's website probably because I am using Turkish internet so Michigan state University is the best out ther right now.

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I may have misinterpreted the claims of owl monkeys and tamarins being banned. I see most people claiming that the animals in division (C)20 are banned, but it seeems like south American primates are not banned. However marmosets and capuchins are not on the list so the ban is still laughable for calling marmosets dangerous.


If you check section 935.03 division (B), you will see that the only exhibitors exempt from section 935.04 are AZA zoos and circuses (which sounds stupid).

Feel free to correct me
 

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I might need to understand your question and the law a bit better. But I will give you this instead.

OH - Exotic - Chapter 935. Dangerous Wild Animals and Restricted Snakes | Animal Legal & Historical Center

I had a hard time going to the Ohio Department of Agriculture's website probably because I am using Turkish internet so Michigan state University is the best out ther right now.

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I may have misinterpreted the claims of owl monkeys and tamarins being banned. I see most people claiming that the animals in division (C)20 are banned, but it seeems like south American primates are not banned. However marmosets and capuchins are not on the list so the ban is still laughable for calling marmosets dangerous.


If you check section 935.03 division (B), you will see that the only exhibitors exempt from section 935.04 are AZA zoos and circuses (which sounds stupid).

Feel free to correct me
Not to mention, didn’t Cbus push for the regulation in Ohio that only allowed AZA zoos and GFAS sanctuaries to keep dangerous wild animals (and night monkeys and tamarins)? I would find it hilarious if law enforcement took away Cbus’s dangerous animals bc of a law Hanna and Cbus zoo pushed.
According to the link, it appears ZAA zoos are also exempt. If necessary to continue keeping these animals, Columbus Zoo could join the ZAA with relative ease. I do agree that it's laughable tamarins are considered dangerous but capuchins not.
 
The species in section 20 are excluded from the “dangerous animal” list. So capuchins are considered dangerous but tamarins are not.
 
The species in section 20 are excluded from the “dangerous animal” list. So capuchins are considered dangerous but tamarins are not.
I did acknowledge that what I heard in the past is wrong. But it is still rather silly to claim that a howler monkey is less dangerous than a marmoset.
 
Just posted on their Twitter page, the following message and link attached to post:

ACCREDITATION UPDATE: Columbus Zoo and Aquarium’s leadership team, including new CEO/President Tom Schmid, are preparing for an appeal hearing with the Association of Zoos and Aquarium (AZA) Board of Directors. Please also read the FAQs on our website: Columbus Zoo and Aquarium - Frequently Asked Questions
 
That makes me feel better about the new leadership after the removal of accreditation made me deeply disappointed in the zoo. Although, while technically true and they still seem ashamed of it, the mention that the non-AZA animal acquisitions are not illegal makes me feel a little sick to my stomach. Like, they could have worded that a way that didn't come across as "its legal so it's not that bad".
 
Ouch. Wonder if they'll lose any animals from this or if nobody will care due to their otherwise decent standing.
They answer this in the FAQs. Basically they are applying to be an AZA sustainability partner to continue working with SSPs and they are working with the state government to remain compliant with any laws that limit species they may be holding.
 
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