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Gorilla Lomako will be moving to a different European zoo to become a breeding male. This leaves Shomari, Tebogo, and Indigo as the only gorillas in Pairi Daiza. The zoo in question will be announced soon.

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GreatApeFan7 said:
Gorilla Lomako will be moving to a different European zoo to become a breeding male. This leaves Shomari, Tebogo, and Indigo as the only gorillas in Pairi Daiza. The zoo in question will be announced soon.

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Three gorillas for two volcano islands sounds quite spacious haha.
Is there any info if a new group will move in? Or will (one of) the islands be used for different species?
 
Anubite said:
Three gorillas for two volcano islands sounds quite spacious haha.
Is there any info if a new group will move in? Or will (one of) the islands be used for different species?
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Given that there is an issue with finding space for male gorillas, I presume new individuals will probably move in at some point.

I don't know which island is now empty of gorillas, but that island would still house either black crested mangabeys or mantled colobus.
 
KevinB said:
Given that there is an issue with finding space for male gorillas, I presume new individuals will probably move in at some point.

I don't know which island is now empty of gorillas, but that island would still house either black crested mangabeys or mantled colobus.
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In the write-up about Lomako moving it does indicate they will get fresh gorillas in due course, as designated by the EEP. Presumably more males, though I know they would like a male/female group as well.

Lomako lives(or did) with the two younger males Indigo and Tebogo. Shomari was in the other volcano group now reduced by Wazungu's departure and Dayo's death, to just him. So (afaik) after Lomako leaves, there will be a single adult male(Shomari) living in one volcano and the two younger ones In the other. Maybe they will then try to combine them, leaving one volcano free for new incomers. Depends on what new gorillas they get I guess.
 
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Pertinax said:
In the write-up about Lomako moving it does indicate they will get fresh gorillas in due course, as designated by the EEP. Presumably more males, though I know they would like a male/female group as well.*
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* Now seems likely they will get a male/female group with male Nasibu from Rotterdam heading it- according to Director of Rotterdam Zoo anyway. Lomako still has not left yet, at least to my knowledge.
 
Shruikan said:
Completely ridiculous, they could have used the money they used for this(I guess it wasn't cheap) to improve some exhibits, but instead they put more bears in an exhibit that has already enough of them
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Or otherwise to invest in a bear species with conservation importance, like Andean, Sun or Ussuri black bears. Though I agree that several exhibits deserve/need an upgrade or a complete replacement, both new and older (still <15 years old in most cases).
 
there is a chance/rumour that Pairi Daiza will just be handing out a few of the surplus males to other zoos within EU so that american black bears can get more common around here.
 
Anubite said:
there is a chance/rumour that Pairi Daiza will just be handing out a few of the surplus males to other zoos within EU so that american black bears can get more common around here.
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And why would there be need to make American black bears more common in Europe? They aren't that rare looking at the number of zoos that keep them. And it is not like they are substantially more interesting than or notably distinct from other large bears. And it is not a species of great conservation concern, they are actually generally doing quite well.
 
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Anubite said:
there is a chance/rumour that Pairi Daiza will just be handing out a few of the surplus males to other zoos within EU so that american black bears can get more common around here.
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As they did with the two bears imported from the USA two years ago? Spoiler, they still have them. I see no other reason to get them other than that the owner wants a larger group of bears.
 
KevinB said:
And why would there be need to make American black bears more common in Europe? It is not like they are substantially more interesting than or notably distinct from other large bears. And it is not a species of great conservation concern, they are actually generally doing quite well.
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@KevinB, more often than not I find the decision making at PD augmenting the animal collection supercedes any concerns with animal welfare or husbandry. Now, the import of American bears to Europe flies in the face of concerns for bear species of greater conservation importance.


NOTA BENE (but not strictly relevant in a European zoo thread): Allthough one has to admit that American bear species by definition cannot be regarded as safe populations either. There is too much push and shove in policy making where predators is concerned in the US (unsure how this pans out in Canada) and the importance in the ecological framework of keeping ecosystems healthy.

You only have to look at the evidence with red wolf, Mexican wolf, brown and black bears in general and the Yellowstone and other wolf reintroductions and how these are policied and enforced by US FWS. Quite recently the US FWS got challenged on both their ineffective recovery efforts and areas of operation for red wolf and Mexican wolf that have allowed both species to be hunted while their populations were under recovery scheme and allowed to be hunted when numbers were still critically low. For both taxa their numbers remain far and wide far below any sustainable population levels.

F.I.: The phenomenon of coyote hunting would not exist if the wolf would be back in the wider forest ecosystem in the US as it outcompetes the replete numbers of coyotes and by outcompeting these significantly reduces predation by the coyotes on threatened species like pronghorn antelope (particularly the calves) and an important factor in disallowing beaver or otter to colonise water streams.
 
vogelcommando said:
Paira Daiza made their newest project public : an Tropical Amazone-hal, 4 hectares large and 23 meters high, the biggest tropical hal in the world. Should be finished 2024 and costs .... 100 milion Euros.
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Well that's certainly very large. Wonder what species that will be held there.
 
It's been 15 days since PD announced it but Sumatran orangutans Julia and Moli have arrived from Budapest, increasing the population to eight.

vogelcommando said:
Squirrel monkeys and other small monkey species, lots of birds, manatees among others
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I do recall asking a similar question last year but if the small south American monkeys (and maybe the other South American animals such as the birds and the capybaras) move to the dome, what will happen to the islands on the Land of origins and the exhibits in Cambron abbey that used to hold these species?
 
PossumRoach said:
It's been 15 days since PD announced it but Sumatran orangutans Julia and Moli have arrived from Budapest, increasing the population to eight.

I do recall asking a similar question last year but if the small south American monkeys (and maybe the other South American animals such as the birds and the capybaras) move to the dome, what will happen to the islands on the Land of origins and the exhibits in Cambron abbey that used to hold these species?
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On the Dutch Laafsekikkers forum there has been talk of turning those areas into a Japanese area (or a world as Pairi Daiza calls their section) in the future.

There are currently already no monkey islands left in Cambron Abbey, all monkey islands are in The Land of Origins or around the Mersus Emergo.
 
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