South African Turaco Species in Captivity

Jaguar_X

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I was wondering how common South African Turaco Species are in the rest of the world, these include:
•Knysna Turaco
•Livingstone Turaco
•Purple-crested Turaco
•Grey-go-away Bird
Over here they are quite common, well at least the first 3, but you need a permit to keep them since they are native.
 
In the US, Knysna is non existent. *maybe* One or two very old individuals left in private collections, if that. Livingstone’s has become increasingly well-established over the past five years, to the point where they are probably the fourth most populous Turaco in the US, with the population as likely pushing close to 100 birds now. Purple crested there is two or three birds in zoos, and two or three more in private hands. Unfortunately the population is probably destined to disappear within the next 10 years, unless some serious work goes into zoos and private individuals cooperating, and even then, it might be too late. For the go away birds, totally nonexistent in the US.
 
In Europe, the first is present, but the population isn’t large. The middle to are both well established and not going anywheres. The last is present, but the population is small and does not breed very regularly.
 
Livingstone’s has become increasingly well-established over the past five years, to the point where they are probably the fourth most populous Turaco in the US, with the population as likely pushing close to 100 birds now

Do you have a source for this? I'm a big turaco fan, but I thought the most common species were Red-crested, Violet, Lady Ross, and White-cheeked, followed by the Great Blue, White-crested, and Persa Turacos. Didn't realize Livingston's were common.
 
Do you have a source for this? I'm a big turaco fan, but I thought the most common species were Red-crested, Violet, Lady Ross, and White-cheeked, followed by the Great Blue, White-crested, and Persa Turacos. Didn't realize Livingston's were common.

I think Livingston's are present (common?) for a turaco in the private trade? I've seen them listed for sale a number of times. All the species you've listed I've seen much more often in zoos here.

~Thylo
 
I don’t have a credible source, beyond my involvement with the species in the private trade.

In terms of zoo populations, it’s definitely violet, red crested, white cheeked, great blue, and lady Ross by a fairly significant portion. All other represented species likely number under 10-15 individuals for the most part.

In private hands, however, it’s a bit of a different story. White Cheeked, Red Crested, and Guinea are by far the most common. Violet is fairly well established, but has seen a slight decline in breeding in recent years. They’re likely the most genetically diverse population, however. Lady Ross is present, but numbers aren’t stellar and the majority of production occurs from one breeder. Livingstone’s have likely outnumbered lady Ross in population over the past year or two thanks to several different people having success with the species, and are demographically strong; but genetics are poor, the founder population is effectively 5-6 birds at best. Great Blue are slowly gaining in numbers, but it’s limited primarily to one breeder and the founder base is small, but mainly wild caught birds. Another fun fact about the blue turaco is that I’m set to potentially become the first holder of them in Canada, if things everything goes according to plan. Nothing is set in stone yet, but my hopes are high about this one!

The white crested population has been stagnating over the past several years, although there has been a small surge of breeding success over the past year. However the population is demographically poor, with the majority of birds being very old, and it’s also quite inbred at this point.

Western gray plantain eaters are still present in the hobby as they were imported in very large numbers over over the past 10 years, however breeding success has been very, very poor with them, and unless there’s a concentrated effort to breed and secure the population, it will likely be all but vanished within the next 10 to 15 years.

Fischers are around and gradually growing a number, but the founding population is small, and same thing, only one breeder in the private hobby is really working with them. However they’ve been having enough success that they’ve finally been able to start distributing birds to other breers, so this small population will likely do well and grow as long as it is managed effectively.

Purple crested are functionally extinct. I’m only aware of two individual birds in private hands, an upper middle aged female in Florida, and a very old male held in… I think California? Plus a male at San Antonio zoo, and an individual at discovery Cove.

White belly go away birds are struggling but have the potential to make a come back. None in private hands, but San Diego and Houston still hold the species.

There might be one or two individuals of other species still living in the states (knysna, black billed, hartlaubs), but if there are, they are very, very old birds, and are essentially living relics from populations have long since become non-viable.
 
I don’t have a credible source, beyond my involvement with the species in the private trade.

In terms of zoo populations, it’s definitely violet, red crested, white cheeked, great blue, and lady Ross by a fairly significant portion. All other represented species likely number under 10-15 individuals for the most part.

In private hands, however, it’s a bit of a different story. White Cheeked, Red Crested, and Guinea are by far the most common. Violet is fairly well established, but has seen a slight decline in breeding in recent years. They’re likely the most genetically diverse population, however. Lady Ross is present, but numbers aren’t stellar and the majority of production occurs from one breeder. Livingstone’s have likely outnumbered lady Ross in population over the past year or two thanks to several different people having success with the species, and are demographically strong; but genetics are poor, the founder population is effectively 5-6 birds at best. Great Blue are slowly gaining in numbers, but it’s limited primarily to one breeder and the founder base is small, but mainly wild caught birds. Another fun fact about the blue turaco is that I’m set to potentially become the first holder of them in Canada, if things everything goes according to plan. Nothing is set in stone yet, but my hopes are high about this one!

The white crested population has been stagnating over the past several years, although there has been a small surge of breeding success over the past year. However the population is demographically poor, with the majority of birds being very old, and it’s also quite inbred at this point.

Western gray plantain eaters are still present in the hobby as they were imported in very large numbers over over the past 10 years, however breeding success has been very, very poor with them, and unless there’s a concentrated effort to breed and secure the population, it will likely be all but vanished within the next 10 to 15 years.

Fischers are around and gradually growing a number, but the founding population is small, and same thing, only one breeder in the private hobby is really working with them. However they’ve been having enough success that they’ve finally been able to start distributing birds to other breers, so this small population will likely do well and grow as long as it is managed effectively.

Purple crested are functionally extinct. I’m only aware of two individual birds in private hands, an upper middle aged female in Florida, and a very old male held in… I think California? Plus a male at San Antonio zoo, and an individual at discovery Cove.

White belly go away birds are struggling but have the potential to make a come back. None in private hands, but San Diego and Houston still hold the species.

There might be one or two individuals of other species still living in the states (knysna, black billed, hartlaubs), but if there are, they are very, very old birds, and are essentially living relics from populations have long since become non-viable.

This is very interesting, over here the most common in zoos are probably also Violet and maybe even Knysna.

Birds of Eden which takes in private pet trade birds has an insane amount of turaco species including:
Ones I saw
Guinea (persa and buffoni)
Hartlaub
Purple-crested
Knysna
Livingston
Schalow's
Grey Go-away-bird
Western Plantain-eater
Listed on site
Black-billed turaco
One of the other go-away birds

We also have more species in our private pet trade
Including:
Ross's
White-cheeked
Fischer's
From what I can remember

With Hartlaub's and Guinea being the most common.
Knysna are also very common but require a permit to keep.
 
This is very interesting, over here the most common in zoos are probably also Violet and maybe even Knysna.

Birds of Eden which takes in private pet trade birds has an insane amount of turaco species including:
Ones I saw
Guinea (persa and buffoni)
Hartlaub
Purple-crested
Knysna
Livingston
Schalow's
Grey Go-away-bird
Western Plantain-eater
Listed on site
Black-billed turaco
One of the other go-away birds

We also have more species in our private pet trade
Including:
Ross's
White-cheeked
Fischer's
From what I can remember

With Hartlaub's and Guinea being the most common.
Knysna are also very common but require a permit to keep.

Interesting - I'd very much like to see Knysna one day.
In Europe I suspect the largest turaco collection is Birdworld in the UK, with:

Emin's turaco
Fischer's turaco
Red-crested turaco
Ross's turaco
Schalow's turaco
Senegal turaco
White-cheeked turaco
White-crested turaco
 
In the US, Knysna is non existent. *maybe* One or two very old individuals left in private collections, if that. Livingstone’s has become increasingly well-established over the past five years, to the point where they are probably the fourth most populous Turaco in the US, with the population as likely pushing close to 100 birds now. Purple crested there is two or three birds in zoos, and two or three more in private hands. Unfortunately the population is probably destined to disappear within the next 10 years, unless some serious work goes into zoos and private individuals cooperating, and even then, it might be too late. For the go away birds, totally nonexistent in the US.
The following article lists 2.2 Knysna Turaco imported by the International Turaco Society in the UK in 2004. The animals were part of an exchange deal with a Private breeder here in South Africa.

Exchanging Turacos – Turacos
 
The following article lists 2.2 Knysna Turaco imported by the International Turaco Society in the UK in 2004. The animals were part of an exchange deal with a Private breeder here in South Africa.

Exchanging Turacos – Turacos
Well yes, if you read my post, you would see I specify *in the United States*. Internationally, Europe has a much larger and more diverse turaco population than North America. Even then though, Knysna is still a species that is less common.
 
Well yes, if you read my post, you would see I specify *in the United States*. Internationally, Europe has a much larger and more diverse turaco population than North America. Even then though, Knysna is still a species that is less common.
Apologies, I had misread "US" as "UK".
 
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