Dutch zoo guides

Blijdorpenaar said:
The director has made very clear that Artis will be working towards less animals, so they have more room. Whether you think that's desirable or not, I certainly think it's wise in a practical sense, looking at the state of (local) politics and zoo-scepticism.
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Less animals in the Small Mammal House doesn't make that much sense. Multiple enclosures are empty now and could easily be filled up with species that don't need that much space.

I got a map of the mammal complex of Stichting AAP this week; enough interesting species that could be transferred to Artis' Small Mammal House like sugar gliders, tenrecs, hedgehogs, degus, squirrels, chipmunks, pouched rats, marmosets and tamarins.
 
Totally agree with you on this AWP, although it is needed for Artis to scale down, their way of doing that right now isn’t that great. Most species that have left haven’t led to the intended effect of creating more room for the remaining species. A lot of exhibits remain empty or are given towards species that didn’t need the extra room at all. In other situations a species will get multiple enclosures, which makes the amount of space for the species bigger, but doesn’t add much for the individual animals. I can also give the bird house as an example where a lot of species left (in the tropical area), where it wasn’t needed nor did it add anything for the remaining species. Now that the Great argus is added I hope this trend will be reversed.

I just feel like their old argument of creating room (which actually did happen when the Carnivore enclosures were removed and the elephants got much more space) is used as an excuse for the fact that they aren’t able to get new species, or aren’t willing to.

I am hopeful though, the amount of species added these last few months is pretty high. They also have some exciting upcoming construction plans, such as the new lion and scimitar oryx exhibits. And I’m kinda interested in their African civets that are currently kept behind the scenes as well ;)
 
1Squirrel monkey said:
Totally agree with you on this AWP, although it is needed for Artis to scale down, their way of doing that right now isn’t that great. Most species that have left haven’t led to the intended effect of creating more room for the remaining species. A lot of exhibits remain empty or are given towards species that didn’t need the extra room at all. In other situations a species will get multiple enclosures, which makes the amount of space for the species bigger, but doesn’t add much for the individual animals. I can also give the bird house as an example where a lot of species left (in the tropical area), where it wasn’t needed nor did it add anything for the remaining species. Now that the Great argus is added I hope this trend will be reversed.

I just feel like their old argument of creating room (which actually did happen when the Carnivore enclosures were removed and the elephants got much more space) is used as an excuse for the fact that they aren’t able to get new species, or aren’t willing to.

I am hopeful though, the amount of species added these last few months is pretty high. They also have some exciting upcoming construction plans, such as the new lion and scimitar oryx exhibits. And I’m kinda interested in their African civets that are currently kept behind the scenes as well ;)
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I agree with you, but I wouldn't say that some species don't need the extra room. Especially in the small mammal house, some animals still have enclosures that are way to small for them (and also the whole building is a bit outdated). The species that used to live in the tropical part of the birdhouse are still in Artis, but have been moved to the Metzelaarskas. Additionally, 2 other species have been added to the tropical area since the other species had left, both species were new for Artis.


I am still doubtfull whether the African civets are actually still in Artis. I never received any confirmation about their presence from any of my sources within the zoo.
 
Dassie rat said:
ZTL includes the African civet at Artis
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True, but ZTL isn't allways correct, it states that they potentially could be behind the scenes in Artis. However I doubt it that they would keep this species behind the scenes for 9 months, given that these facilities aren't that spacious.
 
I'm trying to push out two more Artis guides today before I leave to vacation.

After I, at some point, finish the Artis guides, I'm planning on making European zoo guides. Where I make zoo guides for exhibits all over Europe, like the Rio Negro in Duisburg, the Masaola rainforest in Zürich, and the Darwin's crater in Prague.

I won't be doing guides for the whole zoos though, only the larger/best exhibits
 
Canihelpyou? said:
What is the species of leafcutter ant kept in amersfoort?
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I have absolutely no idea, the people working the mail for Amersfoort are very unhelpful and rude so I couldn't ask them and we don't have a Zoochatter who visits on a regular basis. Same goes for the stick and leaf insects, those were complete guesses
 
Two questions for anyone who knows Apenheul:
- What areas could use a guide? (So far I've got: The Barbary area, the Canopy path, the Madagascar forest and the Pitheciidae forest (which could use a better name)). There's animals that make me assume there's more areas to make guides for (Night monkeys and sloth makes me think there's a nocturnal area hidden somewhere).
- What species are held there?

The last three Artis guides will be posted before I begin with Apenheul, of course. But I'd prefer to have a list so I can get a head start
 
Mr Gharial said:
Two questions for anyone who knows Apenheul:
- What areas could use a guide? (So far I've got: The Barbary area, the Canopy path, the Madagascar forest and the Pitheciidae forest (which could use a better name)). There's animals that make me assume there's more areas to make guides for (Night monkeys and sloth makes me think there's a nocturnal area hidden somewhere).
- What species are held there?

The last three Artis guides will be posted before I begin with Apenheul, of course. But I'd prefer to have a list so I can get a head start
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I don't think more are needed. The enclosures/walkthrough areas you have not listed yet have no more than two species. The Pitheciidae forest could be called South America forest, allthough the Canopy path is also South American...

In the nocturnal room, there are no more species than the sloths and night monkeys you mentioned. You will find the nocturnal room at the top of the Canopy path. Next to the nocturnal room is another room with different kinds of insects and poison frogs. Whether they are still there and what species are still there I do not know. Because of COVID, the Canopy path was closed, so I have not been there the last few visits.
 
MennoPebesma said:
Next to the nocturnal room is another room with different kinds of insects and poison frogs. Whether they are still there and what species are still there I do not know.
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If they are still present I'll make a guide for this area.

Do you know of any separated exhibits within the walkthrough areas?
 
Mr Gharial said:
Do you know of any separated exhibits within the walkthrough areas?
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The Pitheciidae forest has an enclosure for red-footed tortoise. These animals use the same indoor enclosure as the monkeys. In addition, they have a small outside enclosure in the walkthrough area.

The enclosures of the crowned lemurs and Lac Alaotra bamboo lemurs and that of the blue-eyed black lemurs are in the Madagascar walkthrough area.

In the Barbary area there is a walkthrough aviary for northern bald ibis, and also a separate enclosure where a Barbary sheep was kept during my last visit. That enclosure should now house the two donkeys from Artis. Whether the Barbary sheep is still there I am not sure. I believe the Barbary area cannot be entered at the moment due to bird flu measures.

Beneath the Canopy path is the enclosure for the red-legged seriema and Southern pudu. At about the end of the Canopy path, you have a view of a small river with three species of sturgeon.
 
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