Reimagining the Bronx Zoo

Neil chace said:
Does the World of Darkness Building re-opening inherently need to be a Nocturnal house? Or could the zoo reutilize the building as some other sort of small animal habitats? If a Nocturnal house is unreasonable, then at least having the building open would be a good thing.
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In theory it doesn't, and I agree that use as a secondary small mammal/animal house (medium mammal house?) would be better than nothing. I think the intention is/was to reopen it as a nocturnal house, though. Bronx is deeply routed in nocturnal house history having been the zoo to invent red light exhibitry and World of Darkness was the world's first proper reverse lighting exhibit, so utilizing the building for anything else seems a like a loss (though less of a loss than not using it at all!).

~Thylo
 
Bringing this thread back from the dead to ask something. How build-able are these areas?
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For info on what the numbers mean, look at this document. Trying to make my own master plan
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Ok, so here's my question. What stuff that I highlighted would be able to be developed on?

The blue part especially is something I'm not sure about as most seems to be either backstage or breeding. As well, I can't imagine WCS wants to touch much of that forest.
 

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tigris115 said:
Ok, so here's my question. What stuff that I highlighted would be able to be developed on?

The blue part especially is something I'm not sure about as most seems to be either backstage or breeding. As well, I can't imagine WCS wants to touch much of that forest.
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Anything but the river really can theoretically be developed. The blue area is where a lot of off-show facilities are. You have also highlighted every one of the zoo's parking lots and marked them for development.

~Thylo
 
ThylacineAlive said:
Anything but the river really can theoretically be developed. The blue area is where a lot of off-show facilities are. You have also highlighted every one of the zoo's parking lots and marked them for development.

~Thylo
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I slated the Bronx River lot to be converted into a parking garage. That way, higher traffic on a smaller footprint as with any city zoo, u gotta be big brain with space

With the Southern Boulevard lot, I'm going to add a bunch of solar panels to cover the lot. That way, the zoo gets some green energy while keeping cars shady

Even if it's not a new animal complex, I'm sure these will be deeply appreciated by zoo patrons
 
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Good idea.

If any moderators are online, could this please be moved to the speculative section? Thanks
 
tigris115 said:
Ok, so here's my question. What stuff that I highlighted would be able to be developed on?

The blue part especially is something I'm not sure about as most seems to be either backstage or breeding. As well, I can't imagine WCS wants to touch much of that forest.
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The blue area on your map is a rocky ridge. That limits/determines what can be developed there. And the cost of construction
 
Zooplantman said:
The blue area on your map is a rocky ridge. That limits/determines what can be developed there. And the cost of construction
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Scrapped it. I just wanted to know if the area had any potential, hence why I highlighted it with blue.
 
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TinoPup said:
Report the thread with that as the reason.
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Thx, you're a genius.

So what opinions do u have on my master plan?
I'm especially curious on the elephant part as some others told me it ain't realistic. Tho tbh, besides WCS's wishy washy stance on the species, I'd say it's fine.
 
tigris115 said:
Thx, you're a genius.

So what opinions do u have on my master plan?
I'm especially curious on the elephant part as some others told me it ain't realistic. Tho tbh, besides WCS's wishy washy stance on the species, I'd say it's fine.
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The opinions you've been given so far are very correct. Almost nothing in your plan is remotely realistic, especially the elephants. The parking, maybe. For Africa, for example, you have every single exhibit already there being expanded, plus adding a bunch of new exhibits, when there's no room for anything.
 
TinoPup said:
The opinions you've been given so far are very correct. Almost nothing in your plan is remotely realistic, especially the elephants. The parking, maybe. For Africa, for example, you have every single exhibit already there being expanded, plus adding a bunch of new exhibits, when there's no room for anything.
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I think the problem is less "it ain't realistic." Rather, I think the problem is that nothing's fleshed out enough. Ideally, I'd sit down with someone who visits the zoo more than once a month as I only rly visit about 1-2 times a year.

Then we could discuss it on Discord to make it more fleshed out and iron out the unrealistic crap. However, I will be deep in the cold, cold ground before I give up on a new elephant complex.

For Africa, I know the entire area can at least fit a slightly expanded indoor area for giraffes, the 3 carnivores already there (lions, hyenas, wild dogs), and the Nature Trek cab be retooled into a place for small African species.

I also had it in my mind that with everything but the giraffes, they could be re-shuffled. I'd need the exact amount of space of the whole area but I think that the three things I mentioned are doable

Bronx Zoo Master Plan
 
It's your plan, you can't rely on others to help you. That plan for africa is much better. Re-shuffling isn't. That's a lot of money for little benefit.
 
TinoPup said:
It's your plan, you can't rely on others to help you. That plan for africa is much better. Re-shuffling isn't. That's a lot of money for little benefit.
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I'm not "relying on others." I just want someone with a better understanding of the zoo in terms of details I may not catch.

So they can be like "ayy tigris, there's a thingy there that'll prevent building" or "ayy tigris, maybe scale that thingy back"

That sorta support, you know

And yea, maybe reshuffling wouldn't be so viable. I'll admit 3 things I rly wanted to do were:
1. Get cheetahs an exhibit space
2. Get a white rhino herd in an open savannah enclosure.
3. Get the lions an enclosure more like Tiger Mountain. That being with close up viewing, a training demo area, and the ability to manage animals more flexibly. Especially those first 2 as I feel that zoo exhibits need to be more about telling a story, which Tiger Mountain and CGF do a stellar job at. IMO, to tell a story is something important for conservation
 
Those are mostly things you can find out yourself, using stuff like google earth. You seem to want a lot of help, which is putting a lot on someone else. Utilize the resources threads in the speculation forum, as well.

A cheetah space is easy. A cheetah space in Africa, with a separate area to do lure coursing shows, much less so.
An entire herd of rhinos is also improbable, given the space they need.
 
TinoPup said:
Those are mostly things you can find out yourself, using stuff like google earth. You seem to want a lot of help, which is putting a lot on someone else. Utilize the resources threads in the speculation forum, as well.

A cheetah space is easy. A cheetah space in Africa, with a separate area to do lure coursing shows, much less so.
An entire herd of rhinos is also improbable, given the space they need.
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I think I'm just too impatient.

Also, I tried using Earth but a lot of the zoo is hella forested. But I'll try and be more self-sufficient with this
 
Word to the wise, the parts of the zoo that are forested are likely to remain forested. I know this thread is all speculation and not things that are actually built, but just to help you out for realism's sake, the zoo isn't too likely to clear cut a large part of forest (which it prides itself on) for exhibit space. Do what you will with that opinion.
 
Given it's a fantasy zoo, and is never going to happen anyway, why not just make it "Bronx inspired" and do what you want, then? Without needing to know all of the specifics?
 
TinoPup said:
Given it's a fantasy zoo, and is never going to happen anyway, why not just make it "Bronx inspired" and do what you want, then? Without needing to know all of the specifics?
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Idk, it's just what I vibe with rn

Also @Aardwolf I scrapped any idea of touching any really undeveloped areas.

Tho I'd say maybe have some hiking and exploration programs for school age kids. That'd be fun
 
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