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The sex of the tiger cubs has now been confirmed: 2 males and 1 female.

As I suspected - my hours of endless observation and note-taking did point to that - 2 of the cubs were clearly much more tight and boisterous, with one in particular enjoying pestering his father, while the third stuck to a corner in the hay and generally was separate from the other two. Not quite sure how much that indicates in a more objective way, but I just had a very strong feeling, good to see it was right!

Would be interested to see how the names are decided and what they settle on eventually. Also fabulous news that all three are healthy, I hadn't spotted any bad signs when watching them other than a slight shiver (on colder days?) in one, so good to know that all is well.
 
Visited today for a couple of hours and had a pretty good time despite some major issues getting there. Just want to say that I queued for about 5 minutes to get in to the Snowden aviary (at 14.30) and we were probably the last group to see the colobus outside. According to the keeper this is about the time they usually decide to disappear so my timing was impeccable for once... :p

Got loads more to say but really haven't got the energy tonight, expect some more in-depth thoughts tomorrow. :)
 
Just want to say that I queued for about 5 minutes to get in to the Snowden aviary (at 14.30) and we were probably the last group to see the colobus outside.

At least you didn’t have to queue for 13 hours; and at least you didn’t use your status to queue jump - which in England can apparently incite people to petition for you to be fired from your job.
 
. Just want to say that I queued for about 5 minutes to get in to the Snowden aviary (at 14.30) and we were probably the last group to see the colobus outside. According to the keeper this is about the time they usually decide to disappear so my timing was impeccable for once... :p

I think this is probably the downside of this new walkthrough exhibit- at busy times it involves queuing, plus staff to marshall visitors etc and the Colobus can 'disappear' off view for periods. In most zoos with a Colobus exhibit you can pretty much just see them any time, or just go back when you please, though obviously their enclosures aren't usually a walkthrough experience like this new one at London.
 
I think this is probably the downside of this new walkthrough exhibit- at busy times it involves queuing, plus staff to marshall visitors etc and the Colobus can 'disappear' off view for periods. In most zoos with a Colobus exhibit you can pretty much just see them any time, or just go back when you please, though obviously their enclosures aren't so spacious or walkthrough like this new one at London.
To be fair there's plenty of opportunity to view them indoors without queueing, but I can see that become a bottleneck in busy periods as well.
 
Visited today for a couple of hours and had a pretty good time despite some major issues getting there. Just want to say that I queued for about 5 minutes to get in to the Snowden aviary (at 14.30) and we were probably the last group to see the colobus outside. According to the keeper this is about the time they usually decide to disappear so my timing was impeccable for once... :p

Got loads more to say but really haven't got the energy tonight, expect some more in-depth thoughts tomorrow. :)
Looking forward to your review
 
So I made the journey down from Birmingham on Thursday and (despite several train cancellations) I made it to the zoo for about 2pm. Not going to lie, thought it was going to be a bit of a rush to see the whole collection but managed it with a bit of time to spare. To be fair it has been less than two years since my last visit so I felt confident in skipping certain parts at first and just mopping up the bits I missed last time.

Stuff I thought of whilst walking around -

The colobus walkthrough is quite good, definitely the biggest enclosure I've seen for the species, but it is a bit of a pain having to queue (even though the queue was barely anything, just inconvenient when I was running late!) and if the colobus go inside then there really isn't a lot to see. Hopefully they will get something to go on the ground so there's always something to keep visitors engaged.

The invert house is great, I was impressed by a lot of things in there but the coral reef tank wasn't one of them... I couldn't get close to it due to two families taking up the viewing area and from a distance it was hard to see what was what due to cloudy water. The rest of the building is genuinely great though, the spider walkthrough was obviously the highlight but there's a lot to like here. I was particularly taken by the mosquito display, a whole family I don't think I've witnessed in captivity before.

The Clore is a bit of a mixed bag. Downstairs there is a lot of repetition but that's okay if you like Prosimians, not so great if your idea of a nocturnal house includes variety though... Upstairs is also not what it once was but I'm not turning my nose up at Narrow-striped Mongoose and Southern Tamandua...

The Aye-aye exhibit probably doesn't need red lights outside as there was plenty of sunlight peeping through the covers. Other than that the Aye-ayes and Gentle Lemurs were great, and the Ring-tailed Lemur walkthrough was quite pleasant despite being smaller than average. Shame there are all those side exhibits empty...

The reptile house still looked good despite a lot of empty enclosures and repeat species. Highlights were good views of the Chinese Giant Salamnder, seeing the bushmasters, and getting to soak up the atmosphere in there one last time.
Also good to see the new building in the flesh, much larger than I expected so I'm far more optimistic for the herp collection than I once was.

The giraffe paddock doesn't look terrible to me, and nowhere near as bad as some make out on here. It (now) appears far more spacious than Dudleys is and I think it works well for a non-breeding group. I will admit that the fence is a bit off-putting but there has to be some kind of compromise. The rest of the Cotton Terraces looked fine and it's always a treat to see warthogs nowadays. :)

The Mappin Terraces are wasted with that Outback display... I'm not a big fan of Giant Pandas as a rule, BUT if there was an enclosure and zoo in the UK where I'd like to see them then this is it. I know it was floated years ago, and I know pandas are a huge drain on resources but seriously, with a bit of imagination and optimism this might work. I know new indoor accomodation would be needed but I'm sure it could be feasible. That's enough of being an armchair zoo director for now...

Land Of The Lions might work in a bigger zoo but in London it comes across as over-indulging an ABC species when the space requirements aren't quite that great, and also taking up valuable real estate that could house a few more species... I like the langur enclosure and vulture aviary, I'm indifferent on the mongoose exhibit but I'd like geographically accurate species instead of what's currently there.
As for the theming, well yeah, it might come across as a bit on the nose in places but I stand by that it could work in a different (larger and more ethnographically themed) collection. In London it's just a waste of space...

Tiger, gorilla, Komodo, and penguin exhibits work great and at least two of them look like they belong in a world class zoo. Gorilla Kingdom on the other hand wouldn't look out of place in any mid to large UK collection, and some of the monkey cages do look a bit snug by todays standards. The Komodo Dragon exhibit is a fairly standard affair, doesn't stand out to me in any way, shape, or form compared to the ones at Colchester and Chester.

Blackburn pavilion was charming, really great to spend some time in there soaking up the atmosphere despite not really being that interested in the LBJs. Some pretty choice species in there though, especially in the individual aviaries. The Casson is completely wasted in comparison, Babirusa are nice but don't make up for all the unused space the building takes up.

Yeah, so I think that's it for my thoughts on London. As an outsider looking in I find it an enjoyable zoo but don't think it's a collection worthy of our capital city, in fact it would probably struggle to crack my personal top ten in the UK. But for a few hours visit it's great - just enough biggish animals (though there could be more), some choice species, loads of history, and a few great modern exhibits. Just a shame that compared to other European capitals it pales into insignificance...

That was far longer than I anticipated so if you got to the end then well done and thank you! :)
 
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And which one would that be? I sincerely hope it isn't Roma, given that London's collection is still by far and away better...
I'd suggest the only facet in which London is outdone by Roma are amphibians.
It’s Roma. And given the choice I know the general public would chose them, too.
 
Why? In what way is the collection better? London have far more rarities, a fair few crowd pleasers too…



No zoo in Europe has Giant armadillos currently.

Roma knocks London out of the part when it comes to the crowd pleasers. It’s simply not a debate on that front.

From an Italian: go visit London a 100 times rather than go more than once at Rome
I have no doubt London is a better zoo and have never stated otherwise.
 
Roma knocks London out of the part when it comes to the crowd pleasers. It’s simply not a debate on that front.

Ah, I apologise then as I was working under the assumption you valued rarities over crowd pleasers. Even so, I would say this - an animal can be made into a crowd pleaser if enough effort is put into its exhibitry. While I have lots of criticisms for London, I cannot reproach them really for the way in which they've managed to make certain species around the zoo crowd pleasers, when at a zoo like Roma these would just be any other animal. Good example would be the colobus, who have garnered such crowds you'd think you were lining up to see the black and white fur of a panda and not of a fairly common monkey. But others would be okapi, sloth and even BUGS to an extent, which is far more busy than most invert houses I've come across. So while I see your point, and accept that objectively speaking, Roma has more traditional crowd pleasers, I reckon that a lot of London's animals have become local celebrities largely because of the way they are exhibited.
 
I agree that London is innovative. It is clearly the better zoo. But when it comes to the big animals roma wipes it off the park. It has elephants to start..
 
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