Hi, Sumatran and Javan rhinos have already been discussed on zoochat, but the forums I found were from a long time ago. How is the situation of these species currently? Do you see possible that they will be in captivity again in the future? Do you think they will go extinct?
The Javan rhinos all live in a single (massive) national park now and their numbers have not improved enough for conservationists to consider removing some from that environment
Indeed the last zoo Javan rhinoceros, which lived in Adelaide Zoo from 12th April 1886 until it died on 4th February 1907, was labelled as an Indian rhino; it wasn't identified as a Javan rhino until long after its death when its remains were examined in the Adelaide Museum.There are no Javan rhino in captivity, but they did relatively well in the past. Occasionally they were mistaken for small Greater One Horn/Indian Rhinoceros and mislabeled in documents.....
Well, this is very good news to hear and I appreciate hearing it. It is good to know there is hope for the Javan Rhinoceros!That isn't strictly true - their numbers have long-since reached the carrying capacity for the national park, and this is why population expansion has severely dropped off to "mere" replacement level. As such, there is an extremely good case for relocating some animals elsewhere to allow the population to further expand both at the initial location and any secondary location - especially given the highly vulnerable location of the existing population immediately next to a notoriously active and explosive volcano!
The reason this hasn't happened yet comes down to two things; politics and fear. However, the future looks much brighter for Javan Rhinoceros than it does for Sumatran I fear ...
Interesting, I appreciate that perspective. There is a part of me that often wonders if past failures (eighties and earlier) were more a reflection on a less advanced zoological world and an overconfidence in importing animals before husbandry is figured out, but often the fine details aren't available to me. I am not the best read zoochatter.However, I still think that the judgement for the last attempts to keep and breed Sumatran Rhinos ex-situ (USA and UK) isn't fair. The "initial material" with less then a dozen individuals, whom some/many were not able to bred (e.g. too old) couldn't be successfull in a longer term. But even then Cincinnati showed, that keeping this species for a longer period as well as breeding and raising was possible...
Some of the problems with the Sumatrans kept if the 80s were diet related and some were the animals supplied, the first female at the Port Lymph zoo in the UK was aged and carrying a leg injury from a poachers snare.Well, this is very good news to hear and I appreciate hearing it. It is good to know there is hope for the Javan Rhinoceros!
Interesting, I appreciate that perspective. There is a part of me that often wonders if past failures (eighties and earlier) were more a reflection on a less advanced zoological world and an overconfidence in importing animals before husbandry is figured out, but often the fine details aren't available to me. I am not the best read zoochatter.
As for the Javans they are doing ok currently with the latest number said to be 74
Its much easier to watch all the eggs in one basket as with the Javans than keep an eye on a very scattered population as is the case with the Sumatran rhino.There's also said to be around only 34-37 Sumatrans remaining in the wild so unfortunately they're doing much worse than their Javan counterparts.
This is true but a disease outbreak, wildfire, tsunami, or volcanic eruption can doom that population. A second population somewhere would be ideal, whether it is captive or wild.Its much easier to watch all the eggs in one basket as with the Javans than keep an eye on a very scattered population as is the case with the Sumatran rhino.
That is one of the reasons they are actively trying to find more or raise more on the Borneo site. The Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary is working with the Malaysian government on projects to use frozen eggs and sperm that Malaysia holds. There is also work to find more Bornean rhinos to put in that sanctuary. That is also why they are making a second Sumatran site, for the rhinos in that part of the island. Sumatra and Borneo are massive islands, so having an additional site on either or both is a huge step.This is true but a disease outbreak, wildfire, tsunami, or volcanic eruption can doom that population. A second population somewhere would be ideal, whether it is captive or wild.
That is one of the reasons they are actively trying to find more or raise more on the Borneo site. The Sumatran Rhino Sanctuary is working with the Malaysian government on projects to use frozen eggs and sperm that Malaysia holds. There is also work to find more Bornean rhinos to put in that sanctuary. That is also why they are making a second Sumatran site, for the rhinos in that part of the island. Sumatra and Borneo are massive islands, so having an additional site on either or both is a huge step.
Ha, oops! Thanks for the correctionYou are replying to a post which was talking about the Javan requiring a second population, not Sumatran![]()