Zoochat Challenge North America 2023

Found out Toronto actually keeps B.fasciatus and not B.bulabula. Total is still at 11.

Noted, thanks. I've actually been counting all Fiji Banded Iguanas as one species for now - I'm not sure exactly which species we have here, if they're all signed correctly, or if there are any hybrids.
 
My weekly visit to Buffalo Zoo changed days this week, which meant a rotating primate exhibit held different residents:
12. Black-and-Gold Howler Monkey- Alouatta caraya
The Buffalo Zoo has changed around their primate rotation, meaning that I saw a species usually off-exhibit during my weekly Sunday visits:
13. Common Squirrel Monkey- Samiri sciureus
 
A visit to Little Rock yesterday brings me to an even 90! My goal is to hit 100 species before I move in the beginning of March. I have two tentative visits planned between now and then, so we will see if I make it!

Little Rock Zoo (Little Rock, AR) -- 17 February 2023:
90. Standing’s day gecko (Phelsuma standingi)

An interesting aside for the herp thread you have in progress, @Coelacanth18, since my visit to Dallas last month, they have sent a group of their Sakishima grass lizards to Little Rock, which will be going on display soon. Their exhibit is ready and signed, but the lizards are not on exhibit yet.
Another weekend road trip, another zoo!

Sedgwick County Zoo (Wichita, KS) -- 25 February 2023:
91. Carrot-tail viper gecko (Hemidactylus imbricatus)
92. Green keel-bellied lizard (Gastropholis prasina)
93. Jamaican iguana (Cyclura collei)
94. Northern alligator lizard (Elgaria coerulea)
95. Rainbow whiptail (Cnemidophorus lemniscatus)
96. Sonoran spiny-tailed iguana (Ctenosaura macrolopha)
 
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I just got back from a trip to DC, and I visited the Maryland Zoo, National Aquarium, and National Zoo while there! I had never visited the Maryland Zoo or National Aquarium before, and it was great to cross them off my bucket list. I really enjoyed both facilities, and I can see why the National Aquarium is consistently ranked so highly. The National Zoo was also great, with the Orangutans and Pygmy Slow Loris being two of the primate highlights. Here are all my updates:

Maryland Zoo in Baltimore (2/17/2023)

14. Red-Tailed Guenon (Cercopithecus ascanius)
15. Ring-Tailed Lemur (Lemur catta)
16. Chimpanzee (Pan troglodytes)

Smithsonian National Zoo (2/18/2023)
17. Bornean Orangutan (Pongo pygmaeus)
18. Allen's Swamp Monkey (Allenopithecus nigrovirdis)
19. Western Lowland Gorilla (Gorilla gorilla gorilla)
20. Red Ruffed Lemur (Varecia rubra)
21. Pygmy Slow Loris (Xanthonycticebus pygmaeus)
22. Emperor Tamarin (Saguinus imperator)

Just got back from a nice trip to the Bronx. I was even lucky enough to spot the reclusive mouse lemur!

Bronx Zoo (2/26/23)
23. Javan Langur (Trachypithecus auratus)
24. Silvered Leaf Monkey (Trachypithecus cristatus)
25. White-Cheeked Gibbon (Nomascus leucogenys)
26. Coquerel’s Sifaka (Propithecus coquereli)
27. Gray Mouse Lemur (Microcebus murinus)
28. Collared Lemur (Eulemur collaris)
 
Another weekend road trip, another zoo!

Sedgwick County Zoo (Wichita, KS) -- 25 February 2023:
91. Carrot-tail viper gecko (Hemidactylus imbricatus)
92. Green keel-bellied lizard (Gastropholis prasina)
93. Jamaican iguana (Cyclura collei)
94. Northern alligator lizard (Elgaria coerulea)
95. Rainbow whiptail (Cnemidophorus lemniscatus)
96. Sonoran spiny-tailed iguana (Ctenosaura macrolopha)
I had one last impromptu stroll through the zoo this morning before I am not longer a DFW local since it is such a beautiful day!

Dallas Zoo (Dallas, TX) -- 28 February 2023:
97. Meller’s giant one-horned chameleon (Trioceros melleri)
 
Finally added a few more species.

Animal World & Snake Farm Zoo (1/17)
39. knight anole (Anolis equestris)
40. Mexican beaded lizard (Heloderma horridum)
41. central bearded dragon (Pogona vitticeps)

Dallas World Aquarium (2/24)
42. brown basilisk (Basiliscus vittatus)
43. Hernandez's Helmeted Basilisk (Corytophanes hernandesii)
 
Finally got to visit Henry Vilas (dang cold weather and homework...). Didn't see every primate they had, but I can get the ones I missed later!
Henry Vilas Zoo, February 5th, 2023
10. Black and White Ruffed Lemur (Varecia variegata)
11. Geoffrey's Marmoset (Callithrix geoffroyi)
12. White-Handed Gibbon (Hylobates lar)
Squeezed in a brief visit to Henry Vilas today and saw a singular new primate for this challenge.
Henry Vilas Zoo, February 28th, 2023
13. Ring-Tailed Lemur (Lemur catta)
There’s still 2 more primates at Henry Vilas that I haven’t seen yet, but I’ll be getting one of them elsewhere soon. Very soon, indeed…
 
Some very good entries here! I cannot wait until more of the Zoo's around me start to open up so I can add more. Good luck, everyone!
 
I had one last impromptu stroll through the zoo this morning before I am not longer a DFW local since it is such a beautiful day!

Dallas Zoo (Dallas, TX) -- 28 February 2023:
97. Meller’s giant one-horned chameleon (Trioceros melleri)
I made a little pit stop to the Abilene Zoo along the first leg of my westward trek! It was an incredibly successful day, with zero no shows! Like with the bobcat in the Global challenge, apparently the third time's the charm with the Kuhl's flying gecko, having missed it at Little Rock and in my initial pass through of the Reptile House. I was also able to finally cross the 100-species mark -- and before my move as was my goal!

Abilene Zoo (Abilene, TX) -- 03 March 2023:
98. Kuhl’s flying gecko (Gekko kuhli)
99. Malagasy leaf-tailed gecko (Uroplatus fimbriatus)
100. Neon day gecko (Phelsuma klemmeri)
101. Panther chameleon (Furcifer pardalis)
102. Satanic leaf-tailed gecko (Uroplatus phantasticus)
103. Sudan plated lizard (Broadleysaurus major)
 
Hi besties! Uploading my most recent list here:
  1. Western Lowland Gorilla ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  2. Chimpanzee ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  3. Bornean Orangutan ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  4. White Cheeked Gibbon ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  5. Siamang ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  6. Brown-Headed Spider Monkey ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  7. Mongoose Lemur ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  8. Black Howler Monkey ZooMiami 1/3/2023
  9. Colobus Monkey Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  10. Ring-Tailed Lemur Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  11. Buff-Cheeked Gibbon Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  12. Red-Ruffed Lemur Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  13. Cotton-Top Tamarin Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  14. Black-Handed Spider Monkey Naples Zoo 1/5/2023
  15. Ebony Langur Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  16. Coquerel's Sifaka Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  17. Common Brown Lemur Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  18. Gelada Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  19. Bolivian Grey Titi Monkey Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  20. Silvery Leaf Monkey Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  21. Maholey Bushbaby Bronx Zoo 1/8/2023
  22. Geoffrey's Tamarin Maritime Aquarium 1/8/2023
  23. Vervet Monkey / Grivet Monkey Animal Adventures 2/5/2023
  24. DeBraza's Monkey Franklin Park Zoo 2/25/2023
  25. Potto Franklin Park Zoo 2/25/2023
  26. Golden Lion Tamarin Roger Williams Park Zoo 1/14/2023
  27. White-Faced Saki Monkey Roger Williams Park Zoo 1/14/2023
I believe going forward we will be combing Vervet and Grivet, yes?
 
I made a little pit stop to the Abilene Zoo along the first leg of my westward trek! It was an incredibly successful day, with zero no shows! Like with the bobcat in the Global challenge, apparently the third time's the charm with the Kuhl's flying gecko, having missed it at Little Rock and in my initial pass through of the Reptile House. I was also able to finally cross the 100-species mark -- and before my move as was my goal!

Abilene Zoo (Abilene, TX) -- 03 March 2023:
98. Kuhl’s flying gecko (Gekko kuhli)
99. Malagasy leaf-tailed gecko (Uroplatus fimbriatus)
100. Neon day gecko (Phelsuma klemmeri)
101. Panther chameleon (Furcifer pardalis)
102. Satanic leaf-tailed gecko (Uroplatus phantasticus)
103. Sudan plated lizard (Broadleysaurus major)
A quick stop along the second leg of my westward trek!

El Paso Zoo (El Paso, TX) -- 04 March 2023:
104. Guantanamo anole (Anolis argenteolus)
 
That is correct.



So there's fimbriatus and giganteus? And they are signed accordingly at the zoos they're present in?
I had the Fort Worth animals noted as "giant leaf-tailed gecko", and U. giganteus was species given for that name by the IUCN -- I did not realize it was a common name for two different Uroplatus species. I did a little digging this evening, and the Fort Worth animals are, in fact, U. fimbriatus (although apparently U. giganteus are around -- just not in Texas). I have edited my Fort Worth list and removed it from the Abilene listing. Thanks for catching that! This change is accounted for in the update below:


Arizona-Sonora Desert Museum (Tucson, AZ) -- 05 March 2023:
104. Madrean alligator lizard (Elgaria kingii)
105. Western banded gecko (Coleonyx variegatus)
 
I had the Fort Worth animals noted as "giant leaf-tailed gecko", and U. giganteus was species given for that name by the IUCN -- I did not realize it was a common name for two different Uroplatus species. I did a little digging this evening, and the Fort Worth animals are, in fact, U. fimbriatus (although apparently U. giganteus are around -- just not in Texas). I have edited my Fort Worth list and removed it from the Abilene listing. Thanks for catching that! This change is accounted for in the update below:
While Uroplatus are some of my favorite reptiles, they are also, from my experience, one of the reptile taxa where the common names can be as good as useless. I've even seen fimbriatus signed as "Malagasy Leaf-tailed Gecko" before, and seeing that all leaf-tailed geckos are from Madagascar, that common name for them is as good as useless. There are a few taxa like that for which when I'm in reptile houses I always make sure to note the scientific name as well as the common because I've found the common names to be useless when determining species, with the others being Uromastyx and plated lizards.
 
I had the Fort Worth animals noted as "giant leaf-tailed gecko", and U. giganteus was species given for that name by the IUCN -- I did not realize it was a common name for two different Uroplatus species. I did a little digging this evening, and the Fort Worth animals are, in fact, U. fimbriatus (although apparently U. giganteus are around -- just not in Texas).

I've seen people mention both fimbriatus and giganteus - both of which can have interchangeable common names - and I've never known for sure if this was an ID issue or if we really did have both floating around. The SSP and studbook is for fimbriatus but with the common name for giganteus, which I think makes things more confusing.

There are a few taxa like that for which when I'm in reptile houses I always make sure to note the scientific name as well as the common because I've found the common names to be useless when determining species, with the others being Uromastyx and plated lizards.

Uromastyx is a mess for sure. Plated lizards I'd be curious to know what species you have trouble with: I can see the Zonosaurus being a real headache, but I usually see those referred to as "girdled lizards". I know of 3 species in US zoos called "plated lizards", with just 2 of those making up the majority of holdings.

(I ask because eventually my herp guide will cover lizards, so I want to see if there's any specific issues I should cover or address.)

Unfortunately there's quite a few other reptiles and amphibians for which common names are not very useful, which is why I encourage everyone to record the Latin names on the signage whenever possible - though I recognize many zoos don't allow for this.
 
Unfortunately there's quite a few other reptiles and amphibians for which common names are not very useful, which is why I encourage everyone to record the Latin names on the signage whenever possible - though I recognize many zoos don't allow for this.
FWIW I always record the listed scientific name when I do zoo species lists, I just don't usually post it in the list itself. If you even have an inquiry as to the listed binomial for any species in any of my species lists, just ask.
 
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Plated lizards I'd be curious to know what species you have trouble with: I can see the Zonosaurus being a real headache, but I usually see those referred to as "girdled lizards". I know of 3 species in US zoos called "plated lizards", with just 2 of those making up the majority of holdings.

(I ask because eventually my herp guide will cover lizards, so I want to see if there's any specific issues I should cover or address.)

I've seen zoo signs for "Plated lizard" and/or "African Plated lizard", and since there are multiple species of Plated Lizard from Africa, unless I record the scientific name I'm not certain of which species it is. I think all the ones I've seen are B. major, but I'm not 100% certain either.
 
While Uroplatus are some of my favorite reptiles, they are also, from my experience, one of the reptile taxa where the common names can be as good as useless. I've even seen fimbriatus signed as "Malagasy Leaf-tailed Gecko" before, and seeing that all leaf-tailed geckos are from Madagascar, that common name for them is as good as useless. There are a few taxa like that for which when I'm in reptile houses I always make sure to note the scientific name as well as the common because I've found the common names to be useless when determining species, with the others being Uromastyx and plated lizards.
Going into this challenge, reptiles were certainly not my area of expertise, so that’s something I’ve definitely picked up on along the way as I have been paying more attention to what I have seen and what I haven’t. I was well aware of this issue with birds and, of course, with Uromastyx and some turtles, etc., but I didn’t realize it was so prevalent. After my first couple of visits this year, I started to make sure to always take photos of all of the signage whenever possible to reference later. There was a lizard learning curve :p
 
I wasn't sure which one to pick (primates or lizards) until fate had it and I've seen a bunch of monkeys already this year (I'm keeping a side lizard count because of a few facilities I plan on visiting this year.

1/3/23
Jax Zoo
1. Bonobo
2. W. Lowland Gorilla
3. E. Colobus
4. Coquerals Sifaka
5. Ringtail Lemur
6. Mongoose Lemur
7. Siamang
8. Black Howler
9. Squirrel Monkey

1/4/23
Busch Gardens
10. Chimpanzee
11. Red Ruffed Lemur
12. Bornean Orangutan
13. N. White Cheek Gibbon

FL International Teaching Zoo
14. Cotton Top Tamarin
15. Patas Monkey

1/5/23
Lowry Park Zoo of Tampa (whatever it's called now a days)
16. Hamadryas Baboon
17. Mandrill
18. Angolan Colobus
19. Collard Lemur
20. Schmidts Guenon
21. Golden Lion Tamarin
22. Bolivian Titi

1/8/23
Suncoast Primate Sanctuary
23. Olive Baboon
24. White Face Capuchin
25. Tufted Capuchin
26. Black Handed Spider Monkey
27. Common Brown Lemur
28. Tonkean Macaque
29. Assam Macaque
30. Javan (Crab eater) Macaque
31. Pig Tail Macaque
32. Rhesus Macaque
33. Japanese Macaque

3/5/23
Zoo Atlanta
34. Drill (Mandrillus leucophaeus)
35. Crowned Lemur (Eulemur coronatus)

Was hoping to add more after a strong start, B/W ruffed Lemur are even eluding me.....
 
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