Blackleopard207
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I know, I meant 13 elephants total between 2022 and 2023 including both Asian and African elephants. 5 Asian & 3 African have been born between the 2 years so far with 5 more African on the way this year.
I’m still convinced Nadirah is one of the pregnant females to give birth this year since at the start of the episode its mentioned that she is 16 and she turned 18 back in December, so she should be close to that due date.
Nadirah though is only 17. She just turned 17 last December and not 18 cause she was born in 2005
0.1 Nadirah (Jackson × Donna) 2005.12.19
I know, I meant 13 elephants total between 2022 and 2023 including both Asian and African elephants. 5 Asian & 3 African have been born between the 2 years so far with 5 more African on the way this year.
It's likely there's only another two or three Africans due this year (including Jayei). Others are all due early next year.
This is 1 of the African elephant births that Omaha was probably referring to. Now I wonder who the other 3 will be? We have Jayei; Zahara, and three that still remain unannounced that have calves due this year.
This is some very wonderful news! Zahara is quite the genetically valuable young cow so I’m very glad she will be having a calf. She will also be the first captive born African elephant cow in the US to give birth since Asali at Memphis (10+ years ago) iirc - which is a really big deal considering how few captive bred cows have bred thus far. Unless Nadirah beats her to it that is!
It is interesting that the calf was conceived via artificial insemination considering Indy’s bull Kedar is completely unrelated to Zahara, it makes me wonder if he’s a behavioral non-breeder which would be unfortunate but it would make sense considering his upbringing.
If it’s not Kedar, then who is the father?
“Who the father is most likely”…I imagine the zoo will give us confirmation as to who the father is most likely. That being said, I sincerely hope it isn’t Jackson. He already has SO many offspring, has two grandkids alone on the way and we don’t need more of his genetics within the population.
Huh, very interesting news, especially regarding Dale! That would honestly be the most ideal, a pregnancy through Dales preserved semen.Dale and Tamani of KC are also options.
They’ve been training to collect from Tamani since at least 2019 and have frozen sperm from Dale that they were using for AI when fresh sperm wasn’t available. Funnily enough before COVID an AI at Indianapolis with sperm from Dale had to be canceled because the cow’s cycle timing wasn’t ideal. Kansas City have been seeming to take over the African elephant assisted reproduction program recently. Big thanks should really be going to Dr. Morefeld for her work too.
Huh, very interesting news, especially regarding Dale! That would honestly be the most ideal, a pregnancy through Dales preserved semen.
Ultimately only time will tell, but knowing how things are, it’ll probably be a Jackson calf :/ To be fair he *is* a good looking bull, and tends to throw female offspring, but still, he is the most well represented African Elephant in North America. We need variety darnit!
I’m still calling Steve Wilkos when the baby is bornI don’t think the father is Jackson in my opinion. The zoo already has Kedar and I personally see that in this case the most likely father of this calf anyway.
I don’t think the father is Jackson in my opinion. The zoo already has Kedar and I personally see that in this case the most likely father of this calf anyway.
I personally don't think Kedar's the father. Just a thought, but if he was in fact the father, surely Indianapolis would've announced it too. Kedar was also conceived via AI, so surely this calf would also be celebrated as the first calf born to two parents born via the same procedure, rather than just one as mentioned.
Zahara at Indianapolis Zoo in United States - Elephant Encyclopedia and Database
I don’t know where they got that information and I don’t believe it entirely. But it’s says that Zahara’s calf was sired either by Callee (misspelled Cali) or Titan.