Things people do that irritate you when you go to the zoo? #2

Another one that kills me are the people that are enjoying watching the chimpanzees at my local Safari Park, and then proceed to turn to their friend/partner/relative and proudly state:

"How cool is it that we evolved from chimpanzees?!"
 
They technically aren’t wrong though.

Taxonomically perhaps not, but by the standards of the English language they are.

Fair enough. I’d look weird if I went around calling pigeons and seagulls dinosaurs on a normal basis. Calling apes monkeys (which again they still technically are) would probably sound as awkward as that I guess.

As my primatology professor would say whenever these sorts of taxonomic conundrums come up, taxonomy is simply how humans categorize things to make it easier to understand. The monkeys don't care!

Simply, if we want to call both tamarins and guenons "monkeys", but want to call gorillas "apes", that's alright because taxonomy is a very subjective subject anyways and relies on categorizing things that often don't neatly fit into categories. Personally, I would argue, if we want to label everything as a monophyletic group, I'd rather there be no group titled "monkeys", treating OW Monkeys and NW Monkeys separately, than including apes as monkeys. We already have a name for the group containing monkeys and apes- Anthropoidea.
 
As my primatology professor would say whenever these sorts of taxonomic conundrums come up, taxonomy is simply how humans categorize things to make it easier to understand. The monkeys don't care!

Simply, if we want to call both tamarins and guenons "monkeys", but want to call gorillas "apes", that's alright because taxonomy is a very subjective subject anyways and relies on categorizing things that often don't neatly fit into categories. Personally, I would argue, if we want to label everything as a monophyletic group, I'd rather there be no group titled "monkeys", treating OW Monkeys and NW Monkeys separately, than including apes as monkeys. We already have a name for the group containing monkeys and apes- Anthropoidea.

Sometimes I just call nonhuman primates "Kongs" as slang, in the style of Nintendo.
 
Last week, I heard this conversation while looking at a rhino:
Child - "What happened to the other horn?"
Parent - "Maybe it fell off."
There was a sign directly in front of them which clearly said "Greater One-horned Rhinoceros".
 
Although I have never personally seen it they post lots of warning signs so someone must have done it previously

Larger primates (Gorillas) have sign around with strict warnings to not show them videos (tablets/phones etc) as the content of the video would upset them



Worst thing I have even witnessed are those know-it-all types
I dont mind (and often welcome) when someone else can ID/name the specific animals etc
But I have seen some people get so hung up they take to arguing with children.... why??? Just to insist they are correct (its like even if they are right they are just annoying more than anything else)
 
At Pakawi Park today. First thing when we walked in, a guy and his kids throwing food at the chimpanzees.
I went to get someone, as the girl walked out with me, she luckily saw him throwing again.
And when she spoke to him saying he can't feed the animals, he's like 'oh???'
His wife had a full bag of bread they were throwing from!
 
They technically aren’t wrong though.
In fairness, I can understand smaller apes such as gibbons or young great ape species as they can be quite small. For me, the line is completely crossed with silverback gorillas, adult chimpanzees and large orangutan with fully fledged cheek pads. I'm gonna give a free pass to bonobos as: 1. They aren't as common as the other apes and 2. They are much smaller than chimps and are often referred to as the pygmy version of them.
 
and 2. They are much smaller than chimps and are often referred to as the pygmy version of them.
"Much smaller" might be a bit of an exaggeration...

Bonobos:
"Adult males weighing about 39 kg (86.0 lb) and, on average, measuring 730 to 830 mm (2.40 to 2.72 ft) tall while adult females weigh about 31 kg (68.3 lb) and are about 700 to 760 mm (2.3 to 2.49 ft) tall."
Chimpanzees:
"Adult males, on average, weighing 40 to 60 kg (88.2 to 132 lb) and females, on average, weighing 32 to 47 kg (70.5 to 104 lb). Males and females have an average height of 816 mm (2.68 ft)."
Source for both:
Primate Factsheets and Resources
 
People feeding the animals biscuits. Why?! Why would you do this knowing it harms the animals. And even worse shouting. The Bengal Tiger exhibit in my local zoo has CROWDS of people. They just shout and yell (and try to roar even) for the Bengal Tigers to come towards them and when they do they scream and I mean literally just stretch their vocal chords in a way that I didn't know possible. One could argue that they are appreciating the species. But imagine trying to actually see a tiger while around 30 "civilized" apes push, hoop and howl.
 
For me what gets under my skin the most are the people who go to the zoo and spend about an hour there, then proceed to complain with something along the lines of "No animals out or visible waaa, so much walking waaa, so boring waaa." Well would you look at that, it seems as though when you go into a zoo without a plan for the day, look at an exhibit for all of 3 seconds, and rush your way through in order to go home because you can't stand to be outside with no AC for longer than 5 minutes, the zoo as a result becomes a less than stellar experience. Unsurprisingly, this was a complaint I mostly heard from parents, who were probably dragged to the zoo by their kids who wouldn't shut up about it, only came to see the basic ABC animals and go home instead of well idk maybe spending quality time with their children at a facility that offers excellent educational opportunities perhaps :rolleyes:.

The zoo was always an all-day experience for me, I'd go in right when it opens and leave during closing time. I cannot fathom the idea of spending so little time at the zoo, but somehow this was how every single one of my friends visited the zoo with their families in the past. I was able to take them for a day long trip during the summer and all of them had a much more positive and memorable experience. I've come to realize that this is why most people have a lackluster opinion about zoos, they just never bothered to truly appreciate it in its entirety.
 
For me what gets under my skin the most are the people who go to the zoo and spend about an hour there, then proceed to complain with something along the lines of "No animals out or visible waaa, so much walking waaa, so boring waaa." Well would you look at that, it seems as though when you go into a zoo without a plan for the day, look at an exhibit for all of 3 seconds, and rush your way through in order to go home because you can't stand to be outside with no AC for longer than 5 minutes, the zoo as a result becomes a less than stellar experience. Unsurprisingly, this was a complaint I mostly heard from parents, who were probably dragged to the zoo by their kids who wouldn't shut up about it, only came to see the basic ABC animals and go home instead of well idk maybe spending quality time with their children at a facility that offers excellent educational opportunities perhaps :rolleyes:.

The zoo was always an all-day experience for me, I'd go in right when it opens and leave during closing time. I cannot fathom the idea of spending so little time at the zoo, but somehow this was how every single one of my friends visited the zoo with their families in the past. I was able to take them for a day long trip during the summer and all of them had a much more positive and memorable experience. I've come to realize that this is why most people have a lackluster opinion about zoos, they just never bothered to truly appreciate it in its entirety.
Always has and always will be. I will spend as long as I can at a zoo, end of story. I know the people you mean. Parents who just want to post on social media that they're having family time by going to a zoo but instead just whining for a few hours before taking a group selfie to make out that they've had an amazing day!
 
Always has and always will be. I will spend as long as I can at a zoo, end of story. I know the people you mean. Parents who just want to post on social media that they're having family time by going to a zoo but instead just whining for a few hours before taking a group selfie to make out that they've had an amazing day!
Exactly this, it is always so disheartening to see an excited kid who obviously has an immense fascination with animals be shut down by an uninterested, dismissive, phone addicted parent who can't be bothered to support their child in something they're ambitious about. It really isn't about being a young parent, but about being a lazy parent who wants to spend the least amount of time, effort, money, and energy on a sorry excuse for a special day for your child.
 
For me what gets under my skin the most are the people who go to the zoo and spend about an hour there, then proceed to complain with something along the lines of "No animals out or visible waaa, so much walking waaa, so boring waaa."
Oh yeah I totally forgot that one

Esp on a BUSY day / holiday when people act all surprised the animals are hiding (esp in hot summer months) or complain about lining up and waiting for food

Its like want to see arctic wolves running around? Come in November when its chilly and the restaurant is abandoned except for the odd enthusiast sitting on patio watching them with you



I also have heard people complaining when animals are not on display (eg bird flu and covid for animal protection or during mating / hibernating seasons)
 
Oh yeah I totally forgot that one

Esp on a BUSY day / holiday when people act all surprised the animals are hiding (esp in hot summer months) or complain about lining up and waiting for food

Its like want to see arctic wolves running around? Come in November when its chilly and the restaurant is abandoned except for the odd enthusiast sitting on patio watching them with you



I also have heard people complaining when animals are not on display (eg bird flu and covid for animal protection or during mating / hibernating seasons)
Or even better when they complain about animals being out in weather that they believe to be harmful but is completely natural to the animal. You must be correct dear random visitor, the Chilean Flamingoes, Siberian Tigers, and Amur Leopards most certainly do not experience any cold temperatures in the wild, letting them enjoy the snow is cruel >:(
 
As I think I said on its news thread when I gave updates on what new things I saw there, earlier this year, I had a wonderful day at the Detroit Zoo. Same couldn't be said for all the zoo normies. Everyone was loudly complaining about how none of the ABC animals were out, and I even heard several people call it a ripoff. Well, three were out, but the lion was sleeping, the red panda was very high up in a tree, and the zebras were also sleeping (with a lot of people ready to throw punches with the zoo for displaying "dead zebras" because they thought horses only slept standing up - at least I wasn't the only person laughing because some people who probably actually have horses were like "how do we tell them?") How dare animals do their natural behavior that they frequently do! Meanwhile, I got really good views of the aviary birds, vultures, cassowary, river otters, fruit bats, and wolverines, and had a great time. In fact, almost everything in the reptile house was active, a rarity for any reptile area, not that any of the parents who seemed to be in there for their kids only begrudgingly cared.

Indeed, that's the main thing that annoys me about zoo guests: they just want to only see the animals they know already for some reason and actively avoid any potentially interesting species they've never heard of by walking right past them. Maybe once or twice at the Detroit Zoo's free flight aviary, I've seen people literally speedwalk to the end, as if they don't care about birds at all and are just using it as an exit after getting Instagramable butterfly house selfies. As a bird fanatic, I wish zoogoers could learn to love animals that aren't large mammals.

Indeed, if I ever start my dream zoo, I am literally going to have a sign at the very front that tells people to read the signs so that they can learn stuff in addition to having fun. It also could maybe shut up other questions - I anticipate a lot of "where are the primates and big cats?" from people who won't understand that animals require a lot of care and should be cared for correctly instead of cruelly, and those are not in my wheelhouse. I'm really scared of people getting mad about a lack of ABC animals there haha - can already imagine the future reviews going "no elephants but SEVERAL cockroach exhibits?!" or complaining that my hoofstock yard isn't vanilla African animals like giraffes (I'll probably adopt some surplus unwanted "not as trophy" game farm industry axis deer, barasingha, nilgai, and blackbuck that would otherwise never get a home and make a good Indian grassland shining a light on what are usually just considered tiger prey but are fascinating in their own right).
 
Indeed, if I ever start my dream zoo, I am literally going to have a sign at the very front that tells people to read the signs so that they can learn stuff in addition to having fun. It also could maybe shut up other questions - I anticipate a lot of "where are the primates and big cats?" from people who won't understand that animals
Something about having a sign telling people to read signs sounds a lot like preaching to the choir to me...
 
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