Chimpanzees in the UK

Pertinax said:
That's nice for him. Hope they can integrate him with some others, but at least he'll see other Chimps again anyway.
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He's already seen them and hopefully he is going to live in Tubman's band of retired gentlemen in a newly extended enclosure.
 
The local paper ( South Wales Evening Post ) had an article about Toto last night . Quote - ' Toto is already showing signs of a positive outcome to integrate with Tubman and Jason , but total integration will only occur when the sanctuary and carers feel the time is right '

No mention of Charley . I wonder if they still have him ?
 
ShonenJake13 said:
Well, I guess I'll continue the trend following MagpieGoose doing orangutans and rhinos, and Elephas doing elephants. Chimpanzees in the UK!

These are the 11 zoos in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland that house chimps.

Belfast Zoo = 2.6 (Andy Lewis, Kim Lizzie Sophie Phoebe Pixie Lucy)

Blair Drummond Safari Park and Adventure Park = 1.5 (Chippie, Blossom Jill Copper Rosie Tupelo)

Chester Zoo = 7.12 (Boris Wilson Nicky Friday Dylan Eric Carlos, Zee-Zee Chrissie Patti Tina Sarah Sally Layla Alice Rosie Halfpenny Farthing Mandy)

Colchester Zoo = 3.5 (Pippin Tombe Tumba, Billy-Joe Tara Kora Tekita Talia)

Drayton Manor Park Zoo = 1.0 (Toto)

Dudley Zoo = 0.7 (Fanny Mandy Malaika Barbie Binti Mali Banika)

Edinburgh Zoo = 9.9 (David Louis Qafzeh Paul Rene Frek Kindia Liberius Velu, Cindy Pearl Lucy Eva Sophie Lianne Heleen Kilimi Edith)

Monkey World = 26.29 (Hananya Simon Semach Arfur Paddy Busta Gamba Micky Bart Bryan Rodders Ben Butch Buxom Çarli Freddy Gypsy Kyko Jestah Jimmy Mojo Pacito Paco Rocky Sammy Seamus, Cherri Peggy Trudy Thelma Johni Patricia Zeynep Tutti Jess Kuki Kiki Eveline Marjoline Valerie Athena Beth Bixa Cindy Clin Cathy Chatta Eddi Grisby Hebe Lola Peppa Zoe Sally Lulu Ash)

Twycross Zoo = 9.12 (Danny William Tommy Peter Jambo Mongo Flynn Jomar Kibali, Samantha Holly Rosie Coco Genet Tuli Tojo Choppers Victoria Lottie Josie Noddy)

Wales Ape and Monkey Sanctuary = 6.1 (Tubman Jason Ronnie Fergus Charley Bili, Nakima)

Welsh Mountain Zoo = 5.6(?) info needed

Wingham Wildlife Park = 2.6 (Lucas Fritz, Agatha Abby Tara Faye Elvira Georgia)

ZSL Whipsnade Zoo = 4.2 (Nikki Grant Phil Elvis, Koko Bonnie)



Anyone wanna help me flesh these out?
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Have you got an updated list for this year? :)
 
There are now only 15 chimpanzees at Edinburgh Zoo - Louis, Lucy, Eva, Sophie, Lianne, Heleen, Qafzeh, Kilimi, Rene, Paul, Frek, Edith, Liberius, Velu and Masindi.
 
qsa_vortex said:
Have you got an updated list for this year? :)
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Belfast Zoo - Kim Phoebe Sophie Lucy Pixie

Blair Drummond Safari Park and Adventure Park - Chippy, Jill

Chester Zoo - Boris Nicky Friday Dylan Eric Carlos Jeff, Rosie Farthing Mandy Sally Layla Alice Zee-Zee Vila Chrissie Patti Stevie Annie Toyah

Colchester Zoo - Tombe Tumba, Tara Kora Talia

Dudley Zoo - Fanny Mandy Barbie Malaika Binti Mali Banika

Edinburgh Zoo - Louis Qafzeh Rene Paul Frek Liberius Velu, Lucy Eva Sophie Lianne Heleen Kilimi Edith Masindi

Monkey World - Busta Jestah Buxom Micky Butch Kyko Mojo Rocky Freddy Pacito Paco Gamba Arfur Hananya Simon Çarli Semach Seamus Bryan Rodders Kangoo Bart, Bixa Cindy Grisby Cathy Beth Clin Peppa Lola Naree Chatta Trudy Cherri Athena Lulu Jess Valerie Eveline Marjoline Honey Kuki Sasha Zeynep Patricia Johni Tutti Kiki Eddi Ash Thelma

Twycross Zoo - Jambo Flynn Jomar Peter Tommy Kibali, Coco Samantha Holly Josie Victoria Tuli

Wales Ape and Monkey Sanctuary - Toto Bili Twmi Fergus Ronnie, Nakima

Welsh Mountain Zoo - Sixpence, Mabel Menolly Tuppence Jill Katie Jessie Euro Rupee Dalasi

Wingham Wildlife Park - Fritz Lucas, Georgia Elvira Faye Agatha Tara Elizabeth

ZSL Whipsnade Zoo - Phil Grant Elvis, Koko Bonnie
 
Reptile House said:
Can more than one male co-exist in the same enclosure? Are these not like gorillas where you have a dominant male?
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Chester has multiple males and I think most zoos do, there is usually a dominant male but they can be challenged and overturned by another chimp if one is stronger so I think zoos may limit the amount of males they keep to avoid injury and possible death
 
Reptile House said:
Can more than one male co-exist in the same enclosure? Are these not like gorillas where you have a dominant male?
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Yes, chimps naturally live in multi-male/multi-female groups. It’s actually very important for group dynamics to have multiple males, although it can become challenging for zoos to manage when hierarchy changes occur. But again, this is completely natural chimp behaviour.
 
Does anyone know how easy it is to establish a new chimpanzee troop? It seemed over the years more zoos have lost them then gained them and I was just wondering why that is
 
Am I right in thinking Toto at WAMS is older than Boris at Chester? I’ve heard a number of people say that Boris is the oldest male in the UK, but I think Toto is 58, whereas Boris will be 57.
 
Charles said:
Does anyone know how easy it is to establish a new chimpanzee troop? It seemed over the years more zoos have lost them then gained them and I was just wondering why that is
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Do any zoos have pure groups? I may be wrong but I was under the impression most captive chimpanzees are of varying subspecies and so aren't really ideal for Conservation efforts as opposed to say - captive groups of other great apes like Bornean and Sumatran orangutans, Bonobos or Western Lowland Gorillas.
 
Fresco3 said:
Do any zoos have pure groups? I may be wrong but I was under the impression most captive chimpanzees are of varying subspecies and so aren't really ideal for Conservation efforts as opposed to say - captive groups of other great apes like Bornean and Sumatran orangutans, Bonobos or Western Lowland Gorillas.
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Several zoos do have pure groups of chimpanzees (or atleast mostly pure groups) however as has been noted elsewhere on the forum, only breeding from pure animals is not sustainable in the long term.

There are three subspecies of Bornean orang-utan, so there is no guarantee that (infact extremely unlikely) the captive populations are pure. Same applies to Sumatran orangutan in zoos, with a paper being published last year that showed part of the American population is hybridised with Tapanuli orangutan.
 
MagpieGoose said:
Several zoos do have pure groups of chimpanzees (or atleast mostly pure groups) however as has been noted elsewhere on the forum, only breeding from pure animals is not sustainable in the long term.

There are three subspecies of Bornean orang-utan, so there is no guarantee that (infact extremely unlikely) the captive populations are pure. Same applies to Sumatran orangutan in zoos, with a paper being published last year that showed part of the American population is hybridised with Tapanuli orangutan.
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Okay. But for example, you would now expect identified individuals in the NA population with Tapanuli DNA to be phased out of any Sumatran breeding programme.

So I think it makes sense if chimpanzees are being slowly phased out for that reason in several zoos where populations are very hybridised. Especially considering how often they are divided into subspecies as opposed to say orangutans where conservation seems to be very focused at a species level and taxonomy of subspecies is heavily debated.

Chimpanzees are more similar to gorillas in that regard. The subspecies are rather distinct and clear.
 
Fresco3 said:
Okay. But for example, you would now expect identified individuals in the NA population with Tapanuli DNA to be phased out of any Sumatran breeding programme.

So I think it makes sense if chimpanzees are being slowly phased out for that reason in several zoos where populations are very hybridised. Especially considering how often they are divided into subspecies as opposed to say orangutans where conservation seems to be very focused at a species level and taxonomy of subspecies is heavily debated.

Chimpanzees are more similar to gorillas in that regard. The subspecies are rather distinct and clear.
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There are far too many hybrids within the worldwide population to form a sustainable purebred population.
 
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