Mixed species exhibit ideas

FBBird said:
Much depends on the size of enclosure. I would expect both cranes and storks to grab any weaver or starling fledgelings within reach
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Here's the enclosure in question. Only a little bit larger than visible in the photo:

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Photo by @snowleopard
 
Imitating Houston's gorillas and red river hog exhibit, could gorillas and warthogs coexist using the same design aspects and principles?

I'm also still curious if a coral reef exhibit could be built mixing little blue penguins and nay particular Australian fish or other aquatic creatures, and if not then why. Would the water needed to maintain the reef, the heat/temperature of the exhibit, the filtration system, or the coral itself be dangerous for the penguins? If so, what if faux coral is used instead.
 
BenFoxster said:
I'm also still curious if a coral reef exhibit could be built mixing little blue penguins and nay particular Australian fish or other aquatic creatures, and if not then why. Would the water needed to maintain the reef, the heat/temperature of the exhibit, the filtration system, or the coral itself be dangerous for the penguins? If so, what if faux coral is used instead.
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Little Blue Penguins are not tropical penguins.
 
BenFoxster said:
I'm also still curious if a coral reef exhibit could be built mixing little blue penguins and nay particular Australian fish or other aquatic creatures, and if not then why. Would the water needed to maintain the reef, the heat/temperature of the exhibit, the filtration system, or the coral itself be dangerous for the penguins? If so, what if faux coral is used instead.
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Penguins and tropical reefs need different temperatures. A subtropical reef might work, but it would be a lot of extra effort for potentially low return and difficulty successfully maintaining the reef. Between penguin propensity for ingesting foreign objects and the additional challenges to keep the tank clean and maintained well, I don't think it would be work it.
 
FBBird said:
Much depends on the size of enclosure. I would expect both cranes and storks to grab any weaver or starling fledgelings within reach
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I'm interested that you've had predatory experiences of cranes and passerines because I have not. Can you share more? Actually I wouldn't think twice about adding crowned cranes to an exhibit housing small weavers. But black stork or trumpeter hornbill with passerines? Bad news for me. I hadn't realized there were black storks at Binder Park, I thought the only remaining ones were in Louisviville Zoo.
 
Torgos said:
I'm interested that you've had predatory experiences of cranes and passerines because I have not. Can you share more? Actually I wouldn't think twice about adding crowned cranes to an exhibit housing small weavers. But black stork or trumpeter hornbill with passerines? Bad news for me. I hadn't realized there were black storks at Binder Park, I thought the only remaining ones were in Louisviville Zoo.
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Not sure about crowned cranes, but Sandhill and Whooping Cranes feed on passerines in the wild regularly.
 
Imitating Houston's gorillas and red river hog exhibit, could gorillas and warthogs coexist using the same design aspects and principles?
 
Great Argus said:
Should also still be at Central Park, Dallas, and Fort Wayne Children's Zoo.
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Per ZIMS there is only one black stork left in North America, housed at Central Park. Guess I should have found that out before I posted.
Cranes would never eat passerines, they are too perfect. I may be biased in their favor..........
 
Would Rough skinned newts, Yellow-spotted salamander, Blue spotted salamnder, Red spotted newts, Eastern newts and Wood frogs coexist.
 
Would a Tropical African themed Aviary-Dome with the following species work? Most of these species would ideally be breeding:
  • Congo Peafowl, Afropavo congensis (1.3)
  • Snowy-Crowned Robin-Chat, Cossypha niveicapilla (1.2)
  • Red-Fronted Parrot, Poicephalus gulielmi (2.5)
  • Upper-Guinea Bulbul, Pycnonotus barbatus inornatus (2.7)
  • Lady Ross’s Turaco, Tauraco rossae (1.1)
  • Buffon's Green Turaco, Tauraco persa buffoni (1.2)
  • White-Crested Turaco, Tauraco leucolophus (0.2)
  • Bruce's Green Pigeon, Treron waalia (2.3)
  • Blue-Headed Wood Dove, Turtur brehmeri (3.3)
  • Speckled Mousebird, Colius striatus nigricollis (1.1)
  • Splendid Starling, Lamprotornis splendidus (1.3)
  • Emerald Starling, Lamprotornis iris (2.3)
  • Violet-Backed Starling, Cinnyricinclus leucogaster (1.3)
Other Questions:
Will there be a risk of Hybridisation between any species (Starlings, Turacos)?
Are any Numbers not suitable for a breeding group?
What species wouldn’t do well in a walkthrough?

Thanks in Advance :D
 
Dr. Loxodonta said:
  • Lady Ross’s Turaco, Tauraco rossae (1.1)
  • Buffon's Green Turaco, Tauraco persa buffoni (1.2)
  • White-Crested Turaco, Tauraco leucolophus (0.2)
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These guys will all be beating each other up - too many turacos. It's either a pair of one species or careful introductions with a couple of individuals of different species. And yes, they can hybridize if they happen to actually like each other.

I'm not sure if the starlings hybridize - I know several zoos keep Emerald and Violet-backed together.
 
Dr. Loxodonta said:
Would a Tropical African themed Aviary-Dome with the following species work? Most of these species would ideally be breeding:
  • Congo Peafowl, Afropavo congensis (1.3)
  • Snowy-Crowned Robin-Chat, Cossypha niveicapilla (1.2)
  • Red-Fronted Parrot, Poicephalus gulielmi (2.5)
  • Upper-Guinea Bulbul, Pycnonotus barbatus inornatus (2.7)
  • Lady Ross’s Turaco, Tauraco rossae (1.1)
  • Buffon's Green Turaco, Tauraco persa buffoni (1.2)
  • White-Crested Turaco, Tauraco leucolophus (0.2)
  • Bruce's Green Pigeon, Treron waalia (2.3)
  • Blue-Headed Wood Dove, Turtur brehmeri (3.3)
  • Speckled Mousebird, Colius striatus nigricollis (1.1)
  • Splendid Starling, Lamprotornis splendidus (1.3)
  • Emerald Starling, Lamprotornis iris (2.3)
  • Violet-Backed Starling, Cinnyricinclus leucogaster (1.3)
Other Questions:
Will there be a risk of Hybridisation between any species (Starlings, Turacos)?
Are any Numbers not suitable for a breeding group?

Thanks in Advance :D
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As someone who’s tried to mix multiple turaco species, I’ve been told (as @Great Argus stated in the walkthrough thread) that mixing multiple turaco species is not the greatest idea. Not that it 100% wouldn’t work, but rather you’d have to be incredibly carefully monitoring such a mix to ensure they don’t get overly aggressive with one another.
 
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Van Beal said:
I see you’ve posted this in the walkthrough thread as well, and as someone who’s tried to mix multiple turaco species, I’ve been told (as @Great Argus stated in the walkthrough thread) that mixing multiple turaco species is not the greatest idea. Not that it 100% wouldn’t work, but rather you’d have to be incredibly carefully monitoring such a mix to ensure they don’t get overly aggressive with one another.
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In Doué (France) there used to be (I don't know if it still exists) a mix of several Turaco species in the Okapi reserve.

According to me the other species aren't concerning for a mix.
There may be an hybridization risk for the Starlings, but one may remind that these species are of low conservation concern. Otherwise you should choose birds of the same gender to avoid the hybrids.
 
Dr. Loxodonta said:
Would a Tropical African themed Aviary-Dome with the following species work? Most of these species would ideally be breeding:
  • Congo Peafowl, Afropavo congensis (1.3)
  • Snowy-Crowned Robin-Chat, Cossypha niveicapilla (1.2)
  • Red-Fronted Parrot, Poicephalus gulielmi (2.5)
  • Upper-Guinea Bulbul, Pycnonotus barbatus inornatus (2.7)
  • Lady Ross’s Turaco, Tauraco rossae (1.1)
  • Buffon's Green Turaco, Tauraco persa buffoni (1.2)
  • White-Crested Turaco, Tauraco leucolophus (0.2)
  • Bruce's Green Pigeon, Treron waalia (2.3)
  • Blue-Headed Wood Dove, Turtur brehmeri (3.3)
  • Speckled Mousebird, Colius striatus nigricollis (1.1)
  • Splendid Starling, Lamprotornis splendidus (1.3)
  • Emerald Starling, Lamprotornis iris (2.3)
  • Violet-Backed Starling, Cinnyricinclus leucogaster (1.3)
Other Questions:
Will there be a risk of Hybridisation between any species (Starlings, Turacos)?
Are any Numbers not suitable for a breeding group?

Thanks in Advance :D
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I think you could possibly get away with multiple turacos of different species so long as all birds are female. Males will cause chaos. I'd choose either white-crested or Ross's and miss the Buffons which have reputation for being more aggressive
Some of your species need to be kept as pairs - extra female robin chat will be severely harassed/killed by pair. Not sure if you can have more than one pair of bulbuls.
You can have big group of mousebirds and they will much prefer life in a group.
Splendid starlings may harass/kill emerald and violet-backed, they can be real jerks. Pair up the unpaired females!
Pigeons and doves should be fine.
Parrots may be fine, not sure if they'll be tolerant at breeding season. Red-fronted is an interesting species choice that most people would not think of!
As with so many cases the size and complexity of the space will be critical to success.
 
Van Beal said:
As someone who’s tried to mix multiple turaco species, I’ve been told (as @Great Argus stated in the walkthrough thread) that mixing multiple turaco species is not the greatest idea. Not that it 100% wouldn’t work, but rather you’d have to be incredibly carefully monitoring such a mix to ensure they don’t get overly aggressive with one another.
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Torgos said:
I think you could possibly get away with multiple turacos of different species so long as all birds are female. Males will cause chaos. I'd choose either white-crested or Ross's and miss the Buffons which have reputation for being more aggressive
Some of your species need to be kept as pairs - extra female robin chat will be severely harassed/killed by pair. Not sure if you can have more than one pair of bulbuls.
You can have big group of mousebirds and they will much prefer life in a group.
Splendid starlings may harass/kill emerald and violet-backed, they can be real jerks. Pair up the unpaired females!
Pigeons and doves should be fine.
Parrots may be fine, not sure if they'll be tolerant at breeding season. Red-fronted is an interesting species choice that most people would not think of!
As with so many cases the size and complexity of the space will be critical to success.
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Haliaeetus said:
In Doué (France) there used to be (I don't know if it still exists) a mix of several Turaco species in the Okapi reserve.

According to me the other species aren't concerning for a mix.
There may be an hybridization risk for the Starlings, but one may remind that these species are of low conservation concern. Otherwise you should choose birds of the same gender to avoid the hybrids.
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Thank you for all of this information, I did have some doubts especially with Turacos :p
 
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I have a few new ideas and I was wondering if they were possible ( If these were already mentioned I apologize for bringing them up again)
1. White rhino, Giraffe, Impala, Zebra, Ostrich, and baboons - a 4.5 acre paddock which a smaller 0.5 acre escape pen that’s separated. The main paddock is complete with a huge community pool, a mud wallow, and a rock island for the baboons to escape from the other animals
2. North American River Otter and Big horned sheep/Mountain goats( which one is better?) - A 1.25 acre slope with about an acre of it is rocky for the sheep/goats and a huge deep pool of the otters and a den that has indoor viewing
Would these work? Thank you for any replies!
 
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