For a small place that's a huge achievement! Good on them for doing it.
Opinions may vary about that.
Opinions may vary about that.
Agree, it’s hard to articulate but this rubs me the wrong way. Firstly, for a species with such low genetic diversity, I would imagine continuing the insurance population locally would be first priority - I’m not sure if their either of their cubs were excess to the insurance population’s needs? Sending one away seems strange.
Secondly, while rewilding is an amazing and noble effort for any species, the logistics and costs involved for rewilding an African species born in Australia seem to potentially outweigh the benefits - i.e. for rewilding or breed and release Cheetah, I’m not sure an Australian facility is the best option.
Lastly, this may sound strange, but it gives me mixed opinions about what the future of captive Cheetah would be here in Australia. Assuming their Cheetah in Africa continues to succeed, while no doubt amazing, it sets the bar high for any facility in Australia, and will no doubt pose questions from the public and media. I can just imagine the “Why don’t you release your cheetahs? Another place did it” etc.
I don’t mean to downgrade the inherent positivity of this news, it is certainly great to see any rewilding project, I just don’t know if this is the right situation for it. I hope this makes sense!
Not a fan ?
I don't do "fandom" anywhere very well but I am a moral supporter of the work of B&KB and the WCCC.
Like all adults we do sometimes hold varying opinions on various subjects.
Rewilding is always expensive, but its an important step to take. Once its done and proven it can be done. There isnt really a need to keep doing it. Only in the event that the species collapses. In any case the cheetah was bred here, then sent to a centre where they rewind cheetah.
For me I see it as an important issue for conservation. The big arguments against zoos having insurance populations. What use are they if needed ? If we can breed then send an animal away to be successfully rewilded. Then it validates that species being held in captivity in a global context.
As for the genetics, im not sure what the implications of its genetics for the regional population. There are captive chetah lines that have genetics that would no longer be found in the wild. So for a species where a genetic bottle neck has occurred to such a degree. Moving genetics from captive populations back to wild populations. Actually is important and widens the gene pool. There were cheetah being kept and bred before the population collapsed. Or from areas/populations were local extinction has occurred. Being able to reintroduce these genes back is beneficial.
Most people in the zoo industry/wildlife professions know rewilding is possible, i.e. I don’t believe it has to be “proven”. It’s been proven countless times. While I agree there isn’t a necessary need for constant rewilding, unless in cases such as the Cheetahs from Africa taken to India to restart an Asiatic population, what is important to remember is that zoos are under constant scrutiny in the public eye.
People involved in insurance populations know the use and validation is already there. There are countless reasons as to why insurance populations are important, to name one in Australia, geographic separation from wild populations of exotic animals creates an important biosecurity barrier. There is nothing that needs to be “proven” here, only further education to be done to answer such questions.
I simply fear this will open all of us in the industry to countless unneeded comparisons and judgement, which of course, as I said here, can be explained, but it is troublesome.
While I think it's great for that individual cheetah, maybe the presumably considerable cost in getting an animal back to Africa could have been spent on wild cheetah in the first place?
My perspective is that I see this Cheetah as an ambassador of people’s conservation dollars in the same way captive Cheetah are ambassadors of their wild counterparts.
Many zoo’s in the region support ex situ conservation projects and visitors are told upon visiting that they’ve contributed to conservation by paying admission. It’s a nice idea in theory; but in reality, it’s standard practice and goes in one ear and out the other. The general public are there for a day out first and foremost. Zoos can do all the posts they want about Anatolian shepherd dogs etc. but the vast majority of people aren’t interested.
Rewilding however is dramatic. It’s direct. It inspires people and feeds their imaginations. It sends a positive message about the role captive facilities play that is unmatched. Is this Cheetah of tangible benefit to the wild population? No. But one could argue that was never the point.
Eloquently put as always. I suppose this is a good reminder to public supporting conservation as to what can be accomplished with their support, I just don’t know what the response will be among other zoos here in the region. The pessimist in me envisions everyone trying to one up each other, how likely that is I don’t know.
Announced via Instagram, Emmy has given birth to four Cheetah cubs at the centre. The post mentions they’re five weeks old, and have been sexed as 2.2. The post also mentions the cubs with undergo the re-wilding process that their older sister Edie participated in.
It’s encouraging to hear of their repeat success in breeding Cheetah. The absence of big cats presumably aids their breeding attempts.
It’s exciting to hear they too will follow in Edie’s footsteps.
Absolutely agree - I’ve only seen the front of the centre, and it’s more built up around it then I expected being out in Wilberforce, but that’s obviously not having too much of an impact on the breeding there. Hopefully they’ll share more of the re-wilding process as it’s undertaken for these cubs, given that it was successful with Edie
So they now have 6 clouded leopards? Share some with the rest of the region, why don't they!I don’t believe it’s mentioned elsewhere in the chat, but Tai and Cinta the Clouded Leopards were born on the 9th of December 2019
Those are the original two animals imported in 2020.So they now have 6 clouded leopards? Share some with the rest of the region, why don't they!