African Elephants in Europe 2024

I saw some elephants which live alone like Kariba(Olmese) and Boten(La Flechée), Bamba(Planéte Sauvage). Are there plans to send them company?

And the question of Hodenhagen's elephants is still open.
"Does anybody have information about that why the African elephants are very skinny in Hodenhagen Serengeti Park? Jumaane, Nelly, Veri, Umtali..."
 
I suspect it is just due to facility management.

Given that you can usually see hay available to them in most of the photos on social media, I suspect that they likely have a larger portion of the elephants daily diet cut in with straw compared to many other facilities, which would account for why their animals look so thin.

While I do agree that their animals do look rather thin in contrast to many other facilities, they honestly don’t look entirely dissimilar from many wild elephants. Quite inversely, many zoos elephants tend to actually be a tad on the over conditioned side, being slightly more plump and less muscular than their wild counterparts. At Hodenhagen, the combo of being kept on the thinner side, but simultaneously having less muscle mass than a wild elephant, probably contributes to this as well.

Also interesting to note, but in recent photos, Bibi looks downright plump. Whether this is because she is pregnant, eating more than the others, or is given a different diet individually is anyone’s guess
 
How does one build better muscle conditions in elephants?

I assume one way is varying terrain to rly work out the legs
 
I suspect it is just due to facility management.

Given that you can usually see hay available to them in most of the photos on social media, I suspect that they likely have a larger portion of the elephants daily diet cut in with straw compared to many other facilities, which would account for why their animals look so thin.

While I do agree that their animals do look rather thin in contrast to many other facilities, they honestly don’t look entirely dissimilar from many wild elephants. Quite inversely, many zoos elephants tend to actually be a tad on the over conditioned side, being slightly more plump and less muscular than their wild counterparts. At Hodenhagen, the combo of being kept on the thinner side, but simultaneously having less muscle mass than a wild elephant, probably contributes to this as well.

Also interesting to note, but in recent photos, Bibi looks downright plump. Whether this is because she is pregnant, eating more than the others, or is given a different diet individually is anyone’s guess
I saw these photos in a facebook group. Momently I'm trying to find newer photos. Serengeti-Park Hodenhagen Freunde | Anbei Fotos von allen Elefanten im Serengeti-Park Hodenhagen vom 16 | Facebook
 
How does one build better muscle conditions in elephants?

I assume one way is varying terrain to rly work out the legs
It's a multitude of factors. Varied terrain, space to roam, social factors, having opportunities to use ALL their different muscle groups, and more.

Think, in the wild, elephants are often roaming multiple dozens of kilometers a day, moving between water, foraging, and resting areas, and even when staying relatively local due to resource abundance, they are still in motion almost constantly. They are getting up and down regularly, moving over varied terrain, up and down hills, through swamps and bogs, up and down riverbanks, etc...They're also doing all sorts of things to acquire food, pushing down and debarking trees, digging, getting down on their "knees" and tusking the earth, stretching, reaching, standing up on their hind legs, and going through all sorts of motions and forces to acquire the best and most preferential food.

They're also interacting dynamically with each other, bulls fight and travel vast distances in search of cycling cows, calves are playing and interacting with each other, cows are constantly moving the herd to where ever they need to go.

Think about how different that is, in comparison, to how life is for so many elephants in captivity. Even in spacious exhibits with varied topography, unless a solid enrichment and feeding plan is in place, there is not real incentive for the animals to move around much beyond shuffling 50 feet between their food and water sources. Lots of herds possess either only a single calf at a time, or are non reproductive altogether. There is no dynamic social structure or social excitement.

There is no real need to work different muscle groups, simply standing there and using their trunk to bring hay to their mouths is all that is needed for the average captive elephant. Many also eventually stop laying down (although this is thankfully becoming less and less common as husbandry advances occur) which further causes muscle atrophy.
 
I've had a look on elephant database regarding Gitana & Suzy move to WMSP(UK). Were they the only African elephants at Praia as there is a still a large herd there so were they mixed with Asian elephants?
 
I've had a look on elephant database regarding Gitana & Suzy move to WMSP(UK). Were they the only African elephants at Praia as there is a still a large herd there so were they mixed with Asian elephants?

They were the only Africans and no they were not mixed with any of the Asian elephant groups they hold.
 
Two good moves. Very nice for Boten to finally have companionship again, and overall, a good move for Tooth have a chance to breed the Valencia cows. Hopefully he will find success where Jambo and Kibo have, thus far, failed. (Although I am *extremely* curious to see if Jambo's natural breeding efforts in the recent past were successful. I guess we'll know within the next 15-21 months).

Also purely conjecture on my behalf, in regards to Botens transfer, but I can't help but wonder if this is perhaps a preclude to Ben eventually moving into a breeding situation. He's a founder and so far unrepresented, it would be very nice to give him the chance to breed.
 
Apart from the UK(Mondula at Blair Drummond) are there any single female African elephants living? Just a querie as WMSP recently took a pair of African females to build their herd(and persumably preventing one eventually living solitary) just interesting to know if there were
 
Apart from the UK(Mondula at Blair Drummond) are there any single female African elephants living? Just a querie as WMSP recently took a pair of African females to build their herd(and persumably preventing one eventually living solitary) just interesting to know if there were
Both Planéte Sauvage in France and Pakawi Park in Belgium also have a single female African elephant. There are a few more zoos with a single female African elephant, but in those cases they live with an Asian elephant female.
 
It’s just an official announcement of his arrival, even though it occurred a few months back at this point.

The one thing I find interesting, they make no mention of their youngest calf, Kibo, and he is also notably absent from all of the photos supplied of Jambo‘s introduction to the cows, which strikes me as somewhat unusual considering he’s not even two years old at this point. Hopefully all is well for him and he was just out of frame.
 
Would you be able to post what the news is, instead of just putting a link to it?
The news is that Jambo has successfully been introduced to Kimani and Kwanza, in the hopes of breeding them in the future. The zoo states in this article "By now, Jambo has become accustomed not only to the inner and outer enclosures, but also to the other members of the elephant herd, so guests arriving at the 35-hectare Zoo can already see the 3 animals together." The zoo made a video that was uploaded yesterday about Jambo's transport and arrival, and first few months in Sosto.

Here is the video right here:
 
A sad update, and unfortunately my worries were validated. The young bull Kibo at Sosto did indeed pass away at some point in 2023 :(

This seems to be a routine issue with Sosto, is a lack of transparency regarding deaths. There was never an announcement when their last elephant cow died either.
 
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