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The old plan had a good African area with a mix of rainforest and savannah animals, so they can still have lions and gorillas, both popular species. I'd assume it's the small Aussie gorilla population that also scared them off their gorilla plans but it is definitely going to be worth it to import some. Perhaps a smaller savannah exhibit with spare hoofstock from Monarto would work, while leaving giraffes for Monarto. Sri Lankan leopards may be in only 2 zoos for now but they're hopefully due to have a good future in Aus compared to sun bears at least

Since the plan still lists animals that only have a few old individuals left like dusky langurs and Malayan tapir that I doubt they'll continue with, I'd guess it'll probably be prone to change but a more knowledgable Zoochatter can give their 2 cents on that

The region would greatly benefit from another gorilla holder. Taronga has three adolescent males at dispersal age; and Melbourne’s troop would benefit from additional females imo. Taronga arguably has a 1.1 breeding pair given Frala is now 43 years old and Johari is a behavioural non-breeder. Mogo’s troop is in a similar state, with just one reproductive female.

Australasian now has four Sri Lankan leopard holders. In addition to Canberra and Darling Downs; Mogo and Tasmania have recently joined the programme by acquiring single first generation males. It would have/would be great to have Adelaide come on board also.

You’re correct Adelaide’s Malayan tapir will be their last. It’s the last in the region and the species has been designated as phase out. The future lies with Brazilian tapir, with imports planned in the future across the region.
What I don't understand is why an additional giraffe was moved to Adelaide not so long ago. Are there the same challenges with moving giraffes out of Adelaide as there is moving them out of other places in terms of bridges and powerlines?

Good point. Giraffes are typically transferred prior to two years of age due to their height. Powerlines can potentially be moved; but there would have to be reasonable justification for transferring adult giraffes given the availability of young specimens regionally.

The route between Adelaide Zoo and Monarto appears relatively simple logistically; though not sure what bridges etc are on route.
 
Agree with you @Zoofan15 about the region needing another Gorilla holder. If Adelaide really has decided not to go with being open anymore to being one perhaps Monarto might be considered (or Western Plains, Bongo would no longer be the tropical African anomale now that African Forest Buffaloes have all passed away).

Personally think the continuation of Giraffes at Adelaide makes a lot of sense (the area around the Elephant temple is not much more than 1,400 sq m of exhibit space (a bit more if space in the concreted off-display loading site behind was utilised too) so small in terms of a Giraffe and accompanying African ungulate or Ostrich paddock(s) even though would triple the size of the zoo's old current Giraffe paddock. Personally think maybe a small bachelor group of Gorillas would be the best for the site (although I know its a small area, but its a similar size to the main area of Taronga's Chimp' troop, perhaps if was three Gorillas maximum (maybe four) it would be an approvable living space for them).

My runaway pie-in-the-sky mind goes to the notion instead of using it as a space for two exhibits for Sri Lankan Leopards (could say that then Adelaide might perhaps have too much space devoted to big cat species and being light on ungulates or primates in the future).
That would mean the now abandoned habitat concept for them would still go ahead as additional living space for their expanded area for their Sumatran Tigers that ZSA seems passionate about wanting to show their commitment too further.

The other thought was perhaps Brazilian Tapirs in the future, or a planted rainforest space with (new import additions) Mandrills and (pie-in the sky bit again but not entirely ''out of the question'') Okapi and Bongo shared space (but again spatial needs would be greatly pushed to the limit/perhaps even unacceptable).

A what-if thought in the short-term while Adelaide is going through its transition phase before the future works start is while Amani and Mujambi's former home will be another Sumatran Tiger exhibit (both short-term and the site itself as part of their area come renovations). The adjoining 364 sq m fenced and roof covered trio of long enclosures recently used as holding areas for Mujambi etc at times (formerly Persian Leopards til 2010 and Jaguars too prior to that) could be used as a short-term home for a Sri Lankan Leopard if the internal barrier fences were taken down or access points cut into them for full use of all three cages. Even if just as a short term resident of the zoo for a few years if any of the Sri Lankan Leopards in the region were able to be potential residents there (or a further import planned to go to another zoo as part of the Sri Lankan Leopard program in the country, via Adelaide for 2 or 3 years), although do realise again 364 sq m is not the biggest of spaces, the exhibit is tall and can have a lot of climbing opportunity set up in the form of wooden poles and transplanted medium height trees. Just an idea, farfetched perhaps but Adelaide is now in a transition era over the next few years and with it sounding like Lions are not to be until their new very large exhibit is completed in a few years then perhaps a Sri Lankan Leopard would be a viable temporary addition to the zoo that means there is another big cat to be met at the zoo in next few years apart from their awesome Sumatran Tiger family and Serval(s). Would not be a first for Adelaide (their short term female Gorilla residents 2007-2008, and similar to Taronga with Indian Rhinos and Cheetahs, Perth's Chimp trio from Taronga 1998-1999 and Chester the white Tiger over the '95-'96 summer (also courtesy of Taronga), and Melbourne, Auckland and Taronga again with Giant Pandas in '88).

ps - thats fascinating about Asian Lions social groupings in the wild, had no idea. Would be good if there was a chance for our region to once again have two to four zoos at the very least interested in holding them, structured co-operatively around their natural female and cubs grouping and solitary or bachelor duo of males grouping (starting to understand a bit better why the unfortunate death in late 1993 of the Asian Lioness at Taronga by male Kutch happened if their social structuring is very different to their African conspecifics, although perhaps have missed the list of fatalities by male African Lions on African Lionesses in captivity, though assume its normally not an occurrence given they are the social grouped anomale of the wild cats).
 
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The zoo is now receiving backlash from some zoologists about Amani’s euthanasia. Some saying it wasn’t needed and she could have lived

Yeah it's received alot of pushback from the Adelaide public too (these lions were relatively high profile). Many are questioning why they euthanised Amani on the assumption her welfare would deteriorate? They should have atleast trialed her being solitary for a couple of weeks before making a decision regarding her welfare.

Especially considering her and Mujambi never mated and that they only really spent the twilight portion of their lives together. He was even separated from the females for a few years due to their aggressive behaviour towards him!

I think they definitely provided eachother companionship and socialisation, however I don't believe they held any sort of 'special' bond.

I personally believe adelaide euthanised amani in conjunction with Amani for three reasons -

  • Monarto is at full capacity thus would be unable to accept a lone geriatric female lion with multiple health concerns
  • Adelaide want to avoid the scrutiny of holding one lonely and elderly female lion. Environmentalists would have a field day, especially since the females of this species are notoriously social. You could imagine the tear jerking pictures of her looking tired and depressed (she's old of course she's going to look tired!)
  • Adelaide are in desperate need of exhibit space for their three now mature and energetic tiger cubs, which are now starting to irritate their mother. Amani could have survived another 2+ years. Which would push the limits of Adelaide's already cramped tiger facility with 5 adults.
Personally I don't think Amani should have been euthanised (maybe selfishly because I wanted her to break the age record) however I do partially understand Adelaide's reasoning for euthanising her.
 
The zoo is now receiving backlash from some zoologists about Amani’s euthanasia. Some saying it wasn’t needed and she could have lived

It’s certainly a difficult situation. Amani was noted to have had some health issues, as could be expected with a 23 year old lioness; but the primary reason for her euthanasia was of course from a welfare perspective.

Auckland Zoo have twice found themselves in this situation in recent years with lions. In 2018, Amani’s mother (Kura) and sister (Amira) were euthansied together - Kura on medical grounds; and Amira on welfare grounds. Kura had recently undergone a medical procedure, leaving Amira highly stressed in her absence. It was without a doubt the kindest decision to euthanise them together. Auckland Zoo did this again in 2021 with Zulu and Malik; days after Wellington Zoo euthansied sisters Djane and Zhara.

I know many people will be asking whether Adelaide Zoo could have (or should have) given Amani the opportunity to live life without Mujambi to assess whether she could have made the adjustment. My preference would have been for them to have tried this; but ultimately I trust the judgment and expertise of those who worked with the lions if they say that wasn’t an option. They knew them best.

I thought this line in the tribute was especially poignant:

“Amani, despite appearances, was very closely bonded to Mujambi. Yes, she swiped at him, growled and bossed him around, but she also wanted to be no further away from him than his shadow,” said Deb Barry, Curator of Adelaide Zoo.
 
I'm sure they knew Amani FAR BETTER than the keepers did.
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NOT!
My eyes rolled back so much, I did a backflip!!
It was really impressive - you guys should have seen it.

One “zoological expert” quoted in an article related the situation to his leopard (a primarily solitary species) that had coped fine to living without its mate. The same “expert” went on to suggest an alternative solution to euthanising Amani could have been to find her another “partner or friend”, clearly ignorant of the fact that an introduction of a lion to a 23 year old non-cycling lioness would likely see her fatally injured.

Within accredited Australasian zoos, some of the oldest lionesses to be successfully introduced to a new male was two 16 year old sisters at Auckland Zoo. They were successfully integrated with an eight year old male, following the death of their brother in 1996. One of the sisters died the following year; but the remaining 1.1 retired to Wellington Zoo in 1998 and lived happily together until the death of the then 22 year old female in 2002 (of natural causes). It should be noted that the male was described in articles as docile; and in any case, the lionesses (in addition to having each other for support during the introduction) were 16 years old, which is a lot younger than Amani’s 23 years.
 
Yeah it's received alot of pushback from the Adelaide public too (these lions were relatively high profile). Many are questioning why they euthanised Amani on the assumption her welfare would deteriorate? They should have atleast trialed her being solitary for a couple of weeks before making a decision regarding her welfare.

Especially considering her and Mujambi never mated and that they only really spent the twilight portion of their lives together. He was even separated from the females for a few years due to their aggressive behaviour towards him!

I think they definitely provided eachother companionship and socialisation, however I don't believe they held any sort of 'special' bond.

I personally believe adelaide euthanised amani in conjunction with Amani for three reasons -

  • Monarto is at full capacity thus would be unable to accept a lone geriatric female lion with multiple health concerns
  • Adelaide want to avoid the scrutiny of holding one lonely and elderly female lion. Environmentalists would have a field day, especially since the females of this species are notoriously social. You could imagine the tear jerking pictures of her looking tired and depressed (she's old of course she's going to look tired!)
  • Adelaide are in desperate need of exhibit space for their three now mature and energetic tiger cubs, which are now starting to irritate their mother. Amani could have survived another 2+ years. Which would push the limits of Adelaide's already cramped tiger facility with 5 adults.
Personally I don't think Amani should have been euthanised (maybe selfishly because I wanted her to break the age record) however I do partially understand Adelaide's reasoning for euthanising her.

I agree with this, it was a move out of mostly necessity.
They couldn't introduce another lion, not easily and it would be a PR nightmare if she died from it. But keeping a lone female lion by herself is not in and of itself going to go well either. Animal rights campaigners would be all over it.

The problem is that they should of lied and said she had health concerns and need to be put down. No one would of found out and the public would have felt better then putting a lion down because its old.

At least now they have an extra exhibit for the tigers. However, there are regional zoos going back into generics because there sumatrans have grown old and died. Why not move some of these surplus tigers out into these zoos is beyond me.
 
....................... and no recommendations from the ZAA program to replace them. Of necessity the region will have to see a resurgence of generics.

It makes no sense that the program is losing spots due to what appears as bad management. It's not like we don't have the ability to breed and place Sumatran tigers. It's also unfortunate that zoos have to wait for recommendations to have a tiger placed there.

Once zoos go back into generics, I doubt many will be bothered to require sumatrans it just seems like such a difficult program to deal with. Which is doing itself no favours.
 
Giant pandas to remain on display during quarantine:

From socials:

Excitingly, there is still time to see the much-loved bears before they return home to China.

We've received official advice granting zoo-goers access to Bamboo Forest and Wang Wang and Fu Ni access to both their day rooms and outdoor habitat during their quarantine period, which has now begun.


This means that there is still time to come in to the zoo, say farewell and post a letter in the Panda Postbox before mid-November - so we'd love you to come on in to wave a paw goodbye.
 
It’s certainly a difficult situation. Amani was noted to have had some health issues, as could be expected with a 23 year old lioness; but the primary reason for her euthanasia was of course from a welfare perspective.

Auckland Zoo have twice found themselves in this situation in recent years with lions. In 2018, Amani’s mother (Kura) and sister (Amira) were euthansied together - Kura on medical grounds; and Amira on welfare grounds. Kura had recently undergone a medical procedure, leaving Amira highly stressed in her absence. It was without a doubt the kindest decision to euthanise them together. Auckland Zoo did this again in 2021 with Zulu and Malik; days after Wellington Zoo euthansied sisters Djane and Zhara.

I know many people will be asking whether Adelaide Zoo could have (or should have) given Amani the opportunity to live life without Mujambi to assess whether she could have made the adjustment. My preference would have been for them to have tried this; but ultimately I trust the judgment and expertise of those who worked with the lions if they say that wasn’t an option. They knew them best.

I thought this line in the tribute was especially poignant:

“Amani, despite appearances, was very closely bonded to Mujambi. Yes, she swiped at him, growled and bossed him around, but she also wanted to be no further away from him than his shadow,” said Deb Barry, Curator of Adelaide Zoo.
I think from welfare and quality of life rationale they made the right call.

I certainly have started to take a severe disliking to all these self-proclaimed (and often anonymous or hiding behind some freaky pseudonym) "experts" on social media. More often than not it is bc social media are not monitored for fake news or those posters that feel themselves free to put out filth, are being disrespectful or slanderous to others or organisations that the posters' seem to have taken a dislike of....
 
Snowy, the white meerkat has been euthanised at the age of 14. Certainly a unique looking animal.

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Giant pandas leaving next week:

From socials:

After 15 years in Adelaide, don’t miss your last chance to see the black-and-white duo before they return to China next week.

Adelaide Zoo’s Bamboo Forest will be closed from 5pm on Wednesday 13 November for the panda team to prepare Wang Wang and Fu Ni for their giant journey.
 
Giant pandas leaving next week:

From socials:

After 15 years in Adelaide, don’t miss your last chance to see the black-and-white duo before they return to China next week.

Adelaide Zoo’s Bamboo Forest will be closed from 5pm on Wednesday 13 November for the panda team to prepare Wang Wang and Fu Ni for their giant journey.

Very big week for ZoosSA
Having the transfer of the two most high profile species
 
Forgive my not knowing ..., I just cannot think of any related to Adelaide Zoo itself!

The other high profile species being .... (elephant, tiger, rhino and other animal species)?
Is that not related to an open range zoo (and not primarily the zoo Adelaide Zoo?

The other high profile transfer being Burma the elephant from Auckland Zoo to Monarto Safari Park, which is also run by ZoosSA and thus affiliated with Adelaide Zoo
 
The other high profile transfer being Burma the elephant from Auckland Zoo to Monarto Safari Park, which is also run by ZoosSA and thus affiliated with Adelaide Zoo
Perhaps yes and thank you for your comments ..., just it would better fit the Monarto SP thread. If I am correct the Auckland elderly cow Burma is to move around 10-12 November this year to Monarto.

Thank you again though.
 
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