ifesbob
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This isn't the place for it (I don't want to derail the thread), but I'd be interested to hear what those nuances and such are. It's definitely something I'd like to learn more about.
Giant Eland Left in North America
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I want to say they own some? most? of the Busch Gardens giraffe. I have heard that the SSP does pretty much anything in its power to avoid recommendations to move those animals because of how difficult it is to work with IAE.
To boost this thread with some very exciting news, Zoo Miami recently announced the arrival of a male calf that was born on November 18th. As of this morning, the young eland went through a neonatal exam and can now be seen on habitat with the rest of the zoo’s elands.
Wow, that is fantastic news! I really need to get back down there....
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Maria has given birth at Zoo Miami!
USZOOfan42
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African Wildlife Safari in Ohio still keeps 3 individuals, and I was told by a keeper there’s plans to get more.
Also, it should be noted that the sire of Miami’s recent calf is most likely (1.0) Nomad, who is the zoo’s breeding male.
@USZOOfan42 did you happen to ask about the sexes of AWS’ elands when you were there?
They own all of them, so that won’t be a problem for them
It should be 1.2.
I guess the question would be if they are trying to do another import or getting some back from Miami?They own all of them, so that won’t be a problem for them
It should be 1.2.
Between IAE’s and White Oak’s ranches (which are where Miami’s last round of offspring ended up), there are upwards of 40 of them. They are spoilt for choice with their own stock already.
Interesting, I didn't know white oak had them too. With 40 animals it is disappointing more zoos or safari parks are not displaying them. I have heard that people don't like dealing with IAE, but some pretty big places already do, like Busch and their giraffes.
Seeing these calves feel like seeing a giant panda birth. Like yea it’s nice but from the limited knowledge I know, I assume Miami won’t have much agency over the calves once they get old enough to get shipped out.
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To be clear, White Oak in Florida doesn’t have them, but the ranch they own and manage in Texas has them. It is a sad situation, but I can’t see it changing. IAE has burnt their bridges with most of the facilities that were willing to work with the giant eland after years of exorbitant fees to house them and not following through with breeding and transfer recommendations. Giant eland also have a very specialized diet that can get expensive and time consuming and are prone to health problems that a lot of facilities don’t want to deal with on top of everything else. Even with Busch’s giraffe, you’ll see that since IAE owns them, they very rarely ever receive breeding or transfer recommendations because of that ownership. I’ve worked places that were recommended to receive Busch giraffe for breeding through the population planning matrix, but the recommendation was immediately dropped on human analysis because of the IAE ownership…
They won’t because they don’t own them. All but the youngest of the last batch of calves have already been moved out to IAE’s and White Oak’s ranches. That’s a pretty equivalent way of thinking about it. These births don’t really mean much because the offspring are going to eventually all be moved to ranches at the discretion of one company.
Ah ok, thanks for the clarification.