North American Asian Elephant Population 2024

I do hope abq gets a young bull to naturally breed with rozie in the near future, and maybe get some young cows alongside him as the other cows at the facility look to be too old for breeding and rozie is in her 30's. The zoo told me on an Instagram comment that they have a second barn specifically designed to hold two mature bulls, and there's an old web page about its construction and opening. That being said I think they should move albert to another zoo like Audubon, Denver (if Groucho passes soon), Miami, Busch Gardens or Phoenix, if they bull proof their habitat in the future. I'm not so sure if he has naturally bred with the younger cows there.
 
The Horse Boy said:
I do hope abq gets a young bull to naturally breed with rozie in the near future, and maybe get some young cows alongside him as the other cows at the facility look to be too old for breeding and rozie is in her 30's. The zoo told me on an Instagram comment that they have a second barn specifically designed to hold two mature bulls, and there's an old web page about its construction and opening. That being said I think they should move albert to another zoo like Audubon, Denver (if Groucho passes soon), Miami, Busch Gardens or Phoenix, if they bull proof their habitat in the future. I'm not so sure if he has naturally bred with the younger cows there.
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Albert, given he is clear of TB in the coming months, should be more than capable of siring offspring with Rozie. He is a proven bull (albiet with only one confirmed offspring to his name), so if he's healthy it makes infinitely more sense to retain him rather than send him out, bring in a young bull, go through introductions and then potentially wait for that bull to figure out the ropes of breeding. Even if they chose to stop breeding Albert, they have little reason to move him given their capacity to hold multiple bulls. While I think a second bull as a backup wouldn't be a terrible idea, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to use their proven, mature and most importantly already onsite bull to breed Rozie.

As for more females, I'd say that would be a move only made if Rozie never succeeds in having surviving calves. She's in her 30's now, but (assuming she's healthy) she could easily breed into her 40s. They have the perfect set-up of a matriline with Rozie and her mother, and the only reason they would have to bring in more individuals is if both Irene and Alice die before that happens.
 
Frankie_number_1_fan said:
Albert, given he is clear of TB in the coming months, should be more than capable of siring offspring with Rozie. He is a proven bull (albiet with only one confirmed offspring to his name), so if he's healthy it makes infinitely more sense to retain him rather than send him out, bring in a young bull, go through introductions and then potentially wait for that bull to figure out the ropes of breeding. Even if they chose to stop breeding Albert, they have little reason to move him given their capacity to hold multiple bulls. While I think a second bull as a backup wouldn't be a terrible idea, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to use their proven, mature and most importantly already onsite bull to breed Rozie.

As for more females, I'd say that would be a move only made if Rozie never succeeds in having surviving calves. She's in her 30's now, but (assuming she's healthy) she could easily breed into her 40s. They have the perfect set-up of a matriline with Rozie and her mother, and the only reason they would have to bring in more individuals is if both Irene and Alice die before that happens.
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If they were to bring in another bull for backup, doc, ongard, tucker, hugo at dickerson, or any of the young boys from Denver would be great candidates as, aside from doc as a proven breeder at rosamond already, seem to have witnessed natural breeding and have had older bulls to mentor them over breeding and older bullhood.

I wonder what the maximum number of adult elephants abq can hold even is for that matter. I suppose it is more logical for them to wait for the two elder cows to pass before they can take a herd split of younger cows and calves.
 
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