Chlidonias Goes To Asia, part seven: 2024-2025

Last time I was in China I caught a bus from Chengdu to Pingwu, and then got a taxi to Wanglang from there. Now there is no bus. I can’t see how that is possible, because how do people get to the town otherwise? But I was assured, both at the information counter and when I double-checked at the actual ticket counter, that there is no bus to Pingwu. So at the info counter I asked if there was a bus to Jiuzhaigou which is north of Wanglang, thinking I could get a taxi from there. They said there are two buses a day, 8.30am and 10.30am, which cost 238 Yuan and would take over five hours. I figured that would be my option then, so I went to the ticket counter. I explained to the lady there that I was trying to get to Wanglang, and she said the best option was to get a bus to Jiangyou which was two hours from Chengdu and cost 65 Yuan, and then taxi from there. Jiangyou is south of Wanglang (and of Pingwu), and is much further than Jiuzhaigou to Wanglang, but because the bus to Jiuzhaigou is much more expensive I think it should average out. Also Jiuzhaigou is a real tourist area so I reckon a taxi from there would be inflated. I’m hoping, also, that when I get there I will find out that there are shared-taxis or something similar going up that way. Fingers crossed! However I suspect tomorrow is going to either be very expensive, or a failed attempt at a trip. I also have no idea how expensive the accommodation at Wanglang will be now.
Well, today didn’t go quite as well as I hoped.

I had a bus ticket for 10.30am, the earliest of three buses going from Chengdu to Jiangyou. I already knew it would be a van rather than an actual bus, and had been told it was a two-hour trip so arrival would be around 12.30pm. That would give me plenty of time once there to sort out another bus, shared-taxi, regular expensive taxi, or combination thereof for the rest of the way to the Wanglang Nature Reserve.

I arrived at the station at 10am. Unlike flights there is no need to arrive too early for buses because they generally don’t even let people board until about five minutes before departure. The bay for my van was still empty so I sat down to wait. At about 10.15am the van arrived and the driver walked off. I went up to the counter and asked if that was the van to Jiangyou, but was told not yet. I sat back down.

A few minutes later the lady came over and told me (via my phone translator) that the ride was “delayed” for another 40 minutes. I checked that would be 11.10am and she said yes. I continued to wait. At 10.30am the driver of the van which I knew was the Jiangyou van came back, got in and started to back out of the bay. I went back to the counter and was again told no, I had to still wait.

I had a suspicion that I had been the only person booked so they “delayed” my ride for the next bus so that the van wouldn’t have to go all the way with only one passenger. Certainly there was no-one else waiting for the “delayed” vehicle.

At 11.10am there was still no sign of anything happening. Then a car arrived and parked in the bay. I was told this was my ride. Once I was in the car the driver said we leave at 11.35am. I waited some more. We did actually leave at that time surprisingly.

At 12.00, without even having left the city, the driver pulled into a petrol station because he “needed to refuel”. We were here for ten minutes, then after just five more minutes driving he pulls over outside one of the city’s other bus stations. “Every bus station has different departure times” he tells me (via my phone app), “so we have to wait here until 1pm”. So what time do we get to Jiangyou, I enquire. The answer is 3.30pm.

We have lunch, because clearly I’m not getting anywhere in any hurry today. Looking at the map on my phone we are now in the north of the city, near Chengdu Zoo in fact. At least we are heading in the right direction, because Jiangyou is north of Chengdu.

At 12.45pm we set off again and I’m now thinking I am underway, not least because the driver says into my phone “are you ready to go to Jiangyou? I will take you there direct now”. At 1.20pm we stop to pick up two passengers. I look at my map - we are now in the south of the city. Actually we’re only a couple of kilometres from the hotel I started the day in.

At 1.45pm the driver pulls over to have an argument on his phone with someone from the station. Then we continue driving. At 2pm we stop to pick up a third new passenger. I look at my map. We’re back where we originally started. I mean, where else would we be? I’d been in the car for 2.5 hours now, and hadn’t even left Chengdu yet. I kind of felt like just getting out of the car and trying again tomorrow.

At 2.45pm we were in Jinyu Town, which my map told me was just outside Chengdu, picking up a couple of poly-bins. I noticed on the map that Jiangyou has a train station - I should have just caught a train there.

I finally got to Jiangyou at 5pm.

I asked the driver if there was a cheap hotel near the bus station and as a price he suggested “around 200 RMB”. When I replied that was too expensive and I wanted something under 100, he looked genuinely shocked and said that there aren’t hotels for that much in China any more. I think it must be regional - as I’ve said, in Yunnan all my hotels were 70 to 80 Yuan, but that doesn’t seem to be the case in Sichuan.

He took me around the corner to the Jinxin Yazhi Hotel where there was a room for 166 Yuan, twice what I wanted to pay (it’s about NZ$40). It is, however, a very nice room. The toilet flushes by itself, the lid raises and lowers by itself, and it has a heated seat, albeit one set to 37 degrees Celsius (that’s 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit for @birdsandbats). The curtains also close and open automatically which is weird and annoying. I only just learned to use a phone a couple of months ago, I don’t want bottom-burning toilet seats and self-aware curtains! I’ve seen Terminator too many times to feel safe around such machinery. At least the toilet doesn’t talk to you. More my sort of thing is that the room also includes breakfast, although I’m not sure I’ll have time to enjoy that.

Check-in took half-an-hour due to internet-connectivity issues in the lobby (WePay and AliPay struggled to complete the transactions, and it took a lot of attempts before success), but once that was accomplished I made a visit to the bus station. There was a tourist info desk there but it was already closed for the day. I asked at the ticket counter about buses to Pingwu, and there are several per day (as I’d hoped there would be!), so I bought a ticket for the first one at 8.30am which cost 42 Yuan. I don’t think the tourist desk will be open that early, so I’ll probably find out later that they have direct buses to Wanglang and can organise the accommodation and everything, but I thought it better to make as early a start as I could.

I am, at least, halfway there now.
 
Couple of photos of my room in Jiangyou. That toilet just looks evil doesn't it?

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And my dinner because why not.
Top row is soup, lotus root, and white daikon. Bottom row is pork meatball soup, rice, pig intestines, and some pickled vegetables.
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Couple of photos of my room in Jiangyou. That toilet just looks evil doesn't it?
Bro is gonna struggle to go to any toilet in japan lmao.
Anyway sorry to hear there's a bit of a struggle, i really dont know about yunnan and sichuan but maybe if you're in the bordertowns they're generally more poorer and so cheaper? Chengdu is a very developed city so even if its out a bit it still maybe somewhat richer
 
Well, today didn’t go quite as well as I hoped.

I had a bus ticket for 10.30am, the earliest of three buses going from Chengdu to Jiangyou. I already knew it would be a van rather than an actual bus, and had been told it was a two-hour trip so arrival would be around 12.30pm. That would give me plenty of time once there to sort out another bus, shared-taxi, regular expensive taxi, or combination thereof for the rest of the way to the Wanglang Nature Reserve.

I arrived at the station at 10am. Unlike flights there is no need to arrive too early for buses because they generally don’t even let people board until about five minutes before departure. The bay for my van was still empty so I sat down to wait. At about 10.15am the van arrived and the driver walked off. I went up to the counter and asked if that was the van to Jiangyou, but was told not yet. I sat back down.

A few minutes later the lady came over and told me (via my phone translator) that the ride was “delayed” for another 40 minutes. I checked that would be 11.10am and she said yes. I continued to wait. At 10.30am the driver of the van which I knew was the Jiangyou van came back, got in and started to back out of the bay. I went back to the counter and was again told no, I had to still wait.

I had a suspicion that I had been the only person booked so they “delayed” my ride for the next bus so that the van wouldn’t have to go all the way with only one passenger. Certainly there was no-one else waiting for the “delayed” vehicle.

At 11.10am there was still no sign of anything happening. Then a car arrived and parked in the bay. I was told this was my ride. Once I was in the car the driver said we leave at 11.35am. I waited some more. We did actually leave at that time surprisingly.

At 12.00, without even having left the city, the driver pulled into a petrol station because he “needed to refuel”. We were here for ten minutes, then after just five more minutes driving he pulls over outside one of the city’s other bus stations. “Every bus station has different departure times” he tells me (via my phone app), “so we have to wait here until 1pm”. So what time do we get to Jiangyou, I enquire. The answer is 3.30pm.

We have lunch, because clearly I’m not getting anywhere in any hurry today. Looking at the map on my phone we are now in the north of the city, near Chengdu Zoo in fact. At least we are heading in the right direction, because Jiangyou is north of Chengdu.

At 12.45pm we set off again and I’m now thinking I am underway, not least because the driver says into my phone “are you ready to go to Jiangyou? I will take you there direct now”. At 1.20pm we stop to pick up two passengers. I look at my map - we are now in the south of the city. Actually we’re only a couple of kilometres from the hotel I started the day in.

At 1.45pm the driver pulls over to have an argument on his phone with someone from the station. Then we continue driving. At 2pm we stop to pick up a third new passenger. I look at my map. We’re back where we originally started. I mean, where else would we be? I’d been in the car for 2.5 hours now, and hadn’t even left Chengdu yet. I kind of felt like just getting out of the car and trying again tomorrow.

At 2.45pm we were in Jinyu Town, which my map told me was just outside Chengdu, picking up a couple of poly-bins. I noticed on the map that Jiangyou has a train station - I should have just caught a train there.

I finally got to Jiangyou at 5pm.

I asked the driver if there was a cheap hotel near the bus station and as a price he suggested “around 200 RMB”. When I replied that was too expensive and I wanted something under 100, he looked genuinely shocked and said that there aren’t hotels for that much in China any more. I think it must be regional - as I’ve said, in Yunnan all my hotels were 70 to 80 Yuan, but that doesn’t seem to be the case in Sichuan.

He took me around the corner to the Jinxin Yazhi Hotel where there was a room for 166 Yuan, twice what I wanted to pay (it’s about NZ$40). It is, however, a very nice room. The toilet flushes by itself, the lid raises and lowers by itself, and it has a heated seat, albeit one set to 37 degrees Celsius (that’s 98.6 degrees Fahrenheit for @birdsandbats). The curtains also close and open automatically which is weird and annoying. I only just learned to use a phone a couple of months ago, I don’t want bottom-burning toilet seats and self-aware curtains! I’ve seen Terminator too many times to feel safe around such machinery. At least the toilet doesn’t talk to you. More my sort of thing is that the room also includes breakfast, although I’m not sure I’ll have time to enjoy that.

Check-in took half-an-hour due to internet-connectivity issues in the lobby (WePay and AliPay struggled to complete the transactions, and it took a lot of attempts before success), but once that was accomplished I made a visit to the bus station. There was a tourist info desk there but it was already closed for the day. I asked at the ticket counter about buses to Pingwu, and there are several per day (as I’d hoped there would be!), so I bought a ticket for the first one at 8.30am which cost 42 Yuan. I don’t think the tourist desk will be open that early, so I’ll probably find out later that they have direct buses to Wanglang and can organise the accommodation and everything, but I thought it better to make as early a start as I could.

I am, at least, halfway there now.

This sounds like the average bus experience in Madagascar... Always a great reminder public transport back home isn't that bad ;)
 
Any chance you're visiting Nanjing on this trip? Not sure if you're aware of it but came across a very interesting trip report on mammalwatching which makes it seems like Yangtze Finless-Porpoises are easy to see right inside the city!! (And apparently the Northern winter months, eg. now! are the best time to see them!), there also seems to be some decent mammal watching and birding in the surrounds, attached is the trip report:
https://www.mammalwatching.com/wp-c...jing-2024-Jonas-Livet-Ruta-Vaicekauskaite.pdf
 
Any chance you're visiting Nanjing on this trip? Not sure if you're aware of it but came across a very interesting trip report on mammalwatching which makes it seems like Yangtze Finless-Porpoises are easy to see right inside the city!! (And apparently the Northern winter months, eg. now! are the best time to see them!), there also seems to be some decent mammal watching and birding in the surrounds, attached is the trip report:
https://www.mammalwatching.com/wp-c...jing-2024-Jonas-Livet-Ruta-Vaicekauskaite.pdf
I was about to say yes, but I meant Nanning. I am heading in that direction (i.e. to Shanghai for my flight to Japan) but I wouldn't have time. I'll read the report though just in case...
 
Any chance you're visiting Nanjing on this trip? Not sure if you're aware of it but came across a very interesting trip report on mammalwatching which makes it seems like Yangtze Finless-Porpoises are easy to see right inside the city!! (And apparently the Northern winter months, eg. now! are the best time to see them!), there also seems to be some decent mammal watching and birding in the surrounds, attached is the trip report:
https://www.mammalwatching.com/wp-c...jing-2024-Jonas-Livet-Ruta-Vaicekauskaite.pdf

Thought I’d mention by the by that it’s also got what I think many consider to be the best zoo in China enclosure quality-wise. Not sure if it’s in the report as I haven’t had time to look but ferret badger among other things are fairly frequently seen in the forest just next to the zoo incidentally.
 
Wanglang Nature Reserve (not the way I wanted)

Sichuan really isn’t giving me what I want.

The day started out on the right track. It was minus 2 degrees Celsius when I got up, so that was all good. My bus to Pingwu was at 8.20am and the free breakfast at the hotel started at 7.30am, so I could fit it in beforehand, so that was all good also. The bus (a van) left on time and 1.5 hours later was in Pingwu, which is a city (or at least a major town) with a bus station and everything so I don’t know why at the bus station in Chengdu they were telling me there were no buses to there. Probably half the route is through tunnels. Often we’d come out of a multi-kilometre tunnel just to cross a bridge over a river, and then go straight back into another multi-kilometre tunnel.

I asked the van driver where I could get a taxi for Wanglang, and he just flagged one down for me, told him where I wanted to go, and told me it would be 300 Yuan. This was particularly good. Ten years ago a taxi for this route cost me 400 Yuan so I was expecting something much higher now. I’m not sure if this is because a Chinese person had arranged it rather than a foreigner trying to do it alone, or if it is because the roads are better now so it is quicker and easier than before.

The driver who had brought me from Chengdu to Jiangyou the previous day had made sure I understood that I needed to take cash with me because there might not be any connections out there for the phone. I don’t know if that would be true, but I didn’t want to get stuck, so before leaving for Wanglang today I got the driver to stop at a bank and I got out 2000 Yuan - I didn’t know how expensive the accommodation at Wanglang was going to be now. I didn’t need it.

The road to Wanglang is now virtually empty of traffic. There is one of the new highways following that route now (heading to Jiuzhaigou), partly in the sky on long bridges and partly underground through tunnels.

It was about 1.5 hours from Pingwu to the reserve entrance, where I found that cars could no longer go in. Instead there was a fleet of buses to ferry visitors in. It was actually quite busy today, even though it is Tuesday.

Back when I last came here (ten years ago) my taxi drove me all the way to the HQ, I stayed there, and I walked the roads looking for birds and mammals. It was great and I saw some neat stuff, and I was really looking forward to re-visiting. Now, not so much.

Seeing the car-park and buses I checked with the guy at the gate if there was somewhere to stay still, and he confirmed there was. The entry ticket was 108 Yuan. I met a very nice Chinese girl named Nancy and her friends, who said I could leave my pack at the gate and get it on my way out. She was confused when I said that I was going to stay there and that I needed my pack with me.

We got on the bus, and she had a conversation with the driver for me. I did know from a fairly-recent blog that there were buses bringing visitors in and out now, but what I didn’t know was that visitors are literally not allowed to walk anywhere in the reserve any more except at the very end of the bus route (which is up the top of the mountain for the tourists to take photos of the snow on the mountains). So there was accommodation at the HQ, which the driver said was about 500 Yuan, but what was the point if you couldn’t go anywhere when staying there?

On my previous visit it was a half-hour walk from the HQ to a junction, from which the road went 10km in one direction and 8km in the other, both through broadleaf and bamboo forest initially and then pine forest, and then out above the tree-line. Lots of habitats, lots of potential wildlife.

Now the bus goes all the way without stopping from the entrance (I think it’s about 8 or 10km from the entrance to the junction) to almost the end of that 10km road. You can then walk around a boardwalk loop, or for the last 2km of road, and there are a couple of trails in the forest there. The problem is that you’re up at about 3000 metres in winter and everything is frozen. Almost all the wildlife is now lower down in the bamboo and broadleaf forest. I saw literally two birds up there - a Grey-crested Tit and a Eurasian Wren. Honestly, if you’re a birder there is zero point going to Wanglang now. The only reason to go there is if you want to take snaps of the mountains.

The animals I was going to be looking out for on this visit: Blue Eared Pheasant (will likely be lower down – I did hear them calling up here last time but that was in October); Minshan Striped Squirrel (too high - I had seen these on my last visit, before they were even described, but I wanted to get photos); Golden Snub-nosed Monkey and Giant Panda (both long shots anyway, but now completely out of the question because they are both much lower down).

The one bright point of the day, animal-wise, was that on the bus ride in there was a pair of Tufted Deer on the road. I was sitting in the front seat so had a fantastic view of them before they trotted off either side of the road. Of course I’d just come straight out of a taxi so my camera was packed away. On the ride back out I had my camera but was in a back seat - another Tufted Deer was seen but not one I was able to photograph.

That was great - but for all intents I had paid 400 Yuan today to see a new species of deer. And it had taken me the best part of two days to get here.

There was no point in me staying at Wanglang so Nancy said I could come back with them to their homestay for the night, which is where I am now. It is minus 9 degrees Celsius at 10pm.
 
At least there is nice scenery up there.

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At least the food looks really good, big shame about Wanglang. Do you know if there are any alternatives for the target species mentioned? I know there's a few spots just past Dujiangyan with really good chances for many of the more elusive Phasianids but only really during the warmer months...

Been really enjoying this thread so far, looking forward to seeing where it takes you next!
 
At least the food looks really good, big shame about Wanglang. Do you know if there are any alternatives for the target species mentioned? I know there's a few spots just past Dujiangyan with really good chances for many of the more elusive Phasianids but only really during the warmer months...
I mean, there are, but the reason for Wanglang was all of them being at a reasonably-convenient location which I already knew my way around in (until I found out I didn't, of course).

They will all be at Jiuzhaigou which is nearby. However I was just looking at that (it allows walking along all the routes apparently, although that may not be true when you actually get there) and found that it has been closed for four years and only reopened this year. Tickets need to be booked online at least a day in advance because there is no ticket counter there, but foreigners aren't allowed to book the tickets online so it needs to be done through a travel agent and I can't be bothered with that extra hassle and time.

Tangjiahe is also quite nearby and is good for mammals (I saw Takin, Hog Badger, Reeves' Muntjac, Tibetan Macaque, etc there in 2013) and has Giant Panda and Golden Snub-nosed Monkey but the chances of seeing those latter two is slim. The only record for Blue Eared Pheasant on eBird is from 2015 (I suspect it is too low of an altitude for them to normally be there). I also already know the accommodation there is expensive so I'd basically be paying a lot more money to probably see the same animals I've already seen. Although I did really enjoy my visit there.

The other site usually mentioned for Blue Eared Pheasant is Baxi up by Rouergai on the eastern end of the Tibetan Plateau, which I have been to before but it is out of the way so I don't plan on going back up there on this trip.

There are a few Golden Snub-nose Monkey viewing sites dotted around as well - I was just hoping to try and see them more naturally.

I think my next place is going to be Balangshan to see if I can see some different pheasants. Not that hopeful to be honest.
 
Gosh, it was minus 15 Celsius when I got up this morning. There was a bottle of something left in the others’ car which had frozen during the night.

It turns out there is still a bus (a van) between Mianyang and Jiuzhaigou, so the homestay owner arranged that and I got back to Jiangyou for 70 Yuan (Jiangyou is just above Mianyang). However the bus goes via the skyways and tunnel-roads so it doesn’t go through Pingwu I don’t think, and it would only pass somewhere in the region of the turn-off to Wanglang should you still want to go there. The homestay was in a little village outside the park, so you could get the bus heading for Jiuzhaigou and get dropped off there, but you’d still have the issue of actually getting to the park itself.

The bus took about 2 hours or so, and I got dropped by the road in the city with the driver directing me to a taxi. I didn’t know where I was - it turned out I was basically opposite the bus station. I didn’t realise this until already underway when I looked out the window and thought that building over there looked remarkably like the station. I got him to take me to the hotel I stayed at a couple of days ago, which only cost 6 Yuan so no matter.

They celebrate New Years Day in China which was a surprise to me given they also have the Chinese New Year at the end of January or thereabouts. This meant the hotels are all more expensive today. My hotel was now 188 Yuan (c.NZ$46) instead of 166 Yuan. However all the hotels will be more expensive today and I didn’t want to go back to Chengdu (the additional cost of getting back there would negate hotel cost savings anyway).

I’m a bit iffy on going to Balangshan now. The reason for going there is to see mountain pheasants (Chinese Monal being the prime one) but looking at eBird there are literally none recorded for December through February. I have no doubt that this is just because nobody goes up there in winter - and normally people not going somewhere at a certain time of year wouldn’t bother me - but Balangshan is up at 4000 metres and it is mid-winter, so it feels a bit like I might just be wasting more money and digits when I don’t actually know if the particular pheasants I’m after will be up there or not.

I had thought I might be able to get a bus to Rilong (for Balangshan) direct from Jiangyou because I’d seen it mentioned in the tourist centre there, but when I checked the map it is west of Chengdu so probably not. I asked in the bus station just in case but no. So instead I’m aiming to catch a train to Xi’an tomorrow and see if I can get to one of the viewing areas for Golden Snub-nosed Monkeys. They will be wild, even if somewhat staged for visitors. Then, depending on time and my whims, I will train back to Chengdu and either get a bus to Rilong or just get another train heading east to Guizhou.
 
Happy new year Chli! Chinese new year is by far the more important festival in china (you wont want to be in China during CNY), but like china still normally used the gregorian calendar so im not sure hows that too surprising that new year is celebrated.

Not the best few days it seems like, hope things will get better in 2025!
 
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