Perth Zoo Perth Zoo Masterplan

steveroberts said:
@Jaiden

It looks really really good Jaiden, the work you put into it and working with the info they have shared about what the plans are for the zoo, especially with the African Savannah and the Main Lake and Lawn arboreal ropeways (Primate Run thanks @Zoofan15 I forgot the actual name they were calling it) that will be complete very soon. You did a great job with man.

Like Jambo said and though would love to see Indian Rhino, Snow Leopards and Bongos theres probably a lot challenges with the zoo actually being able to have these species in the near future, but really cool to see the concept map just as it is. Hoping there is a place in future for Sun Bears to still be at the zoo even after the unfortunate times hopefully not for a long while when Jamran & Bopha are no longer around.

Think that there could be some hope perhaps for Black Rhinos perhaps as mentioned previously, when in the future (again hopefully not for some time) the Memphis and the two females have reached their longevity limits.

Remember being excited seeing a Bongo drawn on the concept art in the previous masterplan artwork for what the upgraded 'Savannah might look like.

This is just a personal wish and one hundred percent speculation, but have long thought and hoped that PZ might consider Clouded Leopards and find the appropriately needed space to house them within the Asian Rainforest precinct (personally thought they should scrap reviving Harmony Farm for expanding on the Asian Rainforest area).

But really great concept map man, it looks fantastic.
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It’ll be interesting to see where Perth Zoo go with rhinos in the future. Due to the geographical distance of Perth from the other Australian rhino holders, it seems likely future rhinos will similarly come on a one way ticket - i.e. surplus post-reproductive rhinos. With a thriving breeding programme, there will be no shortage of these. Someone needs to hold them and it doesn’t make sense to be ferrying young rhinos back and forth.

As much as I’d love to see black rhinoceros come to Perth, I’m inclined to say the white rhino will retain favour due to being better suited to the mixed species concept, which is a positive image for the modern zoo.
 
Zoofan15 said:
It’ll be interesting to see where Perth Zoo go with rhinos in the future. Due to the geographical distance of Perth from the other Australian rhino holders, it seems likely future rhinos will similarly come on a one way ticket - i.e. surplus post-reproductive rhinos. With a thriving breeding programme, there will be no shortage of these.

As much as I’d love to see black rhinoceros come to Perth, I’m inclined to say the white rhino will retain favour due to being better suited to the mixed species concept, which is a positive image for the modern zoo.
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Yeah actually that makes sense with the direction zoos are undertandeably going in, large mixed species shared habitats being a completely justified highly sought after planned concept most zoos aim to create more of. Have long been curious about info on differences between White Rhinos and Black Rhinos when sharing habitats with other large ungulates + medium and small ones too (and sometimes other mammals too).

Remember seeing somewhere on another forum here on ZC that a zoo think somewhere in Europe had Sth White Rhinos and (a) Cheetah(s) sharing a habitat for a time which thought was really interesting for both species being awesome but also a risky undertaking (though guess many mixed species exhibits will always have a degree of risk of course, was more worried for the Cheetahs of course in terms of who could be seriously-even fatally harmed by who).

But yeah if PZ decide to continue with their already impressive coming up to 35 years now with Sth White Rhino (love that Memphis is still there, on personal note was first favourite animal as a youngster so am over the moon he is still around and still at PZ). That eventually having Sth White Rhinos perhaps living in shared enormous (for city zoo) habitat with Giraffes, Zebras, Ostriches and hopefully Nyalas would be amazing.
 
Jaiden said:
Thank you zoofan15. what could be a replacement to the Indian rhino on the map?
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I’d suggest Sri Lankan leopard, complimenting the adjacent Sumatran tiger. It’s unclear if the rotational concept for large carnivores has been abandoned, but with what appears to be an inevitable phase out of sun bear, I’d consider leopards to be their best replacement. They’re unphased by living in adjacent exhibits to tigers etc. unlike small felids like Fishing cat.
steveroberts said:
Yeah actually that makes sense with the direction zoos are undertandeably going in, large mixed species shared habitats being a completely justified highly sought after planned concept most zoos aim to create more of. Have long been curious about info on differences between White Rhinos and Black Rhinos when sharing habitats with other large ungulates + medium and small ones too (and sometimes other mammals too).

Remember seeing somewhere on another forum here on ZC that a zoo think somewhere in Europe had Sth White Rhinos and (a) Cheetah(s) sharing a habitat for a time which thought was really interesting for both species being awesome but also a risky undertaking (though guess many mixed species exhibits will always have a degree of risk of course, was more worried for the Cheetahs of course in terms of who could be seriously-even fatally harmed by who).

But yeah if PZ decide to continue with their already impressive coming up to 35 years now with Sth White Rhino (love that Memphis is still there, on personal note was first favourite animal as a youngster so am over the moon he is still around and still at PZ). That eventually having Sth White Rhinos perhaps living in shared enormous (for city zoo) habitat with Giraffes, Zebras, Ostriches and hopefully Nyalas would be amazing.
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Flamingoland was the first zoo in the UK to mix rhinos and Cheetah; while other zoos throughout Europe have done it such as Boras zoo in Sweden.

Memphis is such an iconic resident of Perth Zoo - along with the deceased Puan the orangutan and Alistair the lion. Their successors are popular, but none have attained the same fame. The elephants (especially Tricia) would undoubtedly feature in this line up.
 
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Jaiden

Wish could actually give you some genuine help with man; the only thing could say although this really is complete conjecture on my behalf, is that if the zoo does move the noc' house, perhaps it would be best to also incorporate that area where Amazonia is into the extended Primates precinct, though really like the agoutis and capybaras on your map; with the precedent currently now and since early in 2023 with the red-rumped agoutis being part of the Lesser Primates complex (and not the first non primates to live in that complex, Mungo the serval lived there from latter 1985 til '96 or '97, and a green iguana at times during the '80s and '90s, know you know about them being there in past too am just ruminating while thinking about potential non-primate residents who can share the expanded complex too perhaps). Though just speculation am suggesting, still think it's probable that a few non primate species (even if just one or two) will also be resident in that precinct in near future (maye the return of some macaws and conures to the zoo, wish brown-nosed coatis could be among the species once again at the zoo but unfortunately the import restriction on them seems to make that impossible sadly).

Oh cool will be good to know about the sun bears and the spotted hyenas and what might be known about their futures at the zoo (species specifically obvs', am sure Bopha, Jamran, Kigani and Sabi will remain at the the zoo for their lifetimes).

Enjoy your visit man, wish Permai safe and hopefully stress-free travels from all of us when you say hi to her.

@Jaiden (again sorry just thought easier than new post) you're welcome man no worries, thanks too.
 
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Jaiden said:
@steveroberts
If Perth zoo was to move the Cassowary and the Tree kangaroo to the rainforest retreat what would go where they are already located?
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Wow another cool map Jaiden, the cassowaries and tree kangaroos would have like four times the habitat roaming space if the 'Rainforest Retreat' was given to them as their exhibits (provided the breeding programs for frogs etc in the 'R.R' can be done with replacement sites b.t.s at the zoo or off-site at a specially set up reserves).

The bordering main lake area while did say alternatively could be renovated as extension of main lake and a third primate island created (leave some of trees and plants around border area as water birds land accessible area) would be a shame to have all that lush trees & plants foliage taken out. Perhaps (when xenartha ira is completed) an area for Linneus two-toed sloth, southern tamandua, yellow armadillo or three-banded armadillos, sharing perhaps with squirrel monkeys or a tamarin or marmoset species, and redrumped agoutis and macaws, amazons and conures (with birds though too would need high aviary roofing enclosing but probably would need complete boundary wire mesh covering anyway for the afforementioned, could be really high wire roof though). Or alternatively a black-and-white ruffed lemur habitat with walkway in the middle (escape proofing would be needed for boundaries).
 
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Jaiden said:
Here I have fixed the map.View attachment 765724
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Hello.

Australasia's lack of antelope diversity is made apparent by the masterplan at Perth zoo. Why three different pens for nyala? It seems weird to me. Maybe getting some new African bovids (perhaps, a few addax, oryx or maybe even an antelope species new to Australia) would be a more interesting choice.

The primate collection looks nice, though. Not gonna lie.
 
steveroberts said:
Wow another cool map Jaiden, the cassowaries and tree kangaroos would have like four times the habitat roaming space if the 'Rainforest Retreat' was given to them as their exhibits (provided the breeding programs for frogs etc in the 'R.R' can be done with replacement sites b.t.s at the zoo or off-site at a specially set up reserves).
The bordering main lake area while did say alternatively could be renovated as extension of main lake and a third primate island created (leave some of trees and plants around border area as water birds land accessible area) would be a shame to have all that lush trees & plants foliage taken out. Perhaps (when xenartha ira is completed) an area for Linneus two-toed sloth, southern tamandua, yellow armadillo or three-banded armadillos, sharing perhaps with squirrel monkeys or a tamarin or marmoset species, and redrumped agoutis and macaws, amazons and conures (with birds though too would need high aviary roofing enclosing but probably would need complete boundary wire mesh covering anyway for the afforementioned, could be really high wire roof though). Or alternatively a black-and-white ruffed lemur habitat with walkway in the middle (escape proofing would be needed for boundaries).
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@steveroberts

Thank you for your reply. I would guess it would most likely be an Black and White ruffed lemur exhibit.
 
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