Bronx Zoo World of Darkness reopening

Few species (off habitat) that I found from ZooTierListe and confirmed species that I found possible for World of Darkness:
• American Beaver
• Brazilian Porcupine
• Cape Porcupine
• Gray Mouse Lemur(likely no)
• Linnaeus Two Toed Sloth (Confirmed)
• Aye-Aye (Confirmed)
• Night Monkey (Semi-Confirmed)
• Various Bats (Confirmed)
• Nine-Banded Armadillo
• Pygmy Slow Loris
• Serval
• Various on habitat species and herps
 
USZOOfan42 said:
Few species (off habitat) that I found from ZooTierListe and confirmed species that I found possible for World of Darkness:
• American Beaver
• Brazilian Porcupine
• Cape Porcupine
• Gray Mouse Lemur(likely no)
• Linnaeus Two Toed Sloth (Confirmed)
• Aye-Aye (Confirmed)
• Night Monkey (Semi-Confirmed)
• Various Bats (Confirmed)
• Nine-Banded Armadillo
• Pygmy Slow Loris
• Serval
• Various on habitat species and herps
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Don't forget the confirmed Caiman
 
USZOOfan42 said:
Few species (off habitat) that I found from ZooTierListe and confirmed species that I found possible for World of Darkness:
• American Beaver
• Brazilian Porcupine
• Cape Porcupine
• Gray Mouse Lemur(likely no)
• Linnaeus Two Toed Sloth (Confirmed)
• Aye-Aye (Confirmed)
• Night Monkey (Semi-Confirmed)
• Various Bats (Confirmed)
• Nine-Banded Armadillo
• Pygmy Slow Loris
• Serval
• Various on habitat species and herps
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Many of those are education animals they have had for years such as the armadillo, beaver, and porcupines. They will likely not be moved over. Additionally larger species like Serval will almost certainly not be included, due to the buildings limitations. While this will be a great exhibit I am sure let’s not get ahead of ourselves expecting a massive species list.
 
nczoofan said:
Many of those are education animals they have had for years such as the armadillo, beaver, and porcupines. They will likely not be moved over. Additionally larger species like Serval will almost certainly not be included, due to the buildings limitations. While this will be a great exhibit I am sure let’s not get ahead of ourselves expecting a massive species list.
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I thought this building was roughly the same size as Omaha’s, is it not? The beaver was a stretch but I could see them moving education animals especially one’s like the armadillo.
 
USZOOfan42 said:
I thought this building was roughly the same size as Omaha’s, is it not? The beaver was a stretch but I could see them moving education animals especially one’s like the armadillo.
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Not even close. Omaha's Kingdoms of the Night spans 0.98 acres, while the building for World of Darkness seems to only come in at about 0.2 acres (I measured the latter in Google Earth, so this may not be 100% accurate). Heck, Kingdoms of the Nights Swamp exhibit alone is bigger than World of Darkness (assuming the 1/4 acre given for KotN's swamp exhibit is correct).

I highly doubt beavers or servals are included, but the rest seem plausible.
 
Astrotom3000 said:
Not even close. Omaha's Kingdoms of the Night spans 0.98 acres, while the building for World of Darkness seems to only come in at about 0.2 acres (I measured the latter in Google Earth, so this may not be 100% accurate). Heck, Kingdoms of the Nights Swamp exhibit alone is bigger than World of Darkness (assuming the 1/4 acre given for KotN's swamp exhibit is correct).

I highly doubt beavers or servals are included, but the rest seem plausible.
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Jeez, I was expecting WoD to be similar not that small… KotN is a phenomenal exhibit, the best nocturnal house I have visited and I hope Bronx can at least compare.
 
USZOOfan42 said:
Jeez, I was expecting WoD to be similar not that small… KotN is a phenomenal exhibit, the best nocturnal house I have visited and I hope Bronx can at least compare.
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Already getting disappointed when the exhibit hasn't even opened yet - I dare say the more people speculate about what could happen the more disappointed they'll be when most of it doesn't happen. Bronx will likely have one or two surprises in store, but I wouldn't go expecting a jam-packed species list.
 
Great Argus said:
Already getting disappointed when the exhibit hasn't even opened yet - I dare say the more people speculate about what could happen the more disappointed they'll be when most of it doesn't happen. Bronx will likely have one or two surprises in store, but I wouldn't go expecting a jam-packed species list.
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As one of those people who will turn out disappointed through looking at speculation of insane upcoming zoo exhibits, I agree with you. I personally always anticipate upcoming zoo exhibits to be mediocre by default, with this one being no different, so I don't get that disappointed in the end if it turns out underwhelming.
Astrotom3000 said:
Not even close. Omaha's Kingdoms of the Night spans 0.98 acres, while the building for World of Darkness seems to only come in at about 0.2 acres (I measured the latter in Google Earth, so this may not be 100% accurate). Heck, Kingdoms of the Nights Swamp exhibit alone is bigger than World of Darkness (assuming the 1/4 acre given for KotN's swamp exhibit is correct).

I highly doubt beavers or servals are included, but the rest seem plausible.
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Yeah, there's a very miniscule chance that this exhibit will have any direct competition with Omaha's exhibit.
 
Nile Hippo Expert said:
As one of those people who will turn out disappointed through looking at speculation of insane upcoming zoo exhibits, I agree with you. I personally always anticipate upcoming zoo exhibits to be mediocre by default, with this one being no different, so I don't get that disappointed in the end if it turns out underwhelming.

Yeah, there's a very miniscule chance that this exhibit will have any direct competition with Omaha's exhibit.
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The renewed, “World of Darkness” will be tol’able-at best.
The very fact that the Bronx Zoo is opening any new - or renovated - exhibit at all is wonder in of itself.
The concept of an exhibit solely dedicated to nocturnal species alone was unique in the United States at the time. Another pioneering effort by the, then, New York Zoological Society.
Subsequently , zoos in suburban settings with more land available and development and expansion (ie Omaha , etc) have been able to surpass the Bronx Zoo’s efforts with larger , more expansive exhibits.
Consider WOD a return to its previous incarnation with the addition of Aye Ayes -which had only been displayed previously at the Bronx Zoo in the former WOD as a loan from the thenDuke Primate Center.
Adding Aye Ayes to the collection is a great accomplishment for the Bronx Zoo as it is one of the most unique and critically endangered species available to zoos. That acquisition alone is enough to celebrate.
Having a full time exhibit exclusively dedicated to nocturnal species - of all classes- is- a plus .
This means that it can serve as a repository other potential orders not yet available for exhibit.
Consider WOD a means to an end not an end in of itself .
So multiple Chiroptera species , Caiman, Dourocouli, nocturnal carnivores will return while Aye Ayes will be on permanent display for the first ever at a New York zoo.
I hope pangolins would eventually follow.
So consider this a retro fit
 
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Don Majeski said:
The renewed, “World of Darkness” will be tol’able-at best.
The very fact that the Bronx Zoo is opening any new - or renovated - exhibit at all is wonder in of itself.
The concept of an exhibit solely dedicated to nocturnal species alone was unique in the United States at the time. Another pioneering effort by the, then, New York Zoological Society.
Subsequently , zoos in suburban settings with more land available and development and expansion (ie Omaha , etc) have been able to surpass the Bronx Zoo’s efforts with larger , more expansive exhibits.
Consider WOD a return to its previous incarnation with the addition of Aye Ayes -which had only been displayed previously at the Bronx Zoo in the former WOD as a loan from the thenDuke Primate Center.
Adding Aye Ayes to the collection is a great accomplishment for the Bronx Zoo as it is one of the most unique and critically endangered species available to zoos. That acquisition alone is enough to celebrate.
Having a full time exhibit exclusively dedicated to nocturnal species - of all classes- is- a plus .
This means that it can serve as a repository other potential orders not yet available for exhibit.
Consider WOD a means to an end not an end in of itself .
So multiple Chiroptera species , Caiman, Dourocouli, nocturnal carnivores will return while Aye Ayes will be on permanent display for the first ever at a New York zoo.
I hope pangolins would eventually follow.
So consider this a retro fit
Let us hope they do the same thing some day with the former, “Monkey House” to breed Orangutan -which
would continue with the primate theme while converting it into housing for a single - indeed- singular species .
Too long gone from New York City Zoological gardens.
Then we can tackle the elephant issues
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It would also be nice if the World of Darkness could include an Australasian exhibit with a Monotreme and Marsupial- or which- ALL the WCS facilities are sorely lacking and under representive
The first incarnation of WOD held Bettong/Potoro
 
Nile Hippo Expert said:
As one of those people who will turn out disappointed through looking at speculation of insane upcoming zoo exhibits, I agree with you. I personally always anticipate upcoming zoo exhibits to be mediocre by default, with this one being no different, so I don't get that disappointed in the end if it turns out underwhelming.

Yeah, there's a very miniscule chance that this exhibit will have any direct competition with Omaha's exhibit.
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I'm just grateful World of Darkness is reopening period. "This nocturnal house which is bucking the trend isn't bucking the trend enough" - I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering by any metric, but I'm glad that an exhibit that was closed during the 2009 recession is reopening. World of Darkness coupled with the other nocturnal exhibits throughout the zoo (Mouse House's nocturnal gallery, the aardvark/scops owl exhibit in the Giraffe Building, the cloud rat exhibit in JungleWorld, the rock python exhibit in Congo Gorilla Forest and the kiwi/frogmouth exhibit in Aquatic Bird House) equals, in my opinion, the finest nocturnal collection on the east coast.
 
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Don Majeski said:
And that the “loan” is not as onerous as those imposed on the Giant Panda exhibitors by the Chinese government
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No idea what the terms are, but I doubt it's much for an animal the general public generally finds creepy/disturbing and doesn't see half the time. If the terms were terrible nobody but Duke would have them.
 
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Don Majeski said:
Hopefully the WCS will be able to maintain any offspring - presuming they have a, potentially , breeding pair .
And that the “loan” is not as onerous as those imposed on the Giant Panda exhibitors by the Chinese government and
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Most Aye Aye and all Coquerel's Sifaka in the US are owned by Duke Lemur Center. The few Aye Aye that are not owned by Duke were individuals born at other facilities while the parents were on loan. Oftentimes the owning facility will cooperate with the housing facility and own "every other offspring" so Duke owns infants 1, 3, 5 Bronx (for example) would own 2, 4, 6. Keeping the offspring is very much up to regional needs/what Duke recommends.
Part of Duke's loan agreement with zoo's housing Sifaka is that all offspring are owned by Duke, largely due to Duke's huge success with the species and their sensitive husbandry needs. Aye Aye, while unique are not quite as delicate a species.
 
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Grant said:
Most Aye Aye and all Coquerel's Sifaka in the US are owned by Duke Lemur Center. The few Aye Aye that are not owned by Duke were individuals born at other facilities while the parents were on loan. Oftentimes the owning facility will cooperate with the housing facility and own "every other offspring" so Duke owns infants 1, 3, 5 Bronx (for example) would own 2, 4, 6. Keeping the offspring is very much up to regional needs/what Duke recommends.
Part of Duke's loan agreement with zoo's housing Sifaka is that all offspring are owned by Duke, largely due to Duke's huge success with the species and their sensitive husbandry needs. Aye Aye, while unique are not quite as delicate a species.
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Thanks
I have been to the former “Primate Center”, they do a remarkable job.
I only wish there other institutions that specialize to the extent Duke does with prosimians , St Augustine with crocodilians , Healsevikke with marsupials and monotremes
 
StoppableSan said:
I'm just grateful World of Darkness is reopening period. "This nocturnal house which is bucking the trend isn't bucking the trend enough" - I'm not expecting anything earth-shattering by any metric, but I'm glad that an exhibit that was closed during the 2009 recession is reopening. World of Darkness coupled with the other nocturnal exhibits throughout the zoo (Mouse House's nocturnal gallery, the aardvark/scops owl exhibit in the Giraffe Building, the cloud rat exhibit in JungleWorld, the rock python exhibit in Congo Gorilla Forest and the kiwi/frogmouth exhibit in Aquatic Bird House) equals, in my opinion, the finest nocturnal collection on the east coast.
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Honestly it helps that Bronx Zoo is so big that even if it's a smaller supporting piece (such as the Aquatic Bird House) then it's still an extremely net positive
 
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