Zhao yun
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Will adding Red Winged Blackbird make sense? Or will they harass the other passerines?
Mixed species exhibit ideas
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Should be fine, but it would work better if you also added other Central American cichlids (Convict cichlid, Redhead cichlid, Midas cichlid, etc), they're fast-breeding and will provide extra food for the Gars and Crocodiles. I know that sounds silly, but if you only have the gars the crocs will have them as a snack, and it's better to lose a fast-breeding cichlid than an endangered gar.
Western Bearded anole can be mixed with either of them. I wouldn't trust Mountain Chicken with Giant galliwasp since frogs usually eat anything that fits in their mouth and Galliwasps live mostly on the ground.
Galliwasps and Mountain chickens are both ground-dwelling and carnivorous, but both can be mixed with larger animals or tree-dwelling animals. So Iguanas (could be Cuban or Rhinoceros but I think West Indian would be the safest option), Basilisks, Treefrogs or Anoles
Van Beal
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Had an idea for a sizeable savanna habitat (approx. 3 acres). Any insights on how the following mix would work out, as well as any changes to species numbers that would be needed, is much appreciated.
1.3 Masai Giraffe
0.6 Grant's Zebra
2.10 Common Impala
1.6 Greater Kudu
0.4 Southern Sable Antelope
1.1 Somali White-bellied Bustard
1.3 Masai Giraffe
0.6 Grant's Zebra
2.10 Common Impala
1.6 Greater Kudu
0.4 Southern Sable Antelope
1.1 Somali White-bellied Bustard
MOG2012
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The zebras might need a stallion unless they were bonded and or raised together. Sables can be aggressive with the lack of male can cause instability. Bustards are vulnerable to stress. The enclosure should be 3.5-4 acres to reduce competition. So have 1.2 giraffe, 1.4 or 0.4zebra, 2.8 Impala, 1.5 kudu, 1.3 or 0.3 sable, and 1.1 bustard
Not necessarily. Sable have a matriarchal herd structure — so much so that it can be nearly impossible to integrate unrelated females into an established herd. I have managed sable herds without adult bulls for extended periods of time, and they are just fine without them. That said, I am always a proponent for breeding. Note, though, that this enclosure would be far too small for this many animals (especially the zebra — which I just never find worth the effort).
And trampling… The bustards should never be in such a mixed species enclosure.
Van Beal
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Actually ended up factoring this in for the habitat design. The bustards are restricted to an area via aviary intended to look as though they are included in the ungulate mix, while being safe from trampling. Out of curiosity, would the bustards be okay to live with either guineafowl or ground hornbills?
So how big would the space need to be to hold those species, or if more realistic, which species would need to be omitted to make it work with 3-3.5 acres of space?
Whether you’re going to keep them in an aviary or not, the birds will not work well with the monkeys and antelope.
Also, there is a chance that the Saddle-Bills will catch a bee-eater mid-flight, so I wouldn’t risk losing any smaller birds by not having them in this mix at all.
This will leave you with either one of these two mixes, as seen here:
• Sitatunga with Allen’s Swamp Monkey
• Sitatunga with Saddle-Billed Stork
Either way, any one of these would be a more feasible option for you; with female sitatungas being the ideal gender for mixing with other animals.
Zhao yun
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Singapore Bird Paradise houses Bee-eaters with Saddlebills and other African storks and cranes.
Yes, but between the Saddle-Bills and the Swamp Monkeys in LadyA91’s hypothetical mix; it wouldn’t be wise to mix them with any bee-eaters.
I wouldn't mix them with other ground birds, but they would be fine with birds that stay off the ground, like parrots, turacos, vultures, etc
Should be fine, but maybe a smaller species like hog deer would be a safer option
Don’t have the bustards, they will eventually come to a bad end
Van Beal
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Would a smaller African hornbill (like Von der Decken's or Crowned) work the same as the other birds you mentioned?
Paul.Haerle
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Should work
Van Beal
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Yet another question regarding my African savanna area.
Can any of these bird species be combined with each other?
Bateleur
African Crowned Eagle
Secretarybird
Marabou Stork
African Fish-eagle
Palm-nut Vulture
Southern Ground Hornbill
Verreaux's Eagle
This is moreso asking if the hornbill, stork, and secretarybird could mix with any of the others, but if any other combinations of the other species can safely exist, that information would be great.
Can any of these bird species be combined with each other?
Bateleur
African Crowned Eagle
Secretarybird
Marabou Stork
African Fish-eagle
Palm-nut Vulture
Southern Ground Hornbill
Verreaux's Eagle
This is moreso asking if the hornbill, stork, and secretarybird could mix with any of the others, but if any other combinations of the other species can safely exist, that information would be great.
MOG2012
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The Marabou could be housed with the vulture. The fish-eagle and the vulture too. I think that the hornbill would be better housed with the hoofstock. The enclosures would have to be large to make the size work
Van Beal
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Could I do all three (being the Marabou, Fish-eagle, and Vulture) all in the same space? And how big would such an aviary need to be?
MOG2012
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The fish eagle might see the vulture as competition though the aviary is possible if over 1400 sq. m large and 15 m tall