Australasian Colobine Population

Pandaboi said:
Does anyone know what year 'Goblin' the Dusky Langur was born and what year he passed away? They are a impressive species so it is a shame there are so little in captivity.
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Goblin died in 2015. I don’t have a DOB for him, but since he was imported in 2004 and sired his first infant in 2006, we can assume he was born sometime prior to 2003 (maybe late 1990’s/early 2000’s).

His mate Flier was born 25/01/1998 and was imported in 2001.
 
Colobine updates:
  • 0.1 colobus infant has been born at the National Zoo and Aquarium to 1.0 Colin and 0.1 Halle. The infant has been named Amara, creating a family unit of four (1.3) along with their first infant Aida. There is also a second troop at the zoo.
  • 1.1 colobus have been transferred from Adelaide to Melbourne to join lone 0.1 Kipenzi.
  • 0.1 Meili the Francois Langur at Taronga died way back in 2023 due to gastrointestional issues.
  • the 5.0 Francois Langurs exported to Singapore are now on display in Mandai's newest zoo - Rainforest Wild Asia.
 
WhistlingKite24 said:
Colobine updates:
  • 0.1 colobus infant has been born at the National Zoo and Aquarium to 1.0 Colin and 0.1 Halle. The infant has been named Amara, creating a family unit of four (1.3) along with their first infant Aida. There is also a second troop at the zoo.
  • 1.1 colobus have been transferred from Adelaide to Melbourne to join lone 0.1 Kipenzi.
  • 0.1 Meili the Francois Langur at Taronga died way back in 2023 due to gastrointestional issues.
  • the 5.0 Francois Langurs exported to Singapore are now on display in Mandai's newest zoo - Rainforest Wild Asia.
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So just the two males and three females left at Taronga?
 
WhistlingKite24 said:
Colobine updates:
  • 0.1 colobus infant has been born at the National Zoo and Aquarium to 1.0 Colin and 0.1 Halle. The infant has been named Amara, creating a family unit of four (1.3) along with their first infant Aida. There is also a second troop at the zoo.
  • 1.1 colobus have been transferred from Adelaide to Melbourne to join lone 0.1 Kipenzi.
  • 0.1 Meili the Francois Langur at Taronga died way back in 2023 due to gastrointestional issues.
  • the 5.0 Francois Langurs exported to Singapore are now on display in Mandai's newest zoo - Rainforest Wild Asia.
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Its to bad that no other zoo in the country (apart from two spare males) has them considering all other Langur species were/are phased out to make room for the chosen species for the region!
 
Zorro said:
Its to bad that no other zoo in the country (apart from two spare males) has them considering all other Langur species were/are phased out to make room for the chosen species for the region!
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Isnt that how our majour zoo's operate. They need the room for species they already have but can still fit in an extra Cafe when needed.
Columbines are suffering with this current move away from medium sized primates. It's an odd shift because they are popular with the public. But like the fennec fox the public like them buts zoos are lukewarm warm on them.

ETA: Even zoo's like western plains which have empty island exhibits that once held siamang, but are a bit on the smaller side. Would probably be suitable for Columbine species and they havent picked them up.
 
Tiger91 said:
Isnt that how our majour zoo's operate. They need the room for species they already have but can still fit in an extra Cafe when needed.
Columbines are suffering with this current move away from medium sized primates. It's an odd shift because they are popular with the public. But like the fennec fox the public like them buts zoos are lukewarm warm on them.

ETA: Even zoo's like western plains which have empty island exhibits that once held siamang, but are a bit on the smaller side. Would probably be suitable for Columbine species and they havent picked them up.
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I will explain myself to a further degree but when replying to a email message conversation I saw your post Tiger and found it exciting…

I have recently been lee to believe that TWPZ will have new siamnags soon.

I am waiting to use my computer to post more complete detailing perhaps very soon.
~E
 
Jambo said:
Surprising news considering the gibbons have since been moved onto their island.

As @Tiger91 said, the islands are also on the smaller side so I'd also think a smaller species would be more suitable. Perhaps Black and White Colobus, to suit the African theming.
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A return of Siamang to Dubbo seems inevitable, but I agree a larger exhibit would serve them well. Their island is ideal for close management of the elderly gibbons in the meantime.

Fern at Mogo lives with three of her sons in a group of 3.1, which is far from optimal. Creating a new pair at Dubbo with one of her younger sons could be a good move.
 
Erocco W said:
I will explain myself to a further degree but when replying to a email message conversation I saw your post Tiger and found it exciting…

I have recently been lee to believe that TWPZ will have new siamnags soon.

I am waiting to use my computer to post more complete detailing perhaps very soon.
~E
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That's good news!.
Hopefully we will see them back out there soon.
 
Jambo said:
Surprising news considering the gibbons have since been moved onto their island.

As @Tiger91 said, the islands are also on the smaller side so I'd also think a smaller species would be more suitable. Perhaps Black and White Colobus, to suit the African theming.
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I did hear that there old exhibit had been extended, but I havent seen in person how. They had the island and apparently they added another part of the side of the night house, that they could use. But the islands would be better suited to a smaller Columbine species.

They have the room to build a new exhibit. It will be interesting if they have gone down this route, or they will put siamang back in there old one. The netting they use at taronga for the tigers and lions, would be an easy/cheaper way to create a simple but nice netted exhibit at a size more suitable for siamang. While the island better used for colobus.
 
Tiger91 said:
I did hear that there old exhibit had been extended, but I havent seen in person how. They had the island and apparently they added another part of the side of the night house, that they could use. But the islands would be better suited to a smaller Columbine species.

They have the room to build a new exhibit. It will be interesting if they have gone down this route, or they will put siamang back in there old one. The netting they use at taronga for the tigers and lions, would be an easy/cheaper way to create a simple but nice netted exhibit at a size more suitable for siamang. While the island better used for colobus.
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It might depend on the age of the Siamang pair. The benefit of a smaller exhibit with regards to close monitoring of the gibbons was noted; with the same similarly applying to an ageing pair of Siamang.

A younger pair of Siamang (especially if the intention is for them to breed in the future) would benefit from a new, purpose built exhibit; with colobus perhaps moving into the old exhibit as you and others have suggested.
 
Astrobird said:
Colby was born at Melbourne zoo and was named after the cheese! I have a newspaper clipping somewhere, about him
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I don’t know what cheese has to do with colobus, but Melbourne Zoo has often favoured the naming of primates with their mothers’ initial (gorillas, orangutans, gibbons, baboons etc).

Colby (2009) and his brother Colin (2011) were the offspring of Clover. Her infants before and after were Indi (2006) and Kipenzi (2012), so it was only a temporary adherence to this naming system for Melbourne’s colobus.
 
WhistlingKite24 said:
The two new colobus at Melbourne have been confirmed as 1.0 Colby (from National Zoo) and 0.1 Charlie (from Adelaide Zoo). Colby is a sibling to Melbourne’s resident female Kipenzi. This gives Melbourne 1.2 colobus currently - reported on their FB page.
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Would I be correct in thinking Colby and Charlie are unrelated or do we just not know? It would be handy if they could breed and then Kipenzi (on contraception) could be a non-breeding female to prevent inbreeding. It's good to know that Adelaide still has their breeding male, Jasiri, as he has sired a number of infants there in recent years.
 
Abbey said:
Would I be correct in thinking Colby and Charlie are unrelated or do we just not know? It would be handy if they could breed and then Kipenzi (on contraception) could be a non-breeding female to prevent inbreeding. It's good to know that Adelaide still has their breeding male, Jasiri, as he has sired a number of infants there in recent years.
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Chadwick (sire of Charlie) was born at Melbourne Zoo in 1986, so I’m wondering if Chadwick was also the sire of Clover (mother of Colby), who was born at Melbourne Zoo. If so, that would make Charlie the aunt of Colby.

Charlie is 23 years old and well and truly past prime breeding age. This species lives 25-30 years in captivity, so I assume this grouping is for companionship.
 
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