From my last count it was nine (2.7) and they're all non-sub's (so either hybrids or origins are unknown).Does anyone know how many chimpanzees Wingham holds, and what sub species?
From my last count it was nine (2.7) and they're all non-sub's (so either hybrids or origins are unknown).Does anyone know how many chimpanzees Wingham holds, and what sub species?
There was a feature on the chimps at Wingham end August 2021 that may indicate numbers and gives a neat little life history for the current group. At this time there were 2.6 chimpanzees.From my last count it was nine (2.7) and they're all non-sub's (so either hybrids or origins are unknown).
It may be that since 2021 things have changed considerably.....though!
I think they have just hd the one more recent birth.
I did some digging/surfing the net and I can confirm another chimpanzee female was born on December 23rd, 2003 to female Tara (and her sire Fritz).I think they have just hd the one more recent birth.
What about the other 1.4 chimpanzee? Any more information on their genetics and origins?I visited Wingham today. They were 2.7, the youngest female being 2 years old. They say that they are West African. As this group came from a university lab in Georgia and are not related to any chimpanzee in Europe they expect the two daughters to be sent to other facilities as they are of the correct subspecies.
What about the other 1.4 chimpanzee? Any more information on their genetics and origins?
The photo of the older daughter Ezizabeth certainly indicates P.t. verus origin as she appears to have the dark facial mask apparent in younger animals of that subspecies.What about the other 1.4 chimpanzee? Any more information on their genetics and origins?
Current population:According to the keeper talk:
- All came from the same university in America except the 0.2 born at the park
- The 2.0 are half brothers
- One of the females is a sister of the dominant female.
Are you claiming that the ones you marked with Western are all West African chimpanzee Pan troglodytes verus and the Eastern? (Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii) and Central? (Pan troglodytes troglodytes)?Current population:
1.0 Fritz (1988) Brother of Lucas - Western
1.0 Lucas (1993) Brother of Fritz - Western
0.1 Georgia (1976) Aunty of Tara - Western
0.1 Elvira (1988) Eastern?
0.1 Faye (1992) Western?
0.1 Agatha (1993) Central?
0.1 Tara (1995) Niece of Georgia - Western
0.1 Elizabeth (2018) Fritz x Tara - Western
0.1 Margaret (2023) Fritz x Tara - Western
It's also possible some of the chimps are hybrids (at least besides Fritz, Tara and their daughters from what Wingham have stated).
The ones with question marks are just guesses on my behalf.Are you claiming that the ones you marked with Western are all West African chimpanzee Pan troglodytes verus and the Eastern? (Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii) and Central? (Pan troglodytes troglodytes)?
I was sure on Fritz, Tara and their 2 offspring Elizabeth and Margaret. Lucas and Georgia are new to me and the others ... well I just did not know untill you posted this information.
Two more questions on the Wingham group:
Did Wingham WP have their chimpanzees with the latest EEP studbook genetics tests done? Be nice to know....!
Second question that pops up is ... How much information do we have on the original Yerkes Primate Center founders and from what sources have their stock been sources? So, all their current chimpanzees were imported direct from Yerkes Primate Center (including both males Fritz and Lucas)????
Thanks tankyboiI try to watch there morning live streams on TikTok and they have said on there before where the new tigers are is where the new lions are gonna be aswell plan is to having a breeding pair of asiatic lions