Zoological Park of Sao Paulo Zoologico de Sao Paulo

Some updates of the zoo:

- They received a female Jaguar from Vale's zoobotanical park, in order to achieve reproduction with their old male.
- The zoo now also holds Pied tamarin. One individual (maybe more? A single individual is shown/identified when they announced the arrival of the species, so by now, I will say its only one animal) arrived at the zoo a little more than a month ago.
- Their Barbary sheep have moved into a new exhibit (formerly used by Maned wolves and Cheetas in the past), and are now living with Grey-crowned cranes.
- An alpaca was recently born, and so did some 0.4 lion cubs, but the latter actually happened on December, if I recall correctly.
- The Spectacled bear exhibit is receiving renovations, which, if all goes well, will be a massive update of their former enclousure. The zoo also received a female from Salvador, which was exchanged for their last Plain's zebra (0.1).

Here's some links:
Onça-pintada é transferida de avião para zoológico de SP, onde ajudará na conservação da espécie originária do Cerrado | São Paulo | G1
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Velas said:
Zoo São Paulo has just gained another giraffe! Born yesterday, it was announced today by the zoo's instagram profile, and it is a male. Thank you @Enzo for updating the giraffe database with this exciting news!
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The new calf was named "Melman" (yeah, the same name as the giraffe from Madagascar, how original...), after a public voting on the zoo's Instagram profile

Zoológico de São Paulo on Instagram: "TEMOS UM NOME! Vocês votaram, torceram e agora é oficial: nosso filhote se chama Melman! Com mais de 5 mil votos, o nome escolhido conquistou corações e já veio com direito a RG e tudo! ✨ E se você achou esse nome uma fofura, imagina ver o Melman de pertinho? Então corre pro Zoo e venha conhecer essa gracinha pessoalmente! #MelmanNoZoo #Filhote #FilhotedeGirafa #ZooSãoPaulo #Girafinha #VemProZoo"
 
hey guys, it's me, lucas, formely known here as betoyoung, but now i'm using a new account, i came here to say that the zoo will get a couple of bengal tigers and they will get an incredible new enclosure, which promises to be beautiful, and also the simba safari is already building new things, such as the new blackbucks and giraffes' enclosures and also the new entrance for the safari.
 
LordWolf16 said:
hey guys, it's me, lucas, formely known here as betoyoung, but now i'm using a new account, i came here to say that the zoo will get a couple of bengal tigers and they will get an incredible new enclosure, which promises to be beautiful, and also the simba safari is already building new things, such as the new blackbucks and giraffes' enclosures and also the new entrance for the safari.
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Hello, Lucas.

I'd recommend posting a new thread on New Member Introductions so more people get to know about your return.

A few of us were aware about the white "Bengal" tigers. They were born at Animália Park but the parents are from Beto Carrero World. If I am not mistaken, they are a sibling pair. Their arrival at Zoo SP might have something to do with the two lions from São Paulo currently in Cotia.

What left us distraught was the fact the old Andean bear enclosure (which had housed Ursidae since at least the 1970s until now and was going under renovations) will now be home to a pair of tigers with no conservational value.

How did you find out the new enclosure was for blackbuck? Are they planning to mix both species?
 
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LordWolf16 said:
hey guys, it's me, lucas, formely known here as betoyoung, but now i'm using a new account, i came here to say that the zoo will get a couple of bengal tigers and they will get an incredible new enclosure, which promises to be beautiful, and also the simba safari is already building new things, such as the new blackbucks and giraffes' enclosures and also the new entrance for the safari.
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Hey Lucas, it's nice to see you back.

About the tiger situation, as Enzo said, we were aware about their arrival (and at least saying for me), were waiting for the zoo to make an official announcement. They're a brother-sister sibling pair that was born in Animália Park a few months ago, and unfortunately, are two white "bengal" tigers.

The exhibit that they will live wasn't actually planned for them inicially, because it was supposed to held the zoo's Spectacled bears (it is being constructed in the site of the former bear enclousure). I am deeply saddened by this decision because, once again, Zoo SP has chosen to get another unnecessary species for their collection just to fill a gap and attract more visitors, instead of giving larger and better exhibits for their residents (and also messing things up by placing an Asian species on a area dedicated to Latin american animals).

Hopefully, if a little bit of sense comes to their mind, they will move these tigers to one of the large carnivores exhibits once some of their lions move out to the safari park and put the bears back on their exhibit, but I won't be surprised if they don't do it so. The choice of getting generic tigers just to fill a gap left from their another white tigers instead of entering an EEP of either Sumatran or Siberian tigers also angers me out, since it won't help to resolve the problems with the tiger population in our zoos.

Leaving that aside, interesting to know about the blackbucks. I already knew that they moved one of their giraffes to the safari area, but not about those antelopes. Where did you find out about this?
 
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Enzo said:
Hello, Lucas.

I'd recommend posting a new thread on New Member Introductions so more people get to know about your return.

A few of us were aware about the white "Bengal" tigers. They were born at Animália Park but the parents are from Beto Carrero World. If I am not mistaken, they are a sibling pair. Their arrival at Zoo SP might have something to do with the two lions from São Paulo currently in Cotia.

What left us distraught was the fact the old Andean bear enclosure (which had housed Ursidae since at least the 1970s until now and was going under renovations) will now be home to a pair of tigers with no conservational value.

How did you find out the new enclosure was for blackbuck? Are they planning to mix both species?
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well, i have a friend of mine, that is also a fan of zoos but he has no account here, and he follow many building accounts on instagram, so he told me everything that i mentioned in my posts.
 
Velas said:
Hey Lucas, it's nice to see you back.

About the tiger situation, as Enzo said, we were aware about their arrival (and at least saying for me), were waiting for the zoo to make an official announcement. They're a brother-sister sibling pair that was born in Animália Park a few months ago, and unfortunately, are two white "bengal" tigers.

The exhibit that they will live wasn't actually planned for them inicially, because it was supposed to held the zoo's Spectacled bears (it is being constructed in the site of the former bear enclousure). I am deeply saddened by this decision because, once again, Zoo SP has chosen to get another unnecessary species for their collection just to fill a gap and attract more visitors, instead of giving larger and better exhibits for their residents (and also messing things up by placing an Asian species on a area dedicated to Latin american animals).

Hopefully, if a little bit of sense comes to their mind, they will move these tigers to one of the large carnivores exhibits once some of their lions move out to the safari park and put the bears back on their exhibit, but I won't be surprised if they don't do it so. The choice of getting generic tigers just to fill a gap left from their another white tigers instead of entering an EEP of either Sumatran or Siberian tigers also angers me out, since it won't help to resolve the problems with the tiger population in our zoos.

Leaving that aside, interesting to know about the blackbucks. I already knew that they moved one of their giraffes to the safari area, but not about those antelopes. Where did you find out about this?
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i have a friend of mine, that is also a fan of zoos but he has no account here, and he follow many building accounts on instagram, so he told me everything that i mentioned in my posts.
 
LordWolf16 said:
i have a friend of mine, that is also a fan of zoos but he has no account here, and he follow many building accounts on instagram, so he told me everything that i mentioned in my posts.
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Oh, i see it. Thanks for answering my question, but the double answer wasn't really needed, since Enzo and I somewhat asked the same question :p
 
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LordWolf16 said:
well, i just wanted to answer you guys politely
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Oh, don't worry, I wasn't dismissing of your politeness! I just said that because it was a coincidence that both our questions were the same, hence why I made that comment. Sorry if it sounded somewhat rude, wasn't my intention :confused:
 
Velas said:
Oh, don't worry, I wasn't dismissing of your politeness! I just said that because it was a coincidence that both our questions were the same, hence why I made that comment. Sorry if it sounded somewhat rude, wasn't my intention :confused:
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nah man, you weren't rude, i got what you meant, no worries.
 
Velas said:
Hey Lucas, it's nice to see you back.

About the tiger situation, as Enzo said, we were aware about their arrival (and at least saying for me), were waiting for the zoo to make an official announcement. They're a brother-sister sibling pair that was born in Animália Park a few months ago, and unfortunately, are two white "bengal" tigers.

The exhibit that they will live wasn't actually planned for them inicially, because it was supposed to held the zoo's Spectacled bears (it is being constructed in the site of the former bear enclousure). I am deeply saddened by this decision because, once again, Zoo SP has chosen to get another unnecessary species for their collection just to fill a gap and attract more visitors, instead of giving larger and better exhibits for their residents (and also messing things up by placing an Asian species on a area dedicated to Latin american animals).

Hopefully, if a little bit of sense comes to their mind, they will move these tigers to one of the large carnivores exhibits once some of their lions move out to the safari park and put the bears back on their exhibit, but I won't be surprised if they don't do it so. The choice of getting generic tigers just to fill a gap left from their another white tigers instead of entering an EEP of either Sumatran or Siberian tigers also angers me out, since it won't help to resolve the problems with the tiger population in our zoos.

Leaving that aside, interesting to know about the blackbucks. I already knew that they moved one of their giraffes to the safari area, but not about those antelopes. Where did you find out about this?
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Zoológico de São Paulo on Instagram: "Eles chegaram! Os tigres já estão no Zoo e você não pode perder a chance de conhecer o maior felino do mundo de pertinho! Programe sua visita e venha se impressionar com cada passo desses gigantes! #ZooSãoPaulo #TigresNoZoo #MaiorFelinoDoMundo #Biodiversidade #DiaDeZoo #Tigre"

The zoo has just announced that the two tigers are now on exhibit. To our surprise, they aren't actually white "bengal" tigers, but instead are the orange generic pair that was living on Animália Park until a few weeks ago. I believe there was a misunderstanding when reporting the transfer of these animals with the new white tiger cubs born in Cotia some months ago (0.0.3 individuals, that were also officially announced on their Instagram profile today).

I feel relieved that SP isn't actually having white tigers (again) on their collection, but only slightly. It is still very unfortunate that these two aren't pure individuals and I'm still angry that the bears lost the opportunity of getting a larger and newly constructed exhibit that was being built for them, just so that the zoo could get a more popular species on display in the sake of attracting more visitors. These two individuals are also siblings, and although they are both elderly, I'm really hoping that AT LEAST the zoo prevents them to produce any offspring (but I won't be suprised if that happens though...).
 
Velas said:
Zoológico de São Paulo on Instagram: "Eles chegaram! Os tigres já estão no Zoo e você não pode perder a chance de conhecer o maior felino do mundo de pertinho! Programe sua visita e venha se impressionar com cada passo desses gigantes! #ZooSãoPaulo #TigresNoZoo #MaiorFelinoDoMundo #Biodiversidade #DiaDeZoo #Tigre"

The zoo has just announced that the two tigers are now on exhibit. To our surprise, they aren't actually white "bengal" tigers, but instead are the orange generic pair that was living on Animália Park until a few weeks ago. I believe there was a misunderstanding when reporting the transfer of these animals with the new white tiger cubs born in Cotia some months ago (0.0.3 individuals, that were also officially announced on their Instagram profile today).

I feel relieved that SP isn't actually having white tigers (again) on their collection, but only slightly. It is still very unfortunate that these two aren't pure individuals and I'm still angry that the bears lost the opportunity of getting a larger and newly constructed exhibit that was being built for them, just so that the zoo could get a more popular species on display in the sake of attracting more visitors. These two individuals are also siblings, and although they are both elderly, I'm really hoping that AT LEAST the zoo prevents them to produce any offspring (but I won't be suprised if that happens though...).
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i hate to be negative, but i suppose they will die soon
 
LordWolf16 said:
i hate to be negative, but i suppose they will die soon
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Do you mean you hope they die soon or do you actually supose that? The "I hate to be negative" part got me confused.

Despite of that, although these guys won't stick around for very long due to their age, I don't believe that they will be dying soon. Zoo SP might have some controversial attitudes about their animals, but I can assure you that they're in very good hands when the subject is veterinary care, so these tigers got a few years to go.
 
LordWolf16 said:
i hate to be negative, but i suppose they will die soon
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I'll be honest: Since the only big cat sanctuary in the country is rather controversial when it comes to the diet of its residents, I actually hope they die. This would maybe incentivise Brazilian zoos to join EEPs if they desire to exhibit any kind of tiger. We are running low on stock and our population is very elderly.

South America would be great for tiger EEPs, but almost all of our current stock is of zoo-mix. Perhaps, the only non generic tigers still around are in Itatiba.
 
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