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Andrew Mazza said:
That large paddock has always had an Emu for the last decade and a half I believe. Regardless, not really a new thing.

Exciting to hear that the clouded leopard is actually on exhibit now! I’m planning to visit the zoo later this month and introduce it to a bunch of my coworkers, so I’m really hopeful we see the clouded leopard during our visit! I really wish the zoo would have made a big deal/announcement of this new addition.

Very nice to hear that the otters can be seen in their old pool again! You know, whenever that last langur passes, I honestly wouldn’t mind too much if they gave that exhibit to just the otters only instead of adding another monkey species and put something (anything) else in the space across the tree kangaroos. Don’t get me wrong though, I would prefer to have a new monkey species there. Crab-eating macaque or proboscis monkey preferred. Maybe even get both and mix the 2 as they’re apparently known to interact in the wild (though obviously space and chances of them getting along would be the main issues).

What kind of renovation was the Mouse House going under?
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JungleWorld Species Ideas:

Former Otter Exhibit:
Binturong
Fishing Cat
Chinese Pangolin
Asian Palm Civet
or Asian Water Monitor

Primate Island Exhibit:
Proboscis Monkey
Lion-tailed Macaque
Hanuman Langur
Crab-eating Macaque
François’ Langur
Pig-tailed Macaque
or Red-shanked Douc

Malayan Tapir Exhibit (rotational species):
Sumatran Rhinoceros
Bornean Bearded Pig
Indian Crested Porcupine
Lowland Anoa
 
Chinese Pangolin, Asian Palm Civet, all primates but the Francois Langur, and Sumatran Rhino, Bearded Pig are all almost completely unattainable in the US though. Crab-Eating Macaque is held at Indianapolis Zoo, who purchased theirs from a laboratory breeding center, and Lion-Tailed Macaques are held in US populations, but in small, geriatric numbers and are a phase out species.
 
Grant said:
Chinese Pangolin, Asian Palm Civet, all primates but the Francois Langur, and Sumatran Rhino, Bearded Pig are all almost completely unattainable in the US though. Crab-Eating Macaque is held at Indianapolis Zoo, who purchased theirs from a laboratory breeding center, and Lion-Tailed Macaques are held in US populations, but in small, geriatric numbers and are a phase out species.
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I think you could acquire more lion-tailed macaques from the EAZA but I'd rather do crab eating macaques since it fits the mangrove theme and they can swim around.

Only thing I'd do is add more climbing stuff and some tree houses for them to chill in
 
tigris115 said:
I think you could acquire more lion-tailed macaques from the EAZA but I'd rather do crab eating macaques since it fits the mangrove theme and they can swim around.

Only thing I'd do is add more climbing stuff and some tree houses for them to chill in
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But what about proboscis monkeys?
 
Great Argus said:
Difficult to obtain and I suspect expensive to feed, not something Bronx needs.

Aside from complete lack of availability, Sumatran Rhino would not be a good fit size-wise for that building.
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From what I have dread on this thread Probocis monkeys were a phase out species by AZA with none, currently, in North America .
If the Langur exhibit is to be converted into a mono specific exhibit for Asian small clawed otters than easiest fit for their former exhibit would likely be bintorang which, if memory serves, occupied that enclosure subsequent to the Siamese crocodiles and the current Asian small clawed otters that are currently there
 
Don Majeski said:
From what I have dread on this thread Probocis monkeys were a phase out species by AZA with none, currently, in North America .
If the Langur exhibit is to be converted into a mono specific exhibit for Asian small clawed otters than easiest fit for their former exhibit would likely be bintorang which, if memory serves, occupied that enclosure subsequent to the Siamese crocodiles and the current Asian small clawed otters that are currently there
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They already have a crocodilian species in JungleWorld, the gharials.
 
RaptorFan9000 said:
They already have a crocodilian species in JungleWorld, the gharials.
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I wasn’t advocating for bringing back Siamese crocodiles but stating the the likeliest replacement for the Asian small clawed otters than- should they be permanently shifted to the Langur exhibit - would be bintourong - which, I stated, had previously the space that had originally exhibited Siamese crocodiles and , subsequently, Asian small clawed otters.
I am aware of the Gharial - the cornerstone species of Jungle Workd
 
Don Majeski said:
I wasn’t advocating for bringing back Siamese crocodiles but stating the the likeliest replacement for the Asian small clawed otters than- should they be permanently shifted to the Langur exhibit - would be bintourong - which, I stated, had previously the space that had originally exhibited Siamese crocodiles and , subsequently, Asian small clawed otters.
I am aware of the Gharial - the cornerstone species of Jungle Workd
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The best idea is to bring the proboscis monkeys back to the monkey island exhibit, and binturongs back to the other otter exhibit like it used to be back in the 1990s to early 2000s.
 
There is next to no chance of them obtaining Proboscis Monkeys, Sumatran Rhino, Chinese Pangolin, or Civet. I also don’t think it would be desirable for the zoo to rotate Anoa nor any other hoofstock with the Tapir, and to be honest I don’t think it’s a great enclosure for the inhabitants as is.

The other species mentioned are a possibility, though still highly unlikely. I don’t think Douc’s are going to happen, but providing they do well in France and Czechia then it’s not impossible we see a renaissance of them in Western Zoos.
 
RaptorFan9000 said:
The best idea is to bring the proboscis monkeys back to the monkey island exhibit, and binturongs back to the other otter exhibit like it used to be back in the 1990s to early 2000s.
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This would be anything but the best idea, and would in fact be a terrible one. They’ve proven all but impossible to keep outside of east Asia, and as much as I would love to see them in our zoos I don’t think the conveyer belt of dead monkeys that would come with it are worth it in the slightest!
 
First how would the zoo even acquire such species? And man, give up the idea of the zoo acquiring any of those species. The zoo will not and likely never acquire none of those but possibly the binturong, fishing cat, or anoa. Why would the zoo even get rid of the Malayan tapirs? They have 1 left, and the zoo could easily get another one. Mind you, the zoo has had multiple individual animals that have lasted for years at the zoo alone! What will happen is the zoo will acquire Francois Langurs and the stories over. I doubt that the zoo will go out of their way to acquire any species that inhabits mangroves, as the only alternatives imo, are the javan langur (gone from aza, 4-6 zoos outside aza), or the crab eating macaques, only existing at one zoo. The otters accessing this exhibit will only be temporary, up until the final langur dies passes in the future.
 
RaptorFan9000 said:
But what if it is real? It might happen in the future.
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Speculative predictions/suggestions are probably better suited for a general discussion or speculative zoo design thread. But this thread isn't it. Besides, most of your suggestions are patently absurd.

Aside from the issues of even obtaining most of the listed species that others have already covered, you are also suggesting that they ROTATE Sumatran Rhinos and/or Lowland Anoas with Tapirs in an ALL-INDOOR exhibit that is barely adequate for just the Tapirs alone to begin with. That would require extensive (and expensive) alterations to the building's infrastructure and Tapir holding spaces. Not to mention the thought of one species spending entire days cooped up in holding stalls.
 
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