Same ! Shocked that no government zoo or animal rescue or equine society came to their rescue !
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Same ! Shocked that no government zoo or animal rescue or equine society came to their rescue !
Considering their status and very limited numbers in the region its puzzling why the lack of interest!
Being equine they are probably quite expensive for an ungulate. Who's who at the zoo i remember having an episode where they had to bring in a farrier the TWPZ herd, and they are probably fed similarly to other equines making them potentially more expensive then other ungulate species. Being an Asian species they seem to be usually put in odd corners as most of our zoos theme African that have them.
IF our open range zoo's created more emphasis on asian theming instead of it taking a back seat. They could be better displayed along with other african hoofstock in precinct's with elephants and rhino.
Zambi has announced the birth of a Przewalski’s foal from their recently rescued herd.
Email from Zambi
Zambi’s first herd of Przewalski’s horses have certainly settled in well and are in beautiful condition. It just shows with the proper care and diet the difference that can be made.
The DNA results taken before they arrived at Zambi came back as genetically viable for the species conservation which was exciting news for the region and this week we were blessed with the birth of a foal from mare TUYA.
At this time the sex is unknown as mum is keeping the foal under her close guard.
We are happy to share this with TUYA’s proud sponsors , SUTTON ENGINEERING. Once we sex and name the newborn we will be looking for her future sponsor so stay tuned.
Also on their social media page they have unveiled new renovations of a habitat for new tiger to arrive soon.
Email from Zambi
Zambi’s first herd of Przewalski’s horses have certainly settled in well and are in beautiful condition. It just shows with the proper care and diet the difference that can be made.
The DNA results taken before they arrived at Zambi came back as genetically viable for the species conservation which was exciting news for the region and this week we were blessed with the birth of a foal from mare TUYA.
At this time the sex is unknown as mum is keeping the foal under her close guard.
We are happy to share this with TUYA’s proud sponsors , SUTTON ENGINEERING. Once we sex and name the newborn we will be looking for her future sponsor so stay tuned.
Also on their social media page they have unveiled new renovations of a habitat for new tiger to arrive soon.
It’ll be interesting to see where this tiger comes from.
The most likely scenario is Dreamworld are looking to reduce their holdings following their move to protected contact; but optimistically, I wonder if Ballarat or the National Zoo could be looking to transfer something out in favour of increasing their capacity for Sumatran tigers (probably wishful thinking).
It should be one of the young hybrids from Dreamworld.
Mmmm, I deplore that this is not a tiger conservation story cum narrative.
Aside: What are the numbers of tiger hybrids at Dreamworld like? More important, are they still reproducing (that would be even badder or worse....!)?
It is great that Zambi Wildlife came to the rescue of the languishing Przewalski wild horse herd out there in outback!
Thanks also for the added on information on current herd members and the bloodlines / founders this herd was created from (alot of Marwell Zoo founders ..., one station ex Whipsnade which is good).
Just wondering though, how do the current herd relate back to them (this because you have not listed the parentage - sire and dam - for the current herd members).
Also, any more information on those 10 foals born 1990 - 2002 (of which ... I just guessing the current 8 are the 8/10, right?
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Current hybrids at Dreamworld:
1.0 Pi (19/07/2010) Hari x Louise
1.0 Javi (26/04/2019) Pi x Adira
1.0 Zakari (26/04/2019) Pi x Adira
1.0 Khan (25/05/2019) Raja x Nika
0.1 Kali (02/11/2015) Imported 2016
0.1 Kiko (02/11/2015) Imported 2016
0.1 Adira (29/11/2015) Raja x Nika
They haven't had cubs in over six years now; and it honestly doesn't look like they intend to breed again.
Zambi’s Przewalski’s wild horse herd were rescued from Fernhill Estate where they’d been living as a feral herd for around 20 years. Information on the eight individuals I listed are unknown (including DOB); though genetic analysis was undertaken to ascertain their suitability for breeding, which likely provided information on the relatedness of the individuals in the herd.
1.0 Kahn
1.0 Batu (gelding)
1.0 Serik (gelding)
0.1 Sarnai
0.1 Och
0.1 Tuya
0.1 Koko
0.1 Nara
The 10 foals born 1990-2002 would be 23-35 years old, which is beyond the age I’d expect the Fernhill Estate horses to have reached.
Dreamworld are working to reduce their tiger numbers long term following the move to protected contact.
It’s clear breeding generics had appeal as they could breed as and when they wanted versus waiting for breeding recommendations to breed Sumatran tigers; and for many years, there’s still been a demand for generic tigers within Australia.
Long time, I hope they switch to Sumatrans, which in the context of protected contact hold the equivalent appeal of generics; but actually have some conservation value. However, I’m not holding my breath. Unless Sumatran tigers can be provided to the private zoos as and when they acquire them, they’re going to want to source generics due to a lack of alternative.
Przewalski horse
Does you comment relating to the 10 goals born 1990-2002 mean that these remain at Fernhill/Mulgoa or are now deceased?
I guess - at present - you have no further information on the parentage of the 8 Przewalski horses now transferred from Fernhill to Zambi Wildlife?
Generic tigers
You touch an interesting point where the major ZAA zoos should relinquish some of their current power base to private zoos members of the organisation and be a good space for many ex situ conservation breeding programs ZAA is involved with. Further, the private zoo community is the ONLY ONE able and willing to go to the complex processes / protocols / procedures and negotiations to import/export wild/exotic species of conservation interest in and out of the Antipodes nations (I mean both Australia AND New Zealand, even though our Kiwi Brothers and Sisters have a more relaxed view/mode of operation vis a vis imports/exports).
Regarding the 10 foals born 1990-2002, I doubt many (if any) are still alive at this point. Though the species can reach 35 years in captivity, 20 years is a more typical lifespan. Within the managed population, there’s only a smaller number within that age bracket (1990’s) that are still alive and the Fernhill population weren’t receiving a fraction of the care (including veterinary care).
I have no further information on Zambi’s eight horses other than that they’re the first of three herds to be rescued from Fernhill.
I fully agree regarding privately owned zoos being provided with the opportunity to acquire surplus Sumatran tigers and moreover, a conscious effort made to support them in this endeavour by breeding accordingly to generate said surplus.
A litter of Sumatran tiger cubs bred for other reason than to supply an accredited holder with display animals is far preferable than that same space being allocated to generic tigers.
New Zealand zoos are just as proactive in importing. Auckland Zoo imported a breeding pair of Sumatran tigers in 2022, who were the first Sumatran tiger imports into the region since 2008. Auckland Zoo similarly imported the first orangutan into the region since 1995 with the import of Daya in 2023; and have also recently imported the region’s only False gharial.
Other notable imports in the last decade include Fishing cats from Europe (Hamilton Zoo); Siamang from Europe (Orana); and Lowland nyala from South Africa (Wellington and Auckland).
Osedax
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Mulgoa's certainly not the outback...
Nope, I do know (and I appreciate your interjection to correct on geography/notions) ....!!!!! I more or less (for lack of a better expression) used it - I am sorry if it led astray or something - to signify that these important and genetically valuable Przewalski horses were basically "in limbo" forgotten, mismanaged and no wild animal welfare authorities, Govt. institutions nor ZAA institutions seemed to be too bothered with them languishing in an unmanaged property (hell, this has happened before here ..., mind you)! Perhaps, I should have used now in a backwater unmanaged property or in the dumps instead of "The Outback". But the semantics are taking away from the real issues here! So, let us get back on track please..., thank you!
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As for the idea of the ZAA should relinquish some of its power well that's very unlikely only a couple of the big zoos hold any amount in numbers/groups and that unlikely to change the way things are operated
Given ZAA's recent mismanaged debacles with white rhino, pygmy hippo, bongo and other species reality must at some point give ...! The current powerhouse ZAA controlling mechanism is untenable into the future, in particular with only MBA and financial/business management at the top in certain facilities.
Still unlikely to change the big guys rule!
scallywag2024
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Pi has joined Zambi from dreamworld.
Congrats to the Zambi family.
Congrats to the Zambi family.