MOG2012
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Which aviary now has socorro doves?-This could very well be a case of me just overlooking it, but I did notice sinage for socorro doves in the pheasant aviaries behind Congo now.
Which aviary now has socorro doves?-This could very well be a case of me just overlooking it, but I did notice sinage for socorro doves in the pheasant aviaries behind Congo now.
I can't remember which one specifically, but it's one of the middle ones in the pheasant aviaries behind Congo - the ones on the path that passes the flamingos and goes to the cafe.Which aviary now has socorro doves?
The Bronx is, indeed, down to one individual dhole, leaving the North American population with 2.4 at Granby, 3.2 at The Wilds, and 1.0 at the Bronx.-My major concern is for the dholes. Their exhibit is now completed closed with a sign in the center noting the closure. I have heard a rumor they are down to one dhole. Can anyone confirm this? If true, I would think it very doubtful that this species will be on display again at Bronx, which is extremely unfortunate. The only way I see them on display again is if they import from either The Wilds or Zoo de Granby, or from Europe, but Granby is already in that process from what I understand, and it is lengthy and difficult.
I think that the Zoo Granby wants to breed them and keep them in the long term. I believe Zoo Granby has a good relation with the EEP based on their import of 2 male dholes and their export of their female Amur leopard. But the process of importing these two dholes has taken 2 years or more. It was really difficult to import these males and it takes lots of time. The problem is that the zoo doesn't even know if the four females can still breed; we have already lost one.Is Granby attempting to import more dholes from Europe? They did already successfully import two males from France. I mean, unless they are able to get the two females from The Wilds, they’d have to import from Europe if they’re serious about breeding them… Three of the four females they received from the San Diego Zoo Safari Park are all from the same litter that the males at the Bronx were from and the fourth is actually older…
How did you find out about this? WCS never discloses their losses on social media so the only times I ever find out are if I visit and notice something missingThe Bronx is, indeed, down to one individual dhole, leaving the North American population with 2.4 at Granby, 3.2 at The Wilds, and 1.0 at the Bronx.
It’s like a boxing manager who only his boxer’s win but not his defeats or a baseball team that published only victories but never lossesHow did you find out about this? WCS never discloses their losses on social media so the only times I ever find out are if I visit and notice something missing
Well at least they deigned to dhole out the information if grudginglyI emailed the zoos about the dholes, and according to the zoo, there’s no plans to change the species in the Dhole habitat at this time; little vague but I guess there’s still hope for Dholes in the Bronx!
-Major gorilla updates! Johari the silverback has been moved on habitat with four females: Barbara, Halima, Kamara and Layla. I am so hopeful for babies, as it's now been many years since Bronx has had a gorilla birth. It was so interesting to watch them all together and see this new social dynamic. The girls seem to be interested in Johari, but are also wary of him.
I assume that the Zoo de Granby will now be an out of Continent participant in the European EAZA/EEP for dholes. Otherwise, the zoo would never have been able to get their hands on some unrelated dholes from Europe.I think that the Zoo Granby wants to breed them and keep them in the long term. I believe Zoo Granby has a good relation with the EEP based on their import of 2 male dholes and their export of their female Amur leopard. But the process of importing these two dholes has taken 2 years or more. It was really difficult to import these males and it takes lots of time. The problem is that the zoo doesn't even know if the four females can still breed; we have already lost one.
I regret not asking questions to the keepers when I visited.
Or did it pass away? I know it was pretty old. Fort Worth is the only other facility to have one; and it is a lone individual.The Storm’s stork has been relocated to another zoo
I spoke to a bird keeper. He didn’t pass. He was relocated somewhere in Texas, the keeper didn’t say where, but likely fort worthOr did it pass away? I know it was pretty old. Fort Worth is the only other facility to have one; and it is a lone individual.
Great! Is it possible for breeding? I know Fort Worth has a female. The good thing is he can live his golden years in the sunI spoke to a bird keeper. He didn’t pass. He was relocated somewhere in Texas, the keeper didn’t say where, but likely fort worth
Yes, it’s for breeding. Is the female at Fort Worth old as well or younger?Great! Is it possible for breeding? I know Fort Worth has a female. The good thing is he can live his golden years in the sun![]()
A bit younger, maybe 12-18 years old I think? Bronx’s I think hatched in the late 90s; maybe 98?Yes, it’s for breeding. Is the female at Fort Worth old as well or younger?
Some updates from my visit yesterday.
The Javan/silvered leaf langur are currently alternating with the otters on exhibit. I didn’t see anything in there, so I’d assume the otters were in there just hiding.
There is a single crocodile in the Tsingy caves exhibit in Madagascar, which appears to be a west African, not a Nile, despite the sign still lists them as Nile.
The Storm’s stork has been relocated to another zoo. The sign for the grey-necked wood rail was also removed, I wonder if it passed away.
The sailfin lizards in the first exhibit to the left in World of Birds with the maleos have been relocated to another zoo.
Only saw three ring-tailed lemurs and two collared lemurs in the spiny forest exhibit in Madagascar. I’ve always seen four ring-tailed lemurs and two collared lemurs, I wonder if one of the ring-tails passed away recently?
The king vultures have been moved inside for the winter, and the snowy owls are now on exhibit in Birds of Prey.