Mixed species exhibit ideas

[Velas]

How feasible would it be to mix fish species from the Amazon river alongside Green anacondas? If it is indeed, which species found in AZA could work? I would also like to know what other fish species from the Amazon river, as well as some tropical fish from Africa and Asia could work out in a tropical dome type of walkthrough aviary (sorry in advance if this is not the right thread for this, as I'm somewhat unsure. If you guys need the species in the tropical dome walkthrough, I'll let you know).

 

[Jana]

How feasible would it be to mix fish species from the Amazon river alongside Green anacondas?

Various species of stingrays, oscar, pacu etc work well with anacondas.

 

[PossumRoach]

So I already mentioned a few walkthrough aviaries on my Kobe Animal Kingdom speculation thread. However some of the aviaries don’t have a solid line up as the others, so they aren’t as finalized as I wish, which is why I am asking for suggestions. The following are the aviaries in question:

The first one is called Tropical Pool/Water Lilies and features Java sparrows, red whiskered bulbuls, golden bellied starlings, and crested wood partridges. Would this mix work? As you could tell, I am not really focused on one particular continent, and I want to add a few more species to this mix. I know for sure that I wont be adding large pheasants and hornbills into this mix.

The second aviary is one half of a walkthrough rainforest enclosure, also not limited to a single continent. The birds are tawny frogmouth, toco toucan, blue and gold macaw, and green-winged macaw. The macaws don't have to stay in the final mix in this section and I already suggested that they get exhibited elsewhere in the park on my thread. On my thread I have mentioned the idea of adding superb starlings, lilac breasted rollers, or red-billed hornbills, but I assume all three birds won’t work together. Which one would work with the frogmouth and toucans the best? I also want to add sunbittern to fill in the terrestrial bird niche. This part will also have radiated tortoise, green iguana, and Chacoan mara in the speculative plan.

The third aviary is the second half of the previously mentioned walkthrough rainforest enclosure. They are separated from each other. The second half of the rainforest walkthrough has violet turaco, western plantain-eater, Victoria crowned pigeon, red-billed toucan, and more crested wood partridges. Would it be more appropriate to keep the turaco and plantain-eaters away from each other? Is it feasible to add another bird species to this mix? The enclosure already has free ranging common marmosets, tamanduas and sloths in real life. For the speculative project I plan on having free ranging cotton-top tamarins and a Mexican spiny-tailed iguana.

So these are my questions. You can check Chlidonias’s thread to see how large or small the enclosures are before determining whether or not the mixes are feasible and the area can handle more species.

 

[Paul.Haerle]

The second aviary is one half of a walkthrough rainforest enclosure, also not limited to a single continent. The birds are tawny frogmouth, toco toucan, blue and gold macaw, and green-winged macaw. The macaws don't have to stay in the final mix in this section and I already suggested that they get exhibited elsewhere in the park on my thread. On my thread I have mentioned the idea of adding superb starlings, lilac breasted rollers, or red-billed hornbills, but I assume all three birds won’t work together. Which one would work with the frogmouth and toucans the best? I also want to add sunbittern to fill in the terrestrial bird niche. This part will also have radiated tortoise, green iguana, and Chacoan mara in the speculative plan.

I doubt the current mix is comfortable for the birds, because the toucans could kill frogmouths and macaws and toucans do fight in wildlife.
The toucans could be kept with a bigger species of guan and Solitary Tinamous.
Frougmouths would be mixable with Trichoglossus-species, Blue-faced Honeyeater, Nicobar, crowned and imperial pigeons.

The first one is called Tropical Pool/Water Lilies and features Java sparrows, red whiskered bulbuls, golden bellied starlings, and crested wood partridges. Would this mix work? As you could tell, I am not really focused on one particular continent, and I want to add a few more species to this mix. I know for sure that I wont be adding large pheasants and hornbills into this

Should work. Grosbeak Starling, several species of fruit doves, green and imperial pigeons, Silver-eared Leiothrix and Oriental Magpie Robins would be possible.

The third aviary is the second half of the previously mentioned walkthrough rainforest enclosure. They are separated from each other. The second half of the rainforest walkthrough has violet turaco, western plantain-eater, Victoria crowned pigeon, red-billed toucan, and more crested wood partridges. Would it be more appropriate to keep the turaco and plantain-eaters away from each other? Is it feasible to add another bird species to this mix? The enclosure already has free ranging common marmosets, tamanduas and sloths in real life. For the speculative project I plan on having free ranging cotton-top tamarins and a Mexican spiny-tailed iguana.

Turaco and plain-eater should definitely work together, if they don’t breed (but breeding would be impossible because of the toucans). Nicobar Pigeons could be added.

 

[Velas]

Would the following species work out in a walkthrough aviary?:

Asian fairy bluebird, Bali myna, Purple glossy starling, Saffron finch, Superb starling, Raggiana bird-of-the-paradise, Speckled mousebird, Blue-gray tanager and Monk parakeet.

They would live in the tropical dome exhibit that I talked on the post about the freswater fish species, alongside some other large bird species from Africa, South America and Asia, as well as some waterfowl species.

 

[Paul.Haerle]

Asian fairy bluebird, Bali myna, Purple glossy starling, Saffron finch, Superb starling, Raggiana bird-of-the-paradise, Speckled mousebird, Blue-gray tanager and Monk parakeet.

Raggiana‘s Birds-of-Paradise are nest robbers.
Monk Parrots can stress and bully Saffron Finch and Blue-and-grey Tanager and destroy the vegetation.
Bali Myna, Purple Glossy Starling and Superb Starling could fight, depends on the aviary‘s sice.

 

[PossumRoach]

I doubt the current mix is comfortable for the birds, because the toucans could kill frogmouths

Now considering the fact that the park that I am basing my project off of already has this mix and the fact that a freak accident between these species hasn’t happened yet, I will not shrink the aviary into smaller pieces. If I were to follow your suggestion I would still have more questions and problems.

The toucans could be kept with a bigger species of guan and Solitary Tinamous.

So I should mention that for this project I can’t add paleognaths and guans especially because of Japan’s biosecurity laws for importing “fowl” and “ostrich” type birds to prevent avian influenza. So I the best I have for ground birds are some “basic” pheasants and sunbittern.

Frougmouths would be mixable with Trichoglossus-species, Blue-faced Honeyeater, Nicobar, crowned and imperial pigeons.

Do you have any suggestions for birds outside of Oceania as well? As I mentioned on the paragraph about water lilies, I am not focused in one particular continent. In fact I want to mix birds from different regions together, which is why I considered adding lilac breasted rollers or superb starlings (I decided that the hornbills won’t work.)

Should work. Grosbeak Starling, several species of fruit doves, green and imperial pigeons, Silver-eared Leiothrix and Oriental Magpie Robins would be possible.

Alright, and anything from outside of Asia? Because that was the thing I was expecting when I said “am not really focused on one particular continent”. With three species already from Asia I was expecting a second African species or a South American species.

Turaco and plain-eater should definitely work together, if they don’t breed (but breeding would be impossible because of the toucans). Nicobar Pigeons could be added.

That doesn’t sound bad. I guess I can stop keeping the toucans for the comfort of the animals. I still wouldn’t expect great breeding results due to the monkeys (despite the park having done so in the past.)

 

[Velas]

Raggiana‘s Birds-of-Paradise are nest robbers.

Do you have another similar-sized and "colourful" bird that could replace the Bird-of-Paradise without issues with the other species?

Monk Parrots can stress and bully Saffron Finch and Blue-and-grey Tanager and destroy the vegetation.

The vegetation issue will end up happening either way, as I plan to have macaws and amazons on this same walkthrough . A slightly larger sized parrot species could work out instead of them?

Bali Myna, Purple Glossy Starling and Superb Starling could fight, depends on the aviary‘s sice.

Size won't be a problem I believe, at least according to the dimensions that I'm thinking. The entire tropical dome would occupy a decently large portion of land on this zoo (I'm currently thinking of something around 1 acre for the whole complex, with the aviary composing most of it).

 

[Paul.Haerle]

Now considering the fact that the park that I am basing my project off of already has this mix and the fact that a freak accident between these species hasn’t happened yet, I will not shrink the aviary into smaller pieces. If I were to follow your suggestion I would still have more questions and problems

I wouldn’t part the aviary, I would just remove the toucans, but it’s your choice

Do you have any suggestions for birds outside of Oceania as well? As I mentioned on the paragraph about water lilies, I am not focused in one particular continent. In fact I want to mix birds from different regions together, which is why I considered adding lilac breasted rollers or superb starlings (I decided that the hornbills won’t work.)

For information, most birds I mentioned won’t work with Toco Toucans.
Livingstone‘s Turaco, Scarlet Ibis, Sunbittern and Green Oropendola (only without toucan) could work there.

Alright, and anything from outside of Asia? Because that was the thing I was expecting when I said “am not really focused on one particular continent”. With three species already from Asia I was expecting a second African species or a South American species

Blue-necked, Brazilian and Turquoise Tanager, Blue Ground Dove, Cuban Grassquit, Western Bluebill, Dybowski‘s Twinspot, Green Twinspot, Guinea Turaco, Madagascar Blue Pigeon and Bruce‘s Green Pigeon.

Do you have another similar-sized and "colourful" bird that could replace the Bird-of-Paradise without issues with the other species?

Great Blue Turaco and Purple-crested Turaco could work.

The vegetation issue will end up happening either way, as I plan to have macaws and amazons on this same walkthrough . A slightly larger sized parrot species could work out instead of them?

Most parrots stress and bully small passerines like tanagers, finches, sisikin etc. Lorikeets are one of the few types of parrots that could work.
I‘d prefer Edward‘s Marigold Lorikeets

 

[PossumRoach]

For information, most birds I mentioned won’t work with Toco Toucans.
Livingstone‘s Turaco, Scarlet Ibis, Sunbittern and Green Oropendola (only without toucan) could work there.

Alright I am liking this. I did previously think about ibises but I gave up on them because of the size of the flock the park already keeps. I can give up on the oropendola. Can I keep red-crested or white-cheeked turaco instead of Livingstones?

I assume superb starlings won’t work with the toucan either. How would lilac-breasted rollers do with the other birds?

Blue-necked, Brazilian and Turquoise Tanager, Blue Ground Dove, Cuban Grassquit, Western Bluebill, Dybowski‘s Twinspot, Green Twinspot, Guinea Turaco, Madagascar Blue Pigeon and Bruce‘s Green Pigeon.

That’s a nice selection of animals. I will choose blue ground-dove, Cuban grassquit, and Guinea turaco for the “Water Lilies” aviary.

Thank you so much for the suggestions so far.

 

[Paul.Haerle]

Can I keep red-crested or white-cheeked turaco instead of Livingstones?

Should work

assume superb starlings won’t work with the toucan either. How would lilac-breasted rollers do with the other birds?

You assume right and mixing with Tawny Frogmouths would be a bit risky too, as they catch small birds.
Lilac-breasted Roller and toucan don’t work neither, with Tawny Frogmouths it could be possible. But Lilac-breasted Rollers don’t live in rainforests

 

[PossumRoach]

Should work

You assume right and mixing with Tawny Frogmouths would be a bit risky too, as they catch small birds.
Lilac-breasted Roller and toucan don’t work neither, with Tawny Frogmouths it could be possible. But Lilac-breasted Rollers don’t live in rainforests

Awesome the first aviary having only a few new birds work since there will also be mammals and reptiles as well. Again, thank you so much.

 

[Persephone]

A few proposed mixes with exhibit sizes and other features of note.

1) Cinereous Vulture and Egyptian Vulture, 600 square meters, breeding

2) Fallow Deer, Red Deer, European Mouflon, 10,000 square meters, red deer and mouflon breeding

3) Baird’s Tapir, Collared Peccary, Great Curassow, King Vulture, Wood Stork, Muscovy Duck, Boat-Billed Heron, Scarlet Macaw, White-Fronted Amazon, Keel-Billed Toucan. 5,000 square meters in the general style of an okapi aviary. Most species breeding, separation area for young tapirs.

4) Guira Cuckoo, Mississippi Kite, Plush-Crested Jay, Big Hairy Armadillo. 150 square meter aviary, no breeding in aviary.

5) Coscoroba Swan, Rosy-Billed Pochard, Red-Breasted Cardinal, Hyacinth Macaw, Greater Rhea, Southern Screamer, Monk Parakeet, Green-Cheeked Parakeet, Nanday Parakeet, Nutria, Southern Three-Banded Armadillo. 2,500 square meter flooded savannah aviary. Most birds breeding, mammals probably not.

6) Tundra Swan, White-Naped Crane, Siberian Crane, Red-Crowned Crane, Lesser White-Fronted Goose, Baikal Teal, Baer’s Pochard, Harlequin Duck, Scaly-Sided Merganser, Mandarin Duck. ~4,000 square meters, most birds breeding, separation areas for swans and two crane species during the breeding season if necessary.

7) Honey Sucker, Mossy Frog, Yellow Pond Turtle, Black-Breasted Leaf Turtle, Four-Eyed Turtle, Chinese Box Turtle, White-Crested Laughingthrush. Reptiles and amphibians have access to 25 square meters, birds another 10.

 

[Paul.Haerle]

Baird’s Tapir, Collared Peccary, Great Curassow, King Vulture, Wood Stork, Muscovy Duck, Boat-Billed Heron, Scarlet Macaw, White-Fronted Amazon, Keel-Billed Toucan. 5,000 square meters in the general style of an okapi aviary. Most species breeding, separation area for young tapirs.

Keel-billed Toucan and parrots would fight.
Collared Pecaris could attack curassows, storks and ducks.

Tundra Swan, White-Naped Crane, Siberian Crane, Red-Crowned Crane, Lesser White-Fronted Goose, Baikal Teal, Baer’s Pochard, Harlequin Duck, Scaly-Sided Merganser, Mandarin Duck. ~4,000 square meters, most birds breeding, separation areas for swans and two crane species during the breeding season if necessary.

Three big crane species would fight, so they should be separated.

Coscoroba Swan, Rosy-Billed Pochard, Red-Breasted Cardinal, Hyacinth Macaw, Greater Rhea, Southern Screamer, Monk Parakeet, Green-Cheeked Parakeet, Nanday Parakeet, Nutria, Southern Three-Banded Armadillo. 2,500 square meter flooded savannah aviary. Most birds breeding, mammals probably not.

Hyacinth Macaws would bully and attack the cardinals.

1) Cinereous Vulture and Egyptian Vulture, 600 square meters, breeding

Should work

2) Fallow Deer, Red Deer, European Mouflon, 10,000 square meters, red deer and mouflon breeding

Should work

 

[MOG2012]

What species from the Minshan Mountains can be housed with each of these animals?;

• Chinese Goral Naemorhedus griseus
• Chinese Red Panda Ailurus styani
• Giant Panda Ailuropoda melanoleuca
• Golden Snub-nosed Monkey Rhinopithecus roxellana roxellana
• Reeves's Muntjac Muntiacus reevesi
• Sichuan Takin Budorcas tibetana tibetana
• Snow Leopard Panthera uncia
• Tufted Deer Elaphodus cephalophus

 

[Paul.Haerle]

Tufted Deer Elaphodus cephalophus

Aviary with Black-necked Crane, Red-billed Blue-Magpie, Bar-headed Goose, Brown-eared Pheasant…

• Chinese Goral Naemorhedus griseus

• Chinese Red Panda Ailurus styani

Both could be housed together

• Reeves's Muntjac Muntiacus reevesi

• Sichuan Takin Budorcas tibetana tibetana

Same goes for them