langurs in australia

kelvin

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do australian zoos have any intentions of bringing in more langur species, eg. douc, javan etc. Very pretty species, albeit difficult to manage and extremely sensitive and stress prone in all respects.

and also, does anyone know where the picture of the lion on the top of this forum page was taken?
 
and also, does anyone know where the picture of the lion on the top of this forum page was taken?

Yup - I most certainly do :)

It was taken at Monarto Zoo on the 30th December 2003, at just after 3pm in the afternoon using a Canon PowerShot S50 digital camera while sitting in the tour bus that drives through the enclosure :D
 
the region is phasing out all langur species with the exception of the Fracois Species so that they can be managed at a more viable level.
The only potential hurdle which needs to be overcome is the sourcing of unrelated new animals, as Taronga's langur are of a sub-species not at all common in zoos. Only a handful of animals are scattered across zoos in Europe, mainly England, and perhaps one or two in the US or Asia. Clearly this could present some problems if the it was decided to focus on this sub-species long-term or replace/or interbreed it with the commoner sub-species once experience is gained.
 
thats right glyn. melbourne and adelaide are both planning on switching to francois' langurs when available, and phasing out their langurs (javan & dusky's) in favour of this rarer species. that naturally could take awhile since primates are long-lived animals and adelaide are continueing to breed their dusky's for the time being...

its interesting about the subspecies glyn. where did you hear that? i looked up them on isis - and they sydney animals are (as are the japanese) listed as non-supbsecies specific. there are very few listed as such and all others in zoos are of the nominate subspecies. however - there may very well be quite a few non-isis listed chinese zoos with francois and taronga has a very large breeding population of koalas...;)
 
So Francois' langur is the "hot" new monkey species in Australian zoos, and others are being swept aside to accommodate it.

Twenty years ago the "hot" species was De Brazza's guenon, and we all know where that's headed!
 
Twenty years ago the "hot" species was De Brazza's guenon, and we all know where that's headed!

And so zoos continue to evolve, and change their regional and institutional collection plans, regularly updating them to reflect current local or global needs to focus on different species as their viability in captivity or the wild changes.... It's terrible isn't it? Surely zoos can just make a collection plan, and then stick to it rigidly? Why do they have to keep changing their damned plans? :rolleyes:
 
Point taken, ZooPro.
As you know, I'm just a grump who doesn't want to see anything disappear from our zoos.
 
well this ones interesting. whilst i don't necessarily disagree with the choice the australian zoos have made, i would be interested in knowing why they chose it.

if we were actually basing our descisions factoring in endangered status and rarity in captivity, we probably all should have switched to purple-faced langurs (perth zoo). there are very few in major zoos and they are listed as endangered by the IUCN..

javan langurs (melbourne zoo) are also listed as endangered by the IUCN. but they number around 200 in zoos - just over twice that of the francois langur (though my numbers are based on isis figures which does not include breeding centres such as the EPRC) which is actually listed as only VU by the IUCN (though i wonder how up to date this is...)

duskys are rare in captivity outside of small zoos. no doubt a reflection of their LR stutus..

sri lankas purple-faced langurs are outside of southeast asia, as region prioritised by australian zoos. this may have been a contibuting factor in not chosing them. duskys are fairing better in the wild than other species. so i can understand the choice there also.

but when it comes to francois' vs javan. i wonder what took priority? was it that the javans more endangered status was offset by the fact that they are more numerous in captivity? (though still hardly common). was it just that there was bit more personal interest in the francois in zoo circles? certainly i'm sure more a couple of primate keepers have been to the EPRC...

in any event i'm quite fond of francois' langurs...:)
 
i think it might have been that they are...

threatened

that the world zoo population needs to increase-Australia can play a key role

that there are animals available in zoos to kickstart the australasian program-something not working in favour of the purple-faced langur
 
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