Monkey World Ape Rescue Centre Monkey World Ape Rescue Centre 2009 #1
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Might be worth it but until any specific plans are made you're not likely to get any firm answer on what may be a delicate/ political issue.
taun
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Gigit
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Why have I got visions of being shown the exit if you asked that question??
Should I sacrifice myself for Zoochat?
I'm willing to ask but, as Pertinax suggests, may not get the answer we want.Should I sacrifice myself for Zoochat?
Just don't turn up with your Deerstalker and Cape, its too obvious...
Gigit
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Well, I asked the question and I wasn't thrown out. I was told that, as part of the EEP, they will exchange orangs with other zoos, probably when they have more males or when Kai is older. They haven't made any decisions yet. The keeper agreed that they have some very valuable genes there.
A new orang nursery building is well under way so that they can take in more babies in their role as European Nursery. It's adjacent to the babies' outdoor enclosure.
Tuan, Amy, RoRo and Lucky were outside today. Gordon was playing indoors with Kai.
A new orang nursery building is well under way so that they can take in more babies in their role as European Nursery. It's adjacent to the babies' outdoor enclosure.
Tuan, Amy, RoRo and Lucky were outside today. Gordon was playing indoors with Kai.
Gigit
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On the way home I thought someone might ask me that! It wasn't mentioned during the talk, except that RoRo and Amy are on the pill. I didn't think to ask, I'm afraid. Tuan was very interested in either RoRo or Lucky (I can recognise Amy but am not so sure about the others).
Gigit
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I don't want to put words into the keeper's mouth - he said that RoRo is on the pill but didn't say anything about Amy and Lucky. I think we all know from watching Monkey Life that no more pregnancies are planned for Amy (and the last one wasn't).
As you know, if Monkey World is busy, as it was yesterday, it's quite hard to ask detailed questions at the Orangutan Talk session - and the keeper has a set speech and isn't prepared for them.
As you know, if Monkey World is busy, as it was yesterday, it's quite hard to ask detailed questions at the Orangutan Talk session - and the keeper has a set speech and isn't prepared for them.
Gigit
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Thinking 'aloud' here: if MW is reluctant to part with its orangs, how feasible would it be for, let's say, Gambira from Paignton to visit Tuan or Gordon for a couple of months and then return to Paignton, hopefully in a pregnant state? I guess there'd have to be a honeymoon suite and the guest probably wouldn't be able to mix with the other females (not enough time for integration). And it would be unsettling for the female having to travel and get used to a new temporary home........ just a thought.
I read somewhere that some of the oldest stump-tails had died. Not sure if that's true or not, but they did look very old in the last series of Monkey Life.
There were many such 'breeding loans' of Orangutans(and some Gorillas too) in the Uk during the 1970-90's period but they seem far less frequent now. Several of the Orangs born at Blackpool, Chester and Twycross in the past result from loans & transfers of females between them and particularly with London and even Jersey. Some examples; Twycross to Jersey(Kupo & Kibriah) Twycross to Chester (Kibriah) Blackpool to London(?)(Azimat) London to Dudley(Kate). Most of them were for longer than a couple of months though.
Its a good idea if MW have, (or could arrange) the facilities to keep the 'honeymoon' pair seperate. Its definately worth a shot and success rates do seem pretty high, obviously not guaranteed though.
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If the breeding trips were fairly short they might not be so unsettling. Coming from Paignton, I understand there'd be no guarantee of success Coming from Paignton, I understand there'd be no guarantee of success
Also I think it would be better to send a 'proven' breeding female though apart from Mali, Paignton can't do that yet. Something for the future perhaps.
They have two groups one down the bottom by the capuchins and then another off-show which includes koko who appeared on monkey business. I'm not sure why they are off-show.
Koko and also Roland died at the end of last year.
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there are only eight stump tailed macaques now. they all live down by the siamang gibbons in the old capuchin house.
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