Terra Firma
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My grandfather was a bird dealer; to make money at the expense of our native fauna or any bird for that matter is a sad reminder of mans foolish mentality.
Aviculturalists?.....
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In a way I don't have a problem with making money, after allthat is how our society functions. However when making short term big bucks comes at the expense of the long term viability of the issue then that is when I disagree.
The problem is that the long term viability of bird species held here is severly comprimised by the promise of big bucks. The avicultaral world is shooting itself in the foot because there will come a time veryt soon when there are no longer any birds to send overseas.
The problem is that the long term viability of bird species held here is severly comprimised by the promise of big bucks. The avicultaral world is shooting itself in the foot because there will come a time veryt soon when there are no longer any birds to send overseas.
as the great keanu reeves once said - "whoa"
thanks terra firma. these enlightening words have made me decide to become a buddhist. because buddhists are peaceful and don't make money and don't eat meat. actually yes they do - scratch that. maybe i'll just go to india and join an ashram - oh but wait, india has nuclear weapons and stuff, so they too are foolish. what if i just stay at home, but don't eat or consume ANYTHING EVER AGAIN! that way i don't touch anything that indirectly will cause me or anyone else to profit off any animal of any kind. actually i don't think i'd be able to survive on air. and i'd be REALLY bored. how can i not be but another of man's foolish minions then?
what if i became a woman?
Then you would think you were right all the time. Even when the evidence conclusively stated otherwise.
Hix
Jesse
Well-Known Member
i myself have a collection of mostly australian birds........
-budgies
-lovebirds
-galahs
-lorikeets
-quail
soon to come, rosellas
i was so suprised to come across a classifieds website that had the following birds for sale.
-hyacinth macaws $700
-blue and gold macaws $0
-scarlet macaws $200
-african greys $0
let me remind you that this is an AUSSIE website. i have provided a link to prove im not pulling your leg. along with the abundance of birds there are capuchin monkeys and other exotics for sale. at one stage i noticed a tree kangaroo for sale.
Macaw
if you look in the right places you'll see many people own exotic birds and mammals. the owner of a local pet shop in my town brings his macaw to the shop daily and lets it wander the hallways. the owner happens to be an animal trainer for movies. some of his animals have been shown with steve irwin on the logies, in the film ghost rider and in the film australia. he has macaques, camels, and a variety of exotic birds and reptiles. when the pet shop first opened he brought the macaque into the store but within the first week of operation he was told he wasn't allowed to.
-budgies
-lovebirds
-galahs
-lorikeets
-quail
soon to come, rosellas
i was so suprised to come across a classifieds website that had the following birds for sale.
-hyacinth macaws $700
-blue and gold macaws $0
-scarlet macaws $200
-african greys $0
let me remind you that this is an AUSSIE website. i have provided a link to prove im not pulling your leg. along with the abundance of birds there are capuchin monkeys and other exotics for sale. at one stage i noticed a tree kangaroo for sale.
Macaw
if you look in the right places you'll see many people own exotic birds and mammals. the owner of a local pet shop in my town brings his macaw to the shop daily and lets it wander the hallways. the owner happens to be an animal trainer for movies. some of his animals have been shown with steve irwin on the logies, in the film ghost rider and in the film australia. he has macaques, camels, and a variety of exotic birds and reptiles. when the pet shop first opened he brought the macaque into the store but within the first week of operation he was told he wasn't allowed to.
jesse the ads are a scam - of course they have no tree kangaroos or capuchins or even macaws for that matter. you send the $$ - they send you nothing.
although since they are so dumb that they advertise the macaws and african greys are free - it's worth a shot!!
Jesse
Well-Known Member
a genuine macaw for sale will fetch up to $10,000 and i don't think i'm prepared to pay that kind of money. maybe i'll try my luck with the freebies.
another even bigger scam and a crying shame if true......
Buy a Tiger Online! Buy Tigers at the most original pet store ever!
the tigers sold here are shipped to customers all over the world and are claimed to be harmless. if it's so easy for private individuals to ship animals worldwide then why can't zoological institutions. (don't hate me for saying it)
What!!!
It's a scam? I wish I knew that before I gave them my credit card details.
I was going to be the first kid on my block to own a unicorn. I was going to use the money I am going to get from some banker from Nigeria. All I have to do is send him my bank account details so he can deposit some money for a while and then he is going to give me a percentage of that money.
It's a scam? I wish I knew that before I gave them my credit card details.
I was going to be the first kid on my block to own a unicorn. I was going to use the money I am going to get from some banker from Nigeria. All I have to do is send him my bank account details so he can deposit some money for a while and then he is going to give me a percentage of that money.
Kicking an old thread back to life here:-
I just read a magazine article on a large private parrot collection in eastern Europe containing many rare and valuable species, most of them not available here in Australia; and the owner's pride and joy? A pair of Australian galahs!!!!
I just read a magazine article on a large private parrot collection in eastern Europe containing many rare and valuable species, most of them not available here in Australia; and the owner's pride and joy? A pair of Australian galahs!!!!
Jesse
Well-Known Member
Kicking an old thread back to life here:-
I just read a magazine article on a large private parrot collection in eastern Europe containing many rare and valuable species, most of them not available here in Australia; and the owner's pride and joy? A pair of Australian galahs!!!!
i am curious to know what they sell for over there. where i work we sell them for 400$ hand reared. $200 onwards depending on the temperament.
ara, do you know where i can read that article?
Galah's will do between 1500 and 1800 euro a couple. In case of mutations this price goes up. In general the galah is considered the easiest and most available cockatoo. It's also not considered to be rare or special.
My guess for the collection where the galah's are the pride of the owners:
it's or a special mutation, the owner is a big fan of Galah's or the collection is not that special (from an European view).
My guess for the collection where the galah's are the pride of the owners:
it's or a special mutation, the owner is a big fan of Galah's or the collection is not that special (from an European view).
ZYBen
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In many states of Australia the keeping of softbills is very restricted.In the others Many species of Chats, Wrens are kept, aswell as a few honeyeaters, Plovers, Kookaburra, Tawny frogmouth, Woodswallows. And thats just the species I've had.
I know of large private softbill collections with everything from Rarer Rails and Bowerbirds (and Catbirds) to Penguins and Pelicans!
I know of large private softbill collections with everything from Rarer Rails and Bowerbirds (and Catbirds) to Penguins and Pelicans!
Wow, unfortunately not many Australian softbills here: just Kookaburra's
and tawny frogmouths, none of the smaller ones except an occasional Australian Magpie.
How is the breeding going with wrens and bowerbirds. Considering the wrens I get the idea that you guys keep them like we keep our native tits.
and tawny frogmouths, none of the smaller ones except an occasional Australian Magpie.
How is the breeding going with wrens and bowerbirds. Considering the wrens I get the idea that you guys keep them like we keep our native tits.
ZYBen
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I kept my wrens in square planted aviaries, lots of little hidey holes for them.
Because we have such a small range of exotics we make do with the natives.
just off hand, theres: Pekin Robins, Magpie Robins, a Couple of cardinals left (yes a couple) but nothing exciting like Tanagers, Hornbills and Toucan!
I am having a terrible time remembering the rest of the exotic softbills, i'm sure someone will help me out.
Because we have such a small range of exotics we make do with the natives.
just off hand, theres: Pekin Robins, Magpie Robins, a Couple of cardinals left (yes a couple) but nothing exciting like Tanagers, Hornbills and Toucan!
I am having a terrible time remembering the rest of the exotic softbills, i'm sure someone will help me out.
ZYBen
Well-Known Member
You would have to make sure you moved to a state were you can keep all the cool things, every state has different laws regarding them. The range here in QLD is quite limited, not even Kookaburras allowed. South Australia has great laws! you can keep anything! once you are appropriattley permitted
actually ben we do have a tanager species! only most aviculturalists who keep them wouldn't even realise it. take a close look at the so-called "red crested finch".
off my head for exotics we have:
pekin robin
silver eared mesia
oriental magpie robin
red crested finch (tanager)
as well as introduced species such as:
red-whiskered bulbul
eurasian starling
indian minah
eurasian skylark