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Currently (with some collections missed off, I'm sure):
Gaur: Whipsnade
Banteng: West Mids
Lowland Anoa: Chester, London, West Mids, Marwell, Port Lympne (any others?)
'Asian' Water Buffalo (whether domestic or wild is debatable): Port Lympne, West Mids (Longleat?)
Cape Buffalo: Knowsley, West Mids
Congo Buffalo: Chester, Knowsley, Woburn
American Bison: Woburn, Whipsnade, Noah's, Blair Drummond (I'm sure there's more)
European Bison: Whipsnade, Howletts, Port Lympne, Highland
In terms of wild taxa, the only taxa present in Europe but NOT the UK are the Mountain Anoa (Bubalus quarlesi) and the disputed subspecies, Wood Bison (Bison bison athabascae).
The UK also has various breeds of domestic cattle - in addition to good old Bos taurus in many forms there are also Heck cattle, yak, water buffalo and zebu (but not to my knowledge Gayal, which can be found on the continent).
Gaur: Whipsnade
Banteng: West Mids
Lowland Anoa: Chester, London, West Mids, Marwell, Port Lympne (any others?)
'Asian' Water Buffalo (whether domestic or wild is debatable): Port Lympne, West Mids (Longleat?)
Cape Buffalo: Knowsley, West Mids
Congo Buffalo: Chester, Knowsley, Woburn
American Bison: Woburn, Whipsnade, Noah's, Blair Drummond (I'm sure there's more)
European Bison: Whipsnade, Howletts, Port Lympne, Highland
In terms of wild taxa, the only taxa present in Europe but NOT the UK are the Mountain Anoa (Bubalus quarlesi) and the disputed subspecies, Wood Bison (Bison bison athabascae).
The UK also has various breeds of domestic cattle - in addition to good old Bos taurus in many forms there are also Heck cattle, yak, water buffalo and zebu (but not to my knowledge Gayal, which can be found on the continent).
lechweoryx
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Knowsley has a huge herd of American Bison. About 50 I think!!!!!!
In terms of Yak, whipsnade have 2:12, WMSP have 0:7, Highland have 4:0 also Trotters world of animals has a few aswell.
In terms of Yak, whipsnade have 2:12, WMSP have 0:7, Highland have 4:0 also Trotters world of animals has a few aswell.
.... also Paignton.
johnstoni
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Gaur: Is there just the young male at Whipsnade now?
Banteng: As well as West Mids, I think Port Lympne may still have 1.1?
There are several farms holding water buffalo, imported since the few animals displayed in zoos. Apart from Port Lympne and Longleat, West midlands and Africa Alive hold water buffalo, which are much lighter in colour and with longer horns than most of the herds now commerically farmed in this country. However, I only know of the dwindling Port Lympne herd being labelled as 'Assamese/wild-type'.
American Bison are at Trotters, plus a number of farms, some of which are open to the public. As with the water buffalo, I think these two species are at higher numbers than ever before in the UK, due to commerical farming ventures and the farm diversification scheme.
I wish we were able to see Kouprey.
Banteng: As well as West Mids, I think Port Lympne may still have 1.1?
There are several farms holding water buffalo, imported since the few animals displayed in zoos. Apart from Port Lympne and Longleat, West midlands and Africa Alive hold water buffalo, which are much lighter in colour and with longer horns than most of the herds now commerically farmed in this country. However, I only know of the dwindling Port Lympne herd being labelled as 'Assamese/wild-type'.
American Bison are at Trotters, plus a number of farms, some of which are open to the public. As with the water buffalo, I think these two species are at higher numbers than ever before in the UK, due to commerical farming ventures and the farm diversification scheme.
I wish we were able to see Kouprey.
The paddock was distinctly empty and lacking in labels when I was there in November, but I don't know for sure.
The West Mids animals are derived from the Port Lympne herd (they took a number of species from PL a while back - their Sambar and Barasingha also came from there).
You and me both!
johnstoni
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Elsewhere on this forum there are reports that a gaur died in September/October last year, and subsequent reports are of people seeing a single animal. ISIS list 1.0 now.
There is a strong possibility that there are a few Gayal left in a private collection in Buckinghamshire, I would love to have this confirmed. Although a domestic breed, I would like to see Gayal at some point.
lechweoryx
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I do too! BUt very unlikley in the future as they are classed as critcally endangered, probably extinct as none have been sighted for a long time.
A Whipsnade keeper told me in September that the Highland Cattle would be returning to the farmer who loaned them for the summer.
No love for the Tamaraw? I know he's only ickle!
I thought Kouprey had been decried by some experts as merely Banteng/Domestic Cattle hybrids?
It used to be that some called the enclosed white cattle breeds like the Chillinghams, effectively wild and direct Aurochs descendants.
The Heck cattle were a good attempt at rebreeding the Aurochs characteristics, but they never reached the massive proportions of the wild cattle.
I thought Kouprey had been decried by some experts as merely Banteng/Domestic Cattle hybrids?
It used to be that some called the enclosed white cattle breeds like the Chillinghams, effectively wild and direct Aurochs descendants.
The Heck cattle were a good attempt at rebreeding the Aurochs characteristics, but they never reached the massive proportions of the wild cattle.
I think its an ongoing debate which has never been decided as to whether the Kouprey is a genuine species or not.
Re Wild Park Cattle- I think the Chillinghams are the only UK herd that is still extant in its original form and can claim pure ancestry going back many hundreds of years.
The other four UK herds were more recent and at least of partially domsticated origin. I believe all are virtually non-existent now, but the remainder of one herd (Vaynol or Cadzow?) live in a park owned by Leeds City Council.
The other four UK herds were more recent and at least of partially domsticated origin. I believe all are virtually non-existent now, but the remainder of one herd (Vaynol or Cadzow?) live in a park owned by Leeds City Council.[/QUOTE]
At the National Trust owned property Dynevor Park , not far from here , there is a herd of White Park Cattle in the Deer Park . The long-established herd that the Lords Dynevor had kept in the Park for many generations was dispersed when the property was first sold , the herd there now is of more recent establishment . I do not know if the National Trust managed to obtain any animals derived from the original herd when the new one was started .
At the National Trust owned property Dynevor Park , not far from here , there is a herd of White Park Cattle in the Deer Park . The long-established herd that the Lords Dynevor had kept in the Park for many generations was dispersed when the property was first sold , the herd there now is of more recent establishment . I do not know if the National Trust managed to obtain any animals derived from the original herd when the new one was started .
There are quite a few herds of white park cattle in private hands. Some of the descendents of the Chartley herd were kept at Whipsnade until the late 1960s or early 70s - that line is now kept at the Cotswold Farm Park in association with the Rare Breeds Survival Trust, which rates them as a minority breed.
The RBST lists the Chillingham cattle separately as critically endangered as there are only two herds. Incidentally I recommend a visit to Chillingham to anyone who would enjoy a moderately stiff walk in beautiful countryside, with the possibility of viewing some unique animals.
Alan
The RBST lists the Chillingham cattle separately as critically endangered as there are only two herds. Incidentally I recommend a visit to Chillingham to anyone who would enjoy a moderately stiff walk in beautiful countryside, with the possibility of viewing some unique animals.
Alan